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Sweden33719 Posts
On February 16 2011 15:23 Moonling wrote:Show nested quote +On February 16 2011 15:18 Popsycle wrote: THe prize money for MLG is better than GSL and less work, pretty smart move on his part Umm pretty sure GSL is 50k while MLG is like 13kish so no... where are you getting this info from? The prizepool for GSL is over 100k, its first place thats 50k.
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lololololol another terribad foreigner bites the dust. tlo went home in disgrace pretending his wrist was hurt rofl what a joke. select says he gonna play in gsl then cant even qualify then has to go back home and make up excuses. now idra realizes he never did jack squat in any gsl tourney and is only falling more behind. can't wait til jinro goes home with his tail behind his chin when his turtle terran style sit in base til 200 food strat gets passed by.
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So, leaving the talk of NASL and the ridiculous argument between the "honor" of East and West behind, I still have a few things to note.
1) Colbi, that's a totally awesome banner. IdrA should use it officially for stuff, lol.
2) IdrA continues to show that he's gotten really amazing at interviews. Seeing his evolution as a player and personality has been truly impressive and I'm happy to say that I'd be okay with IdrA as a figurehead in the Western media for eSports going forward.
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Sad to see a foreigner leave gsl, enjoyed watching his games.
Best of luck in NA!
And gsl should just put ret in code S now
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While I'm not a fan of the move I think it's incredibly smart from his standpoint financially. Moving back he is sure to have weaker competition and more tourneys to enter. I'm pretty choked he just kinda threw in the towel for this season of the GSL but not much you can do.
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meh, while it is probably the correct business decision to move back to NA, it does feel like he is giving up. No matter how much prize money is offered in these upcoming NA tournaments, unless they have top korean players coming over to participate, GSL will remain the summit of SC2. The skill level in GSL in comparison to MLG and other NA tournaments just isn't the same =/. Also, there isn't the sense of prestige and greatness in these tournaments because simply put, starcraft just doesn't get the same respect outside of Korea.
A tournament in Korea is a major sporting event, a tournament in NA is just a video game tournament =/.
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On February 16 2011 16:41 Manifesto7 wrote: Let's see.
Option A) Stay in Korea with a ridiculously difficult tournament which you have to place in the top 2 to be really worth it. Be away from your friends / family / language / culture (already has been two years or more by now anyway). Be hindered in your ability to participate in far more numerous and less competitive tournaments.
Option B) Go back to your country of birth. Rejoin teammates. Have the freedom to fly around the world on the sponsor's dime. Have a much higher chance of winning. Give your sponsor better promotion. Keep reasonable hours. Enjoy eating natural cheese and drink beer that doesn't look like tap water.
He would be crazy to stay in Korea, especially when he isn't supported by a team or house there. The upcoming scene in the US will put the GSL to shame anyway.
Beautifully put.
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So exciting! My favorite player returns and will be playing in tournies at reasonable hours IdrA Fighting!!!!
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On February 16 2011 16:41 Manifesto7 wrote: Let's see.
Option A) Stay in Korea with a ridiculously difficult tournament which you have to place in the top 2 to be really worth it. Be away from your friends / family / language / culture (already has been two years or more by now anyway). Be hindered in your ability to participate in far more numerous and less competitive tournaments.
Option B) Go back to your country of birth. Rejoin teammates. Have the freedom to fly around the world on the sponsor's dime. Have a much higher chance of winning. Give your sponsor better promotion. Keep reasonable hours. Enjoy eating natural cheese and drink beer that doesn't look like tap water.
He would be crazy to stay in Korea, especially when he isn't supported by a team or house there. The upcoming scene in the US will put the GSL to shame anyway.
Do you recommend Liquid members leave as well if they don't achieve anything in GSL March? Which, by your standards, is the finals of Code S.
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On February 16 2011 16:49 ZlaSHeR wrote:Show nested quote +On February 16 2011 16:41 Manifesto7 wrote: He would be crazy to stay in Korea, especially when he isn't supported by a team or house there. The upcoming scene in the US will put the GSL to shame anyway. Beautifully put.
shame? are you kidding me? the price for the 1st wont be any bigger than in the gsl. the players in the gsl will be the best in the future too. nobody in the west will be as good as mvp for example. but its a nice illusion....
all the west vs asia bullshit. korea will be always dominant. face it
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On February 16 2011 16:25 War Horse wrote: That's the clear reason he's doing it. Its the same reason White-Ra stays in Europe.
I think we're going to see most of the foreigners disappear from the GSL though =\
And then suddenly no one can keep up with Koreans again. Cause obviously no Non-Korean teams can's keep the same team environment and improvement as Koreans, ESPECIALLY outside Korea.
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It is disappointing for us fans/spectators but we have to understand that SC2 is Idra's career. It's his means of earning a living. I respect his decision, I hope it goes well for him. Who's to say Western Esports won't actually surpass Korea? If everything goes according to plan, the west will be morphing into something close to what Korea has now. That means Team Houses, which can only increase the players' level of skill.
Personally, I really wanted Idra to stay and represent the west in korea. Having that elite status of being one of the only Americans to make it far in the GSL, I expected him to atleast finish GSL March before making this decision. But then again, I guess he'd be missing out if he wasn't here for Incontrol's "Big Announcement" *cough*NASL*cough*... He's American after all and a part of an American Team, so it makes sense he'd want to be a part of the boom in Western Esports.. I salute you Idra, GLHF! I hope you dominate the western tournaments..
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eSports is coming.
I can tell you there is tons of crazy stuff in the works for the west. Everyone should be very, very excited.
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From now on, Artosis will host Imbalanced by himself and it will be retitled "The Loneliest Show in the World."
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On February 16 2011 16:44 Char711 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 16 2011 16:36 Highways wrote: Quite disappointing tbh. It looks like he is choosing money over prestige and pride.
Going from playing against IMMVP, IMnestea, oGsMC to vsing machine, TT1 etc.. So there's no prestige and pride in Western eSports? I think that's both incorrect and short-sighted. Not only are some Western players absolutely amazing, but winning major tournaments here isn't exactly a small feat. Do you think winning Dreamhack, MLG or Assembly is just some easy walk in the park? Oh, well . . . I guess. It's not like it took someone with the skill to reach Top 4 in GSL two times in a row to win the last MLG national championship or anything. . . . You know, like a Jinro or something. Oh, wait.
Sorry buddy but you kind of just proved his point. The last two MLG winners have been players coming from Korea, and they rolled through their brackets.
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Boooo I wanted to see more foreigners in GSL! Hate to say it, but I can't see GSL/IEM ever making it as big as GSL and I don't think this is the right move for Idra
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anyone else feel bad for artosis ... what about the imbalanced show :o!!??
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On February 16 2011 16:41 Manifesto7 wrote: Let's see.
Option A) Stay in Korea with a ridiculously difficult tournament which you have to place in the top 2 to be really worth it. Be away from your friends / family / language / culture (already has been two years or more by now anyway). Be hindered in your ability to participate in far more numerous and less competitive tournaments.
Option B) Go back to your country of birth. Rejoin teammates. Have the freedom to fly around the world on the sponsor's dime. Have a much higher chance of winning. Give your sponsor better promotion. Keep reasonable hours. Enjoy eating natural cheese and drink beer that doesn't look like tap water.
He would be crazy to stay in Korea, especially when he isn't supported by a team or house there. The upcoming scene in the US will put the GSL to shame anyway.
Rofl...with this type of attitude we can just stop doing any type of competitive sport.
Sport is magical when you see people with passion and nothing else matters. As soon as it turn material things start going down. It is job of people around the "star" to make sure he stays in that "passion" mode for as long as possible.
Option A makes Champions, Option B makes those guys on a bench.
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They gotta figure out some webcam setup for imbalanced! D: I actually look forward to that show each week.
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