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Getting Into Dota 2 From League of Legends?

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xSpEcTrEx
Profile Joined August 2012
United Kingdom4 Posts
December 07 2013 13:32 GMT
#1
Hi,

So I have been playing League of Legends and specifically ADC for a couple of years now and I was interested in starting to get into Dota 2 more competitively. However I simply cannot understand how lanes work and the various positions work, especially the 1-5 system. I know that in League of Legends you commonly have an ADC and a Support bottom lane but I was wondering what exactly the support does in Dota 2? Does he go bottom lane like in League of Legends or does he go mid? Also who exactly goes into the jungle. Other than that I understand mechanics I just really am clueless on the meta of Dota and anyone that can explain to me who goes in what lane and what champions are suited for what positions would be much loved by me xD!


Thanks a lot for your time

Rob :D
Jinxed
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States6450 Posts
December 07 2013 13:39 GMT
#2
Staboteur a while ago did probably the best guide with regards to League players coming over to Dota 2.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=423453

It pretty much covers all of the basic differences and is pretty comprehensive
LiquidDota Staff"LeLoup is a great name pls undo." -Liquid`Nazgul
MadeOfCotton
Profile Joined September 2011
Germany28 Posts
December 07 2013 13:59 GMT
#3
Most importantly, dont tell anyone you come from League of Legends; and dont call them champions, but heroes

On a more serious note: Considering the roles, these give a a nice overview:

http://wiki.teamliquid.net/dota2/Hero_Roles
http://dota2.gamepedia.com/Roles

The classic laning is the 3-1-1 laning, where a carry + 2 supports for a defensive trilane, i.e. go to the safelane (bot for radiant, top for dire), one goes mid and one offlane. The supports mostly secure farm for the carry, i.e. protect him from the enemy and harass the enemy out of the lane. They should not take any last hits on enemy creeps, but rather focus on denies. If they are not needed on the lane, they can pull creeps or go gank other lanes.

However, with the 6.79 patch, much more options are viable now. this includes sending one support jungling, or having the supports constantly roaming (ganking), or running dual lanes. i.e. having top and bottom lane 2 heroes each. Running two heroes mid happens only very rarely.

Hope that helps, and have fun playing dota
Jetaap
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France4814 Posts
December 07 2013 15:05 GMT
#4
Welcome to dota! There are quite a lot of ressources for league player getting into dota, but I think the most important thing is to keep an open mind. A lot of things are possilble and before trying to mimick what pros are doing try to get a feel for things by yourself. I would strongly advice you to find people to stack with at the start because otherwise it might be a bit frustrating considering you already have experience in the genra.
SpiZe
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada3640 Posts
December 07 2013 15:33 GMT
#5
You have to understand that there is a difference in how laning works in pubs vs competitive. Since in pubs you often don't have a normal lineup, it's more common to have two safe lane, 1 mid, 1 offlane. (2-1-2) About Lanes. In competitive play, the most usual lane setup is three safelane, one mid, one offlane. (3-1-1). This is called a Trilane. The way it works is that you have your main carry farming there, with the help of two supports. You have two supports since that way, you make sure your carry has free farm since one of your supports can harass the ennemy out of the lane, while your other support can either assist with the zoning, or can farm the jungle if he is not needed. Now not many heroes can actually farm the jungle efficiently in Dota, so often this guy will just slowly clear some camps, while stacking others. So here you have your trilane.

The mid hero is usually a hero that becomes way stronger with levels, and just need a couple of items to become very very strong. Usually, they are heroes that are very strong in the mid game. Pretty similar to LoL. Only difference is the bottle , and the interaction between the bottle and runes. If you cannot get any runes, you need to bottle crow (send your courier back to base with your empty bottle on it to refill it, however the courier is slower if it has an empty bottle on it so use wisely).

Finally the offlane is a hero that, either a) has a way to get some last hits from a safe distance, like Dark Seer or b) tanky and/or has a good escape mechanism. The offlaner is meant to get as much as he can (xp, gold) from his lane, without dying as he is 1v3. Often, you also want in your offlane someone that has the capacity to jungle because he will often not be able to get much xp vs 3 person.

So that's pretty much the classic laning in competitive dota, I'll probably edit this with answers to your other question, but I'm hungry right now so. But yeah, there are very good guides out there, you should read out Saboteur's, and maybe come back here if you have mroe specific question
xSpEcTrEx
Profile Joined August 2012
United Kingdom4 Posts
December 07 2013 16:11 GMT
#6
Thanks SO MUCH for all the help all the information is much appreciated. Thanks a ton guys
BAFz0r
Profile Joined July 2010
Denmark92 Posts
December 07 2013 17:21 GMT
#7
Here, only guide you will ever need

http://www.purgegamers.com/welcome-to-dota-you-suck#.UqNY1-Lva9g
Taking 1 game at a time
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
December 07 2013 17:52 GMT
#8
Aside from the Purge videos which are excellent, don't hestitate to ask questions in http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=255901, we will answer them as best we can .
WriterXiao8~~
SKC
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil18828 Posts
December 07 2013 17:56 GMT
#9
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=317167
This also looks relevant
MotherOfRunes
Profile Joined December 2010
Germany2862 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-07 18:18:33
December 07 2013 18:15 GMT
#10
the problem is that it will take you a very long time until you will be in shape for a competetive enviroment. its unfortunately much harder since in lol the laning meta is in 99% the same which means that even down to unranked games even the worst players have an idea about what to pick more or less. top mid jungle adc+support on bot

and it will take a while until you become good and get matched with players that are good enough to at least pick kinda competetivly. in dota those pubs arent as serious as lol ranked games. even in games with very good people you will face a lot of uncommon picks/laning or even really bad ones because there are a lot of people who dont care and pick what they want anyway.in low skilled games you will find 90% of the time pure chaos.you really shouldnt care about competetive at this point. just get the basics and a TON of expereience. but yeah watching competetive games will at least give you a direction were you should be heading. since in dota its far more important to know every hero and its strengths, compared to lol where heroes arent really hard to figure and are kinda repeating theirselves just with tiny changes to skills or skill sets(the old aoe farmskill, gapcloser, and spell a increases spell b=new hero done-stereotype). so dont try to focus to hard on one role. play them all 1by1.
gl hf
"Your Razor sucks!" -Kuroky's Dad
Gimpb
Profile Joined August 2010
293 Posts
December 07 2013 19:19 GMT
#11
One other thing worth noting is that things tend to be pretty flexible, people change lanes and support movement is a huge part of the early game. This can work because mids and supports are constantly off checking runes or trying to squeeze farm out of the jungle as much as possible. This makes it a little less obvious when people are really missing and coming for a gank. Night also makes it hard.

Also be ready for more in the way of aggressive and strange stuff at very low levels. It is possible to push and tower dive very early because the towers are weaker and certain lvl 1 abilities are much stronger than what you find in lol. These things can cause games to get totally out of control before lvl 3.

Hope that helps!
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