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Pandahats
Profile Joined August 2010
United Kingdom13 Posts
February 25 2011 16:59 GMT
#201
I'm a sad panda
Mioraka
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada1353 Posts
February 25 2011 17:01 GMT
#202
On February 25 2011 22:05 aupstar wrote:
Why should Samsung pay blizzard to advertise their games?

Sounds a bit ridiculous to me...


Because that's how the law and the real world works.

You know why Apple has to pay to use a singer's song in their Ipod advertisment? Or why the tv commercials rarely put any products with a name other than their own?

the same reason why kespa and samsung needs to pay blizzard.

"But they are advertising your song in their advertisment too!" is an argument that was never accepted by law or by any means.
whoso
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany523 Posts
February 25 2011 17:03 GMT
#203
On February 26 2011 01:52 mierin wrote:
Well, congratulations ActiBlizz. WCG is as good as dead w/o WC3 and SC:BW


so you're acting like its blizzards fault that they get excluded from wcg. why so smart?
wiesel
Profile Joined September 2008
Germany727 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-25 17:09:57
February 25 2011 17:03 GMT
#204
understandable still sad for wcg, samsung > blizzard
When big companies fight , usually the fans are the losers.
Gorlin
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2753 Posts
February 25 2011 17:05 GMT
#205
Damn I hate corporations, both sides of the arguments are not looking out for the players.
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
February 25 2011 17:05 GMT
#206
They're leaving them out because of the ongoing lawsuit. It's a trickle down effect more than anything else. It's about covering your own ass. They don't really have choice until the lawsuit is resolved.
NIIINO
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Slovakia1320 Posts
February 25 2011 17:15 GMT
#207
Lets play CoD on WCG yey ! :D
WCG is the only big tournament for WC3 and not just for it but for every single Blizzards game, they are acting like kids. every one wants money money and money WTF is going on ? I know that this problem is complicating but this is wrong !
SaltTheWound
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany72 Posts
February 25 2011 17:15 GMT
#208
Thats just stupid..
Like 2008 in Germany there were so many asians just to watch Starcraft anf warcraft.. Imagine without those vierwers...

Only CS 1.6 and some other crappy games or what ?

Vote for sc2 and wc3!
ZasZ.
Profile Joined May 2010
United States2911 Posts
February 25 2011 17:19 GMT
#209
Wow what a terrible decision by Samsung. It doesn't matter if Blizzard is in the right or not, not including BW/WC3/SC2 will kill the event completely.

Retarded.
Kuri
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Canada88 Posts
February 25 2011 17:22 GMT
#210
I'm thoroughly confused. How many parties are involved in this? I'm sure it's not quite as simple as Samsung vs Blizzard.
mierin
Profile Joined August 2010
United States4943 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-25 17:23:45
February 25 2011 17:23 GMT
#211
On February 26 2011 02:03 whoso wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 26 2011 01:52 mierin wrote:
Well, congratulations ActiBlizz. WCG is as good as dead w/o WC3 and SC:BW


so you're acting like its blizzards fault that they get excluded from wcg. why so smart?


You're right, that was kind of a knee-jerk reaction on my part. I'm much more pissed off at the possible dissolution of proleague than the absence of Blizz games in WCG, so I suppose I'm biased.
JD, Stork, Calm, Hyuk Fighting!
Herculix
Profile Joined May 2010
United States946 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-25 17:26:16
February 25 2011 17:24 GMT
#212
this is such a retarded move by samsung on the surface. i mean, i completely understand it, it's outwardly motivated by the lawsuit, but at the same time, they can't really expect WCG to meet their demands and still function. they have to have some intention by doing this, like, they don't want to sponsor WCG anymore and by doing this they destroy the event, or maybe they just don't care about WCG if it means relying on blizzard games. it's hard for me to believe they could have actually thought this out well and did this intending for WCG to survive at all. WCG has other games, but it loses so much here.

on top of that, it's not something that hurts only blizzard or hurts blizzard more than themselves or WCG. i doubt blizzard could give a crap about WCG right now, they've given up on WC3 and the lawsuit over BW is their only current interest in it, meanwhile they've got a starleague in korea with one in the US popping up while MLG is about to go international with starcraft 2 as one of the flagship games, with leagues in europe too. they have things covered world-wide whether WCG uses their games or not. i'm sure blizzard appreciates the free advertisement, but i highly doubt they invest into it the same way samsung does.

from WCG's standpoint, it seems impossible to have the event without these games and expect to survive, so even though they might have issues paying for an event the magnitude they're used to, i really do think it's in their best interest to find new sponsors. there are people with money everywhere, but there aren't games with competitive notoriety everywhere. it's a lose-lose situation for them though.
Torpedo.Vegas
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States1890 Posts
February 25 2011 17:24 GMT
#213
I don't know how you can argue that Samsung is in anyway a victim here. Kespa built a business around throttling esports to other organizations who were using a game not directly supported by the work of Kespa, but by the updates from Blizzard and community free ware. Samsung (who apparently is tied to Kespa) brought this on themselves. I am all for hating on Acti-Blizzard when they drop the ball, but this is squarely a problem Kespa didn't think about when they took on the legal battle.
Kinky
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States4126 Posts
February 25 2011 17:26 GMT
#214
The prospect of the first SC2 WCG interests me greatly, so I really hope they solve this drama :/
darmousseh
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3437 Posts
February 25 2011 17:40 GMT
#215
Lol, samsung is being played.

The reason is because samsung needs to ask permission from blizzard to broadcast the games, but if they do that, then essentially they are telling blizzard "Yes you own the rights" and OGN is suddenly in a terrible position in their lawsuit.

1. Samsung asks for permission to broadcast blizzard games. Blizzard says ok with fee, OGN loses lawsuit. OGN sues kespa, KESPA loses hundreds of thousands.

2. Samsung doesn't ask for permission. Blizzard sues samsung in US court. Blizzard wins millions.

3. Samsung doesn't show blizzard games. WCG terrible event, no one watches.


#3 is actually the most profitable in the sense that samsung wastes less money than #1 or #2.
Developer for http://mtgfiddle.com
Milkis
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
5003 Posts
February 25 2011 17:43 GMT
#216
On February 26 2011 02:40 darmousseh wrote:
Lol, samsung is being played.

The reason is because samsung needs to ask permission from blizzard to broadcast the games, but if they do that, then essentially they are telling blizzard "Yes you own the rights" and OGN is suddenly in a terrible position in their lawsuit.

1. Samsung asks for permission to broadcast blizzard games. Blizzard says ok with fee, OGN loses lawsuit. OGN sues kespa, KESPA loses hundreds of thousands.

2. Samsung doesn't ask for permission. Blizzard sues samsung in US court. Blizzard wins millions.

3. Samsung doesn't show blizzard games. WCG terrible event, no one watches.


#3 is actually the most profitable in the sense that samsung wastes less money than #1 or #2.


samsung has nothing to do with broadcasting.
FlashIsHigh
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States474 Posts
February 25 2011 17:44 GMT
#217
Wow this shit is getting retarded, no Blizzard WCG games is gunna be pretty awful especially since SC2 is slowly becoming the most competitive esport game out there.
KT Flash// WhiteRa/Scarlett/Naniwa/MC/Huk/Nony
BamBam
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
745 Posts
February 25 2011 17:47 GMT
#218
Honestly, I dont see why samsung is in the wrong here. There is absolutely no reason WCG should not be able to promote blizzard games on their own... Except for the massive fees blizzard likes to impose on all its corporate users. If Blizzard wasent fighting religiously as they are with their "IP" rights, I'm sure samung would allow the promotion of Blizzard games. But the fact is, blizzard is just looking for the cash. If anything, this stems from blizzards own problem. Do you ever see the developers of Counter-strike going after major corporations for fees and claiming IP rights? Or how about value? Or the creators of the Super Smash series.

Its companies trying to go after more cash beyond the sale of the game that really screw any development of the game.
"two is way better than twice as one" - artosis
darmousseh
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3437 Posts
February 25 2011 17:48 GMT
#219
On February 26 2011 02:43 Milkis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 26 2011 02:40 darmousseh wrote:
Lol, samsung is being played.

The reason is because samsung needs to ask permission from blizzard to broadcast the games, but if they do that, then essentially they are telling blizzard "Yes you own the rights" and OGN is suddenly in a terrible position in their lawsuit.

1. Samsung asks for permission to broadcast blizzard games. Blizzard says ok with fee, OGN loses lawsuit. OGN sues kespa, KESPA loses hundreds of thousands.

2. Samsung doesn't ask for permission. Blizzard sues samsung in US court. Blizzard wins millions.

3. Samsung doesn't show blizzard games. WCG terrible event, no one watches.


#3 is actually the most profitable in the sense that samsung wastes less money than #1 or #2.


samsung has nothing to do with broadcasting.



No, samsung doesn't have anything to do with broadcasting, but their main broadcasting source is OGN. I imagine they would want to broadcast wcg in korea with OGN. That is the problem.
Developer for http://mtgfiddle.com
dkim
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States255 Posts
February 25 2011 17:55 GMT
#220
sponsorships and lawsuit drama ruining it for those who wants to game n watch
someday it will all blow over... that day is not today
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