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Cobbbler
Profile Joined July 2010
United States60 Posts
February 16 2011 08:05 GMT
#221
But what will Tasteless and Artosis do?! Their little nerd is leaving the nest =( It's so sad.
Goibon
Profile Joined May 2010
New Zealand8185 Posts
February 16 2011 08:05 GMT
#222
Good luck Grack!

This is a good decision. Idra's done a lot in Korea, and now he can do exactly what he said, and be a huge part of e sport growth in the west.

If it were any other player (apart from Jinro) i'd call this wussing out. But really it's the best decision. If you're someone else who hasn't had the results that Idra or Jinro has had then i think you'd be best suited to staying in Korea and trying to accomplish something in the GSL. Jinro and Idra are the benchmark for foreigners and this is largely due to their GSL performances. Having Idra go back is one thing, but imagine if Jinro goes to US full time in the future to. Here we have 2 most ultimate power foreigners. Do other foreigner have power level to match?!?! Perhaps they must go to Korea and train for inner balance and strength. Only then can they defeat Gorilla and Gracken.

Excitement explosion!
Leenock =^_^= Ryung =^_^= Parting =^_^= herO =^_^= Guilty
Manifesto7
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Osaka27154 Posts
February 16 2011 08:05 GMT
#223
On February 16 2011 16:56 ageai wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 16 2011 16:49 ZlaSHeR wrote:
On February 16 2011 16:41 Manifesto7 wrote:
He would be crazy to stay in Korea, especially when he isn't supported by a team or house there. The upcoming scene in the US will put the GSL to shame anyway.


Beautifully put.


shame? are you kidding me? the price for the 1st wont be any bigger than in the gsl. the players in the gsl will be the best in the future too. nobody in the west will be as good as mvp for example. but its a nice illusion....

all the west vs asia bullshit. korea will be always dominant. face it


Well I venture to guess that my info is better than yours. But even so, # of tournaments x Level of competition are the obvious factors missing from your equation.


On February 16 2011 16:55 rift wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 16 2011 16:41 Manifesto7 wrote:
Let's see.

Option A) Stay in Korea with a ridiculously difficult tournament which you have to place in the top 2 to be really worth it. Be away from your friends / family / language / culture (already has been two years or more by now anyway). Be hindered in your ability to participate in far more numerous and less competitive tournaments.

Option B) Go back to your country of birth. Rejoin teammates. Have the freedom to fly around the world on the sponsor's dime. Have a much higher chance of winning. Give your sponsor better promotion. Keep reasonable hours. Enjoy eating natural cheese and drink beer that doesn't look like tap water.

He would be crazy to stay in Korea, especially when he isn't supported by a team or house there. The upcoming scene in the US will put the GSL to shame anyway.


Do you recommend Liquid members leave as well if they don't achieve anything in GSL March? Which, by your standards, is the finals of Code S.


Nope, because A) living as a team together is a much different dynamic, especially for an international team like liquid (ie. doesn't have a "base" location, better support system), B) Liquid also travels together a lot (more than IdrA did), and C) they have not been there for years already.

People forget how long IdrA spent with BW pro teams before SC2 came along. As an ex-pat, I know the stresses that being away from your own country. Everyone reacts differently of course, I am not IdrA, but everyone reacts.
ModeratorGodfather
ageai
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany81 Posts
February 16 2011 08:06 GMT
#224
On February 16 2011 16:58 HuskyTheHusky wrote:
eSports is coming.

I can tell you there is tons of crazy stuff in the works for the west. Everyone should be very, very excited.


the only excitment is for the us boys, not for us (germans ) or at least for me.
I watch e-sports to see the best pro`s in a game do things that "common" pro`s could never do, and almost humiliate them. That skill-range just isn`t present in SC2. Again, I fully agree with having SC2 as a game.
CooDu
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Australia899 Posts
February 16 2011 08:07 GMT
#225
Good to see - looking forward to seeing him in the MLG circuit again and other NA based tournaments. Sad to see he went be in GSL anymore though.

But, whatever's best for him/EG
Just a simple guy, going wherever this journey takes me.
McDonalds
Profile Joined March 2010
Liechtenstein2244 Posts
February 16 2011 08:09 GMT
#226
USA

Real cheese and beer that isn't tap water

Yeah, sure.
High five :---)
trikshun
Profile Joined October 2010
United States437 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-16 08:11:29
February 16 2011 08:11 GMT
#227
I am sad to hear this . But if idrA does return to Korea, I'm sure he will automatically get a code A spot and he can just get back into code S that way.
Zlasher
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States9129 Posts
February 16 2011 08:11 GMT
#228
Times like this I wish Idra weren't banned so we coudl see if he would possibly reply to these threads.
Follow me: www.twitter.com/zlasher
Quarz
Profile Joined November 2010
448 Posts
February 16 2011 08:12 GMT
#229
I can understand his move, but everybody is a fool who thinks to win tournamnets without the best koreans will not be that prestigious. BW and maybe Sc2 in the future are the only real E-Sports. The Korean society is the only one where you get respected to be a gamer.
Erectum
Profile Joined August 2010
France194 Posts
February 16 2011 08:18 GMT
#230
Good call from him.

He will probably make more money in the US and be close to culture/friends/familly.
GeForceFX
Profile Joined June 2010
Lithuania101 Posts
February 16 2011 08:20 GMT
#231
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!! GSL without idra will never be the same (( GL Idra, i love u! I hope ur happy in us! :3
"My biggest rival is myself" - Nada
GullyFoyle
Profile Joined October 2010
United States103 Posts
February 16 2011 08:21 GMT
#232
Disappointed, but in a selfish way. One of my favorite aspects of the GSL has been the slowly increasing foreigner presence, and at least in the world of SC, IdrA is larger-than-life.

Hopefully this wont start an exodus.

Best of luck to you IdrA.
He was one hundred and seventy days dying and not yet dead...
rift
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
1819 Posts
February 16 2011 08:21 GMT
#233
On February 16 2011 17:05 Manifesto7 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 16 2011 16:56 ageai wrote:
On February 16 2011 16:49 ZlaSHeR wrote:
On February 16 2011 16:41 Manifesto7 wrote:
He would be crazy to stay in Korea, especially when he isn't supported by a team or house there. The upcoming scene in the US will put the GSL to shame anyway.


Beautifully put.


shame? are you kidding me? the price for the 1st wont be any bigger than in the gsl. the players in the gsl will be the best in the future too. nobody in the west will be as good as mvp for example. but its a nice illusion....

all the west vs asia bullshit. korea will be always dominant. face it


Well I venture to guess that my info is better than yours. But even so, # of tournaments x Level of competition are the obvious factors missing from your equation.


Show nested quote +
On February 16 2011 16:55 rift wrote:
On February 16 2011 16:41 Manifesto7 wrote:
Let's see.

Option A) Stay in Korea with a ridiculously difficult tournament which you have to place in the top 2 to be really worth it. Be away from your friends / family / language / culture (already has been two years or more by now anyway). Be hindered in your ability to participate in far more numerous and less competitive tournaments.

Option B) Go back to your country of birth. Rejoin teammates. Have the freedom to fly around the world on the sponsor's dime. Have a much higher chance of winning. Give your sponsor better promotion. Keep reasonable hours. Enjoy eating natural cheese and drink beer that doesn't look like tap water.

He would be crazy to stay in Korea, especially when he isn't supported by a team or house there. The upcoming scene in the US will put the GSL to shame anyway.


Do you recommend Liquid members leave as well if they don't achieve anything in GSL March? Which, by your standards, is the finals of Code S.


Nope, because A) living as a team together is a much different dynamic, especially for an international team like liquid (ie. doesn't have a "base" location, better support system), B) Liquid also travels together a lot (more than IdrA did), and C) they have not been there for years already.

People forget how long IdrA spent with BW pro teams before SC2 came along. As an ex-pat, I know the stresses that being away from your own country. Everyone reacts differently of course, I am not IdrA, but everyone reacts.


True, but I hope they think placing outside of the top 2 is worth it, otherwise there is little motivation to compete. There's also the Code S salary.

I expect that Ret will return if he doesn't make S; he's expressed as much. Possibly Haypro as well. Huk seems extremely dedicated and could stay longer, but it would be hard without results in the tournament you're putting all your effort towards.

SolonTLG
Profile Joined November 2010
United States299 Posts
February 16 2011 08:22 GMT
#234
On February 16 2011 17:05 Cobbbler wrote:
But what will Tasteless and Artosis do?! Their little nerd is leaving the nest =( It's so sad.


I agree that Artosis is going to be a sad nerd boy. I think that is one of the reasons why Idra was so nervous in the announcement video. The guy was talking soooooooo fast (and I mean faster than normal)!

Do you all think that Tastless is returning soon too, in order to help run the NASL (or whatever InControl ends-up announcing next week)?
The Law Giver
legatus legionis
Profile Joined October 2010
Netherlands559 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-16 08:27:28
February 16 2011 08:22 GMT
#235
Dear Greg,

Excellent move. You've said it before that it sucks you can't play in all the small tournaments. I think it will be really fun sseing you play there as well as learning from it, being different a thing than the GSL. Another thing is with the practice partners you don't really have in Korea. I'm sure you will be able to get many now and that will also help your game, because you've been mostly laddering for practice in Korea. I feel some of the specific things or the playground feeling you get from custom games, and focusing on testing out certain builds or tactics will be great.

Also you've been away for a very long time and you have become older. I think you will benefit a lot from being around people, assuming you will go live with say, Geoff or something. From some of the interviews it did seem you are alone a lot in Korea, you've got Dan and Nick but that only goes so far, as you've mentioned they are really busy with the GSL nowadays. Living with people, having fun, doing fun things, watching movies, talking, eating together, visiting your parents. I really feel you will grown as a person from that. I'm making assumptions but I do feel they are valid. I'm interested to see how you will change in that regards the comming months.

Best of luck Greg. Fully support it even though you are one of the best foreigners representing in Korea at the moment. All the stuff above outweighs that because it's good for you and it's a good moment in your life.

Fighting!

Edit, Forgot to prove read and because I just woke up, I left out tons of words in sentences 0o
MrSnibbles
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United Kingdom267 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-16 08:26:06
February 16 2011 08:23 GMT
#236
On February 16 2011 16:58 HuskyTheHusky wrote:
eSports is coming.

I can tell you there is tons of crazy stuff in the works for the west. Everyone should be very, very excited.



So, I'm guessing that you know what's going on, and have been asked to take part in it?


NASL confirmed for real, everyone just chill.

Edit: If you do know what's going on, can I be a part of it? :3
Thank you, based god.
SushilS
Profile Joined November 2010
2115 Posts
February 16 2011 08:24 GMT
#237
On February 16 2011 15:58 T.O.P. wrote:
He gave up on beating the Koreans. No respect.

This. After talking about the "respect" thing right from BW days, now he completely glosses over that for the sake of $$. Makes sense alrite but 0/5 from me, for whatevs its worth.-_-
iceiceice: I’m going to make this short; I am the one true tinker player.
RedHelix
Profile Joined August 2010
250 Posts
February 16 2011 08:25 GMT
#238
IdrA returning to the US is so cool, i can think of soooo many tournaments where it would have been so awesome to see IdrA play and it not happening because of latency/time zone issues, with the new MLG announcements and all these other tournaments, I think the US and Europe are really the places to be right now for competitive starcraft.
Loanshark
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
China3094 Posts
February 16 2011 08:27 GMT
#239
He probably won't even be able to win in foreigner leagues.
No dough, no go. And no mercy.
SolonTLG
Profile Joined November 2010
United States299 Posts
February 16 2011 08:27 GMT
#240
On February 16 2011 16:58 HuskyTheHusky wrote:
eSports is coming.

I can tell you there is tons of crazy stuff in the works for the west. Everyone should be very, very excited.


Let's hope so Brotoss!
The Law Giver
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