• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 07:50
CET 13:50
KST 21:50
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
RSL Season 3 - Playoffs Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups C & D Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups A & B Preview2TL.net Map Contest #21: Winners12Intel X Team Liquid Seoul event: Showmatches and Meet the Pros10
Community News
RSL Season 3: RO16 results & RO8 bracket12Weekly Cups (Nov 10-16): Reynor, Solar lead Zerg surge1[TLMC] Fall/Winter 2025 Ladder Map Rotation14Weekly Cups (Nov 3-9): Clem Conquers in Canada4SC: Evo Complete - Ranked Ladder OPEN ALPHA12
StarCraft 2
General
RSL Season 3: RO16 results & RO8 bracket SC: Evo Complete - Ranked Ladder OPEN ALPHA RSL Season 3 - Playoffs Preview Mech is the composition that needs teleportation t GM / Master map hacker and general hacking and cheating thread
Tourneys
RSL Revival: Season 3 $5,000+ WardiTV 2025 Championship StarCraft Evolution League (SC Evo Biweekly) Constellation Cup - Main Event - Stellar Fest 2025 RSL Offline Finals Dates + Ticket Sales!
Strategy
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 500 Fright night Mutation # 499 Chilling Adaptation Mutation # 498 Wheel of Misfortune|Cradle of Death Mutation # 497 Battle Haredened
Brood War
General
Data analysis on 70 million replays [ASL20] Ask the mapmakers — Drop your questions soO on: FanTaSy's Potential Return to StarCraft FlaSh on: Biggest Problem With SnOw's Playstyle BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/
Tourneys
Small VOD Thread 2.0 [BSL21] GosuLeague T1 Ro16 - Tue & Thu 22:00 CET [BSL21] RO16 Tie Breaker - Group B - Sun 21:00 CET [BSL21] RO16 Tie Breaker - Group A - Sat 21:00 CET
Strategy
Current Meta Game Theory for Starcraft How to stay on top of macro? PvZ map balance
Other Games
General Games
Path of Exile Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread [Game] Osu! Should offensive tower rushing be viable in RTS games? Clair Obscur - Expedition 33
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread SPIRED by.ASL Mafia {211640}
Community
General
Russo-Ukrainian War Thread US Politics Mega-thread The Games Industry And ATVI Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine About SC2SEA.COM
Fan Clubs
White-Ra Fan Club The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Movie Discussion! Anime Discussion Thread Korean Music Discussion
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion NBA General Discussion MLB/Baseball 2023 TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
The Health Impact of Joining…
TrAiDoS
Dyadica Evangelium — Chapt…
Hildegard
Saturation point
Uldridge
DnB/metal remix FFO Mick Go…
ImbaTosS
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 2014 users

[Int] MorroW: "We need new maps"

Forum Index > Community News and Headlines
78 CommentsPost a Reply
1 2 3 4 Next All
Malnor
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany35 Posts
February 12 2011 10:04 GMT
#1
[image loading]

Stefan '(Z)MorroW' Andersson finished second in his group at Assembly Winter 2011. Asked after the groupstage he explains differences between Europe and Korea and demands new maps to be implemented.


Speaking of builts in general: Do European builts differ a lot from the Korean or American or are there just small details?

MorroW: It used to be kind of divided, because we didnt have replays of each other and so on but after GSL came along and so forth we could see each others built and so on. So now the playstyles have merged a bit and Europeans have started playing Korean builts, so its not super different now, but I guess the Koreans have more calculated the builts while the Europeans are more personal, they create their own styles a bit more than the koreans.

So Koreans are not that superior at all as it seems to be like they were in Broodwar?

MorroW: No, they are not that dominant, because its hard to get that dominant so fast in a game, because it takes years to become so much better than another part of the world. But Europe is taking Starcraft II very serious, so we have a lot of players practicing very hard, I think Europe can keep up pretty long.

...

What do you think is what Starcraft need to evaluate to the next level?

MorroW: I think the maps mostly, but if you get new maps, then new balance will be needed on them, of course. As a Zerg for example, I spawn close position on Lost Temple for example, its instant loss. And if I spawn cross position then it maybe favors me instead. So many maps are so position dependant.What do You think is what

...

When you look back, as you started playing zerg – was it the right decision to change the race?

MorroW: As far as tournament wins go, I would defenitely have a lot better chances with terran, but I like the switch a lot, it made me a lot happier as a player. And I enjoy practising more and playing for fun. I enjoy playing as zerg more than as terran.

...

Read the full interview over at fragster.de.
Facebook Twitter Reddit
WniO
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2706 Posts
February 12 2011 10:07 GMT
#2
morrow is a cool guy. maps are whats needed, but its challenging developing them. we have the new gsl maps and even our own iccup and motm maps rising up. we just need people/tourneys to start using them. glad hes liking the switch to zerg ^^
da_head
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Canada3350 Posts
February 12 2011 10:09 GMT
#3
Yep maps are definetely the problem right now. It's just a question of what's next? gsl maps, new blizz maps or iccup maps?
When they see MC Probe, all the ladies disrobe.
Exchange
Profile Joined January 2011
131 Posts
February 12 2011 10:11 GMT
#4
Builts = Builds?
My life for Aiur! BeSt and Stork fan
uSnAmplified
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1029 Posts
February 12 2011 10:13 GMT
#5
Good to see pros are speaking out, but i think blizzard is to stubborn to listen. Their new PTR maps are total abominations.
~
biskit
Profile Joined August 2010
Australia355 Posts
February 12 2011 10:14 GMT
#6
Yea new map please. Actually it would be great if they can use the GSTL maps, I would like to see that.

He switches race even though he wins more as Terran. Respect.
Sokalo
Profile Joined May 2010
United States375 Posts
February 12 2011 10:20 GMT
#7
On February 12 2011 19:04 Malnor wrote:
So Koreans are not that superior at all as it seems to be like they were in Broodwar?

MorroW: No, they are not that dominant, because its hard to get that dominant so fast in a game, because it takes years to become so much better than another part of the world. But Europe is taking Starcraft II very serious, so we have a lot of players practicing very hard, I think Europe can keep up pretty long.


That's the first logical answer I've seen given to that question.

Everyone else whines about a low skillcap or that the talented Korean brood war players refuse to switch over.
"Sometimes I wonder whether the world is being run by smart people who are putting us on, or by imbeciles who really mean it."
Qaatar
Profile Joined January 2011
1409 Posts
February 12 2011 10:39 GMT
#8
On February 12 2011 19:20 Sokalo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 12 2011 19:04 Malnor wrote:
So Koreans are not that superior at all as it seems to be like they were in Broodwar?

MorroW: No, they are not that dominant, because its hard to get that dominant so fast in a game, because it takes years to become so much better than another part of the world. But Europe is taking Starcraft II very serious, so we have a lot of players practicing very hard, I think Europe can keep up pretty long.


That's the first logical answer I've seen given to that question.

Everyone else whines about a low skillcap or that the talented Korean brood war players refuse to switch over.


The real question is: why is this superiority crap being asked in every single foreigner interview? It's like these guys have inferiority complexes, or are baiting some sort of an answer akin to Demuslim's, and thus starting up another shitstorm. The foreigner scene is much stronger today for SC2 than it was 12 years ago for BW, and even back then, the first to dominate/do well were foreigners like Maynard, Giyom and Legionnaire. It took almost three years for the Koreans to actually rise head and shoulders above everyone else. Not to mention that right now, SC2 is still rather weak in Korea, as most of the talent is still being funneled into BW. I'm actually surprised that Korea is doing as well as it is, given the overall situation.

The "low" skillcap or lack of talent are all pieces of the puzzle, as well as the aforementioned overall SC2 situation in Korea and Morrow's answer. They are all factors, but I think every single person who follows the scene knows that; hence, the question is fucking retarded.
Phanekim
Profile Joined April 2003
United States777 Posts
February 12 2011 10:49 GMT
#9
everyone's been saying that new maps are needed. that or zerg need to get buffed. but that is beating a dead horse.
i like cheese
MegaBUD
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada179 Posts
February 12 2011 14:39 GMT
#10
Hahaha.... he wouldnt say that if he was still playing terran...

Sad... very sad...

At least hes not trying ot make a video about balance...

User was temp banned for this post.
Tabbris
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Bangladesh2839 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-12 14:44:30
February 12 2011 14:42 GMT
#11
How can someone possible think playing zerg is fun. Its the most frusterating race to play and they are really 1 dimensional :/
stroggos
Profile Joined February 2009
New Zealand1543 Posts
February 12 2011 14:50 GMT
#12
On February 12 2011 19:20 Sokalo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 12 2011 19:04 Malnor wrote:
So Koreans are not that superior at all as it seems to be like they were in Broodwar?

MorroW: No, they are not that dominant, because its hard to get that dominant so fast in a game, because it takes years to become so much better than another part of the world. But Europe is taking Starcraft II very serious, so we have a lot of players practicing very hard, I think Europe can keep up pretty long.


That's the first logical answer I've seen given to that question.

Everyone else whines about a low skillcap or that the talented Korean brood war players refuse to switch over.


sc2 hasn't taken off in korea, until it takes off they will never be as dominant as they were in broodwar. i believe about 5 million koreans played sc:bw, just look at the numbers of korean accounts on sc2ranks.
hi
stroggos
Profile Joined February 2009
New Zealand1543 Posts
February 12 2011 14:51 GMT
#13
On February 12 2011 19:49 Phanekim wrote:
everyone's been saying that new maps are needed. that or zerg need to get buffed. but that is beating a dead horse.


maybe if blizzard noticed the dead horse it wouldnt need to be beaten so much.
hi
clickrush
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Switzerland3257 Posts
February 12 2011 15:00 GMT
#14
On February 12 2011 23:51 stroggos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 12 2011 19:49 Phanekim wrote:
everyone's been saying that new maps are needed. that or zerg need to get buffed. but that is beating a dead horse.


maybe if blizzard noticed the dead horse it wouldnt need to be beaten so much.


blizzard did notice it. they are testing new maps and they said that they will implement new maps more frequently.
oGsMC: Zealot defense, Stalker attack, Sentry forcefieldu forcefieldu, Marauder die die
nekuodah
Profile Joined August 2010
England2409 Posts
February 12 2011 15:00 GMT
#15
On February 12 2011 23:42 Tabbris wrote:
How can someone possible think playing zerg is fun. Its the most frusterating race to play and they are really 1 dimensional :/


Oh no someone has a different opinion to you :O, im sure all the people who play zerg and whine, whine because they find zerg fun which is what makes them not wanna switch.
Marklar667
Profile Joined March 2010
47 Posts
February 12 2011 15:01 GMT
#16
On February 12 2011 23:39 MegaBUD wrote:
Hahaha.... he wouldnt say that if he was still playing terran...

Sad... very sad...

At least hes not trying ot make a video about balance...


Your post made me sick to my stomach :S
Azuroz
Profile Joined November 2010
Sweden1630 Posts
February 12 2011 15:05 GMT
#17
On February 12 2011 23:39 MegaBUD wrote:
Hahaha.... he wouldnt say that if he was still playing terran...

Sad... very sad...

At least hes not trying ot make a video about balance...


you should be happy that morrow isnt like those other whiny zergs out there, even i as a protoss player would love new maps. Many of the current ladder maps are horrible.
Team NSHoseo <3
Flaunt
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
New Zealand784 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-12 15:08:40
February 12 2011 15:07 GMT
#18
On February 12 2011 23:39 MegaBUD wrote:
Hahaha.... he wouldnt say that if he was still playing terran...

Sad... very sad...

At least hes not trying ot make a video about balance...



You have been banned and warned multiple times and yet you still don't learn, lol.

Great interview. MorroW is one of the strongest foreigners at the moment imo.
What? You seek something? You wish to multiply yourself tenfold, a hundredfold? You seek followers? Seek zeros!
ruiyang
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
252 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-12 15:37:15
February 12 2011 15:35 GMT
#19
On February 12 2011 23:39 MegaBUD wrote:
Hahaha.... he wouldnt say that if he was still playing terran...

Sad... very sad...

At least hes not trying ot make a video about balance...


On what do you base this on? He knows both perspectives and trained more with Zerg than he ever did with terran. He even enjoys the game more now. Still he has more tourney wins with Terran than any other EU terran (correct me if im wrong but I believe he has tons of 1st place wins since beta with T). He can actually even beat many top players with terran without practice! One of the last TLopens he took off a game in semifinal from a supergood terran with terran after being down 1-2 as zerg. And as Zerg he has been doin good be nowhere as great as his terran play (which didnt require half the efforr he's putting in now)

OT: love how good you became at Z morrow! Keep up the hard work! Or switch back to T and show how you can still perform as u did before :DDD anyway, ur a great player!
SushilS
Profile Joined November 2010
2115 Posts
February 12 2011 16:02 GMT
#20
MoRRow for President.... GG against TLO!
iceiceice: I’m going to make this short; I am the one true tinker player.
1 2 3 4 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 10h 10m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Lowko209
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 51817
Rain 3068
BeSt 934
Mini 610
Stork 583
firebathero 488
Light 441
actioN 433
EffOrt 418
Larva 240
[ Show more ]
ZerO 166
hero 149
Leta 128
Rush 105
Sharp 85
ajuk12(nOOB) 58
Mind 57
soO 47
ToSsGirL 47
Liquid`Ret 43
zelot 39
Sea.KH 38
Hm[arnc] 28
Backho 23
Noble 18
JulyZerg 17
scan(afreeca) 16
HiyA 11
Bale 6
Dota 2
singsing1829
Gorgc1782
Dendi433
XcaliburYe90
League of Legends
KnowMe55
Counter-Strike
olofmeister2140
zeus884
shoxiejesuss639
Other Games
B2W.Neo1300
crisheroes383
Fuzer 276
ArmadaUGS167
QueenE43
Trikslyr34
Dewaltoss15
ZerO(Twitch)9
Organizations
Dota 2
PGL Dota 2 - Main Stream18056
StarCraft 2
ComeBackTV 636
StarCraft: Brood War
UltimateBattle 65
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 11 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Jankos1647
Upcoming Events
Replay Cast
10h 10m
RSL Revival
18h 40m
Classic vs MaxPax
SHIN vs Reynor
herO vs Maru
WardiTV Korean Royale
23h 10m
SC Evo League
23h 40m
IPSL
1d 4h
Julia vs Artosis
JDConan vs DragOn
OSC
1d 4h
BSL 21
1d 7h
TerrOr vs Aeternum
HBO vs Kyrie
RSL Revival
1d 18h
Wardi Open
2 days
IPSL
2 days
StRyKeR vs OldBoy
Sziky vs Tarson
[ Show More ]
BSL 21
2 days
StRyKeR vs Artosis
OyAji vs KameZerg
Replay Cast
2 days
Monday Night Weeklies
3 days
Replay Cast
3 days
Wardi Open
3 days
Replay Cast
4 days
Wardi Open
4 days
Tenacious Turtle Tussle
5 days
The PondCast
5 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2025-11-16
Stellar Fest: Constellation Cup
Eternal Conflict S1

Ongoing

C-Race Season 1
IPSL Winter 2025-26
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 4
SOOP Univ League 2025
YSL S2
BSL Season 21
CSCL: Masked Kings S3
SLON Tour Season 2
RSL Revival: Season 3
META Madness #9
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2

Upcoming

BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
HSC XXVIII
RSL Offline Finals
WardiTV 2025
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026: Closed Qualifier
eXTREMESLAND 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
SL Budapest Major 2025
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.