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CptHero
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada15 Posts
February 13 2011 19:10 GMT
#61
I certainly think Mr. Jinro tips the scales a bit in Sweden's favor after his last two very successful GSL's, but there are so many good players from both areas that it's hard to say. Would love to see more foreigners make it out there, it's just too bad that there aren't smaller tourneys for them if they don't make GSL or what not.

Keep up the good work MorroW!
SmoKim
Profile Joined March 2010
Denmark10305 Posts
February 13 2011 20:57 GMT
#62
On February 13 2011 21:04 Cri du Chat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2011 17:16 Krehlmar wrote:
What do you think: Which nation is the strongest in European StarCraft II?

MorroW: In Europe it's Sweden and Ukraine I guess.

What about Germany?

MorroW: Germany is great of course, but Sweden has a lot of good players that are established and also many up-and-coming players, so I have to say Sweden.


YEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH


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Excalibur
Profile Joined September 2009
United States58 Posts
February 13 2011 21:28 GMT
#63
New maps? Goes without saying. Stale map pools just lead to people getting bored, and I was bored a month ago.

OT:

Morrow is a good guy. I've spoken with him on BWMN quite a bit, and he's almost as skilled at mapping as he is at playing.

GL with Z Morrow. I've got every confidence in you.
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dogabutila
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States1437 Posts
February 14 2011 02:44 GMT
#64
The funny thing is he said he could win just as many tournaments playing as zerg before he switched and that zergs were just QQing.

Then now he says he def would have had a better chance playing terran.
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Euronyme
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden3804 Posts
February 14 2011 04:57 GMT
#65
On February 14 2011 04:10 CptHero wrote:
I certainly think Mr. Jinro tips the scales a bit in Sweden's favor after his last two very successful GSL's, but there are so many good players from both areas that it's hard to say. Would love to see more foreigners make it out there, it's just too bad that there aren't smaller tourneys for them if they don't make GSL or what not.

Keep up the good work MorroW!


I like what he's saying. I'm always quite impressed by MorroW's comments on these sort of things.
He's still a pretty young guy, but already sounds quite wise ^^

And with the Sweden - Germany thing. Sweden doesn't even have 1/8th of the German population, so if you count good player / capita, we're doing quite well at the moment.
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starcraft2rush
Profile Joined February 2011
306 Posts
February 14 2011 06:40 GMT
#66
I agree with what Morrow said here. The GSL Team leagues were the biggest showcase of how better maps can greatly improve the quality of games from a spectating point of view anyway. GL in the future morrow, mad props for sticking it out as zerg.
ch4ppi
Profile Joined July 2010
Germany802 Posts
February 14 2011 14:55 GMT
#67
nice interview, many valid points.
vdale
Profile Joined June 2010
Germany1173 Posts
February 14 2011 14:57 GMT
#68
On February 14 2011 11:44 dogabutila wrote:
The funny thing is he said he could win just as many tournaments playing as zerg before he switched and that zergs were just QQing.

Then now he says he def would have had a better chance playing terran.


The funny thing is that you can't back up your statement with an exact quote/link, because it's wrong.
dkim
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States255 Posts
February 14 2011 17:06 GMT
#69
So Koreans are not that superior at all as it seems to be like they were in Broodwar?

MorroW: No, they are not that dominant

has this guy played a lot of koreans? which I don't think he has, how is he saying it like he has koreans figured out. I know everyone who moved to korea and laddered/competed, they all say koreans > europe,us, and etc. like huk who goes to EU and ladders for few days to reach #1, in his interview he says otherwise.
Vimsey
Profile Joined May 2010
United Kingdom2235 Posts
February 14 2011 17:08 GMT
#70
On February 14 2011 23:57 vdale wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2011 11:44 dogabutila wrote:
The funny thing is he said he could win just as many tournaments playing as zerg before he switched and that zergs were just QQing.

Then now he says he def would have had a better chance playing terran.


The funny thing is that you can't back up your statement with an exact quote/link, because it's wrong.

Yes I dont remember him ever saying that either. He has complained about protoss but thats another thing entirely.
ProfessorCold
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States41 Posts
February 14 2011 18:42 GMT
#71
MorroW: As a Zerg for example, I spawn close position on Lost Temple for example, its instant loss. And if I spawn cross position then it maybe favors me instead. So many maps are so position dependant.

I think that the claim that your position automatically determines the outcome of the game is somewhat premature. It's not like you can't do anything to change your fate at all. Obviously, MorroW has played a lot more than me, and so he knows what he's talking about more than me, but I still feel that it's impossible for him to have tried every possibility.
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SayTT
Profile Joined August 2004
Sweden2158 Posts
February 14 2011 19:40 GMT
#72
On February 15 2011 02:06 dkim wrote:
So Koreans are not that superior at all as it seems to be like they were in Broodwar?

MorroW: No, they are not that dominant

has this guy played a lot of koreans? which I don't think he has, how is he saying it like he has koreans figured out. I know everyone who moved to korea and laddered/competed, they all say koreans > europe,us, and etc. like huk who goes to EU and ladders for few days to reach #1, in his interview he says otherwise.


maybe you should read the question again? Does the question say "are the korean ladder harder than the NA/EU"? No, they asked him if koreans are as dominant as they were in bw, which they CLEARLY are not.
-,-
dkim
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States255 Posts
February 14 2011 19:46 GMT
#73
and he knows about korean's playing style how? because he lost to ret? I really don't remember him ever playing any koreans or k ladder. either way, what I am saying is that he lacks encounters with korean players to make any comment about the subject.
however, huk has reached #1 in both EU and KOR and says pretty much contrary to everything morrow is saying in this interview. sorry if I got the swed fans mad or anything.
SayTT
Profile Joined August 2004
Sweden2158 Posts
February 14 2011 19:51 GMT
#74
not everything is about nationality, some of us do think before we post.
-,-
dkim
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States255 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-14 20:00:41
February 14 2011 19:59 GMT
#75
way to diss me bro, pretty sure nationality was brought by the interviewer's question dumbass.

edit: and hypocrite as well, where are you from?
Moonstruck
Profile Joined February 2011
20 Posts
February 14 2011 22:46 GMT
#76
I think that Morrow is really right.
He spends so much time invested into his gaming
that blizzard should maybe should take in this interview a little more seriously
DamageInq
Profile Joined April 2010
United States283 Posts
February 15 2011 02:58 GMT
#77
That's a true Zerg mullet.

I agree... the biggest step toward a balanced game (specifically for Zergs) is a new map pool
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azarat
Profile Joined September 2010
Australia155 Posts
February 15 2011 14:28 GMT
#78
On February 15 2011 03:42 ProfessorCold wrote:
Show nested quote +
MorroW: As a Zerg for example, I spawn close position on Lost Temple for example, its instant loss. And if I spawn cross position then it maybe favors me instead. So many maps are so position dependant.

I think that the claim that your position automatically determines the outcome of the game is somewhat premature. It's not like you can't do anything to change your fate at all. Obviously, MorroW has played a lot more than me, and so he knows what he's talking about more than me, but I still feel that it's impossible for him to have tried every possibility.


Of course its an exaggeration to say that "<x position> is a free win for <y race> on <z map>!" However, there can be no doubt that certain map spawns can tilt the scales of balance heavily in favour of one race in a matchup, to the point where with equally skilled players and without a massive blunder you can pick the winner of a map with a certain spawn with a high degree of certainty. It's no fun to watch such predetermined games, and equally no fun to play them, especially in a tournament setting.
Smigi
Profile Joined April 2010
United States328 Posts
February 19 2011 18:07 GMT
#79
On February 15 2011 11:58 DamageInq wrote:
That's a true Zerg mullet.

I agree... the biggest step toward a balanced game (specifically for Zergs) is a new map pool


Word.
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