• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 05:56
CET 11:56
KST 19:56
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
ByuL: The Forgotten Master of ZvT29Behind the Blue - Team Liquid History Book19Clem wins HomeStory Cup 289HomeStory Cup 28 - Info & Preview13Rongyi Cup S3 - Preview & Info8
Community News
Team Liquid Map Contest - Preparation Notice4Weekly Cups (Feb 23-Mar 1): herO doubles, 2v2 bonanza1Weekly Cups (Feb 16-22): MaxPax doubles0Weekly Cups (Feb 9-15): herO doubles up2ACS replaced by "ASL Season Open" - Starts 21/0258
StarCraft 2
General
Team Liquid Map Contest - Preparation Notice How do you think the 5.0.15 balance patch (Oct 2025) for StarCraft II has affected the game? ByuL: The Forgotten Master of ZvT Nexon's StarCraft game could be FPS, led by UMS maker Weekly Cups (Feb 23-Mar 1): herO doubles, 2v2 bonanza
Tourneys
PIG STY FESTIVAL 7.0! (19 Feb - 1 Mar) RSL Season 4 announced for March-April Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament SEL Doubles (SC Evo Bimonthly) WardiTV Team League Season 10
Strategy
Custom Maps
Publishing has been re-enabled! [Feb 24th 2026] Map Editor closed ?
External Content
The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 515 Together Forever Mutation # 514 Ulnar New Year Mutation # 513 Attrition Warfare
Brood War
General
Soma Explains: JD's Unrelenting Aggro vs FlaSh BW General Discussion It's March 3rd BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ CasterMuse Youtube
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues BWCL Season 64 Announcement The Casual Games of the Week Thread [LIVE] [S:21] ASL Season Open Day 1
Strategy
Soma's 9 hatch build from ASL Game 2 Fighting Spirit mining rates Simple Questions, Simple Answers Zealot bombing is no longer popular?
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Battle Aces/David Kim RTS Megathread Diablo 2 thread Path of Exile
Dota 2
The Story of Wings Gaming Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas Vanilla Mini Mafia TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine UK Politics Mega-thread NASA and the Private Sector
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
[Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books [Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion TL MMA Pick'em Pool 2013
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Laptop capable of using Photoshop Lightroom?
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Just Watchers: Why Some Only…
TrAiDoS
Unintentional protectionism…
Uldridge
ASL S21 English Commentary…
namkraft
Life Update and thoughts.
FuDDx
How do archons sleep?
8882
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 2004 users

IdrA on why he left so fast vs Jinro and more! - Page 4

Forum Index > Community News and Headlines
567 CommentsPost a Reply
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 6 27 28 29 Next All
AJMcSpiffy
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1154 Posts
January 21 2011 18:26 GMT
#61
I'm definitely looking forward to this improved stream! I'm not always a fan of how IdrA acts, but I've learned a lot from his games and analysis already
If the quarter was in your right hand, that would've been micro
grandmoose
Profile Joined April 2010
United States160 Posts
January 21 2011 18:26 GMT
#62
I love the interview location. Nice setting
not really a moose
Twitches
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada365 Posts
January 21 2011 18:27 GMT
#63
I'm honestly surprised that with the way he's been talking that he's not switching protoss right now. If he does, that is going to blow.
Gravity is just a feeble plot.
Jayrod
Profile Joined August 2010
1820 Posts
January 21 2011 18:27 GMT
#64
idra cracks me up man. When zerg was buffed 2 patches ago he said he cant see losing a game to terran and that he wont have trouble with any protoss. 1 patch comes through where they actually nerf terran a little bit and now suddenly out of no where zerg cant win any game ever
bobhund
Profile Joined March 2010
Sweden364 Posts
January 21 2011 18:27 GMT
#65
Thanks alot for the interview Artosis :D
Editor in chief at Rakaka.se
Senx
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Sweden5901 Posts
January 21 2011 18:28 GMT
#66
Can't really disagree with anything Idra says about zerg, he's got good experience and arguments to back up his claims.

Terran and Protoss have caught up on the proper ways to combat zergs and there will be an era now where zerg will struggle very hard. If it'll be patched or if zergs find a different way to play remains to be seen.

I do feel like maps and not the races themselves are more important in the balance discussion at this point. The game itself is pretty damn balanced.
"trash micro but win - its marine" MC commentary during HSC 4
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
January 21 2011 18:28 GMT
#67
Great interview Artosis, thanks.

syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-21 18:30:21
January 21 2011 18:28 GMT
#68
On January 22 2011 03:27 Jayrod wrote:
idra cracks me up man. When zerg was buffed 2 patches ago he said he cant see losing a game to terran and that he wont have trouble with any protoss. 1 patch comes through where they actually nerf terran a little bit and now suddenly out of no where zerg cant win any game ever

Terrans hadn't figured out these abusive builds back then

e: actually you don't even have to use them
Elefanto
Profile Joined May 2010
Switzerland3584 Posts
January 21 2011 18:29 GMT
#69
Thank you both for the interview, appreciated!

Looking forward to the stream / vods.
wat
nihlon
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden5581 Posts
January 21 2011 18:29 GMT
#70
On January 22 2011 03:27 Jayrod wrote:
idra cracks me up man. When zerg was buffed 2 patches ago he said he cant see losing a game to terran and that he wont have trouble with any protoss. 1 patch comes through where they actually nerf terran a little bit and now suddenly out of no where zerg cant win any game ever


I'm pretty sure Idra would have a problem with your paraphrases.
Banelings are too cute to blow up
Woony
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Germany6657 Posts
January 21 2011 18:30 GMT
#71
Idra streaming AND giving insight AND Vods? Yes please!
Roggay
Profile Joined April 2010
Switzerland6320 Posts
January 21 2011 18:32 GMT
#72
On January 22 2011 03:14 H0i wrote:
Nice interview.

Now talking about idra, I think he's just too much of a whiner. This constant whining of zerg being too weak is not going to change anything, if he keeps thinking his race is weak then that's not going to make him win more.

As a master league random/protoss player I admit say that it can be frustrating to play zerg on small maps, but the main reason so few protoss and zerg make it to Ro8 or Ro4 is because they are underrepresented. When the game was very new terran was a lot stronger, you can say op, because people did not know how to deal with them. Everyone picked terran and now we have an overdose of GSL terran players. The balance changes that were made help to even things out, and people found out new strategies. The game is a lot more fair than before and it's going in the right direction. If only guys like idra (and everyone else who whines about balance) stops whining and starts thinking of new ways to win then the situation might improve more.

Look at fruitdealer and nestea, look at mc. They did things differently and won GSL's.


But Fruitdealer and Nestea are whining a lot too. And you are dead wrong if you think a player of the caliber of IdrA doesnt think of "new ways" to win. I have a big problem with no-names whining and not trying to improve their plays, but progamers of that caliber know what they are talking about, you shouldnt question them this much.
HeroHenry
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1723 Posts
January 21 2011 18:33 GMT
#73
Even idra says MKP is going to beat jinro
BeMannerDuPenner
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
Germany5638 Posts
January 21 2011 18:34 GMT
#74
On January 22 2011 03:27 Jayrod wrote:
idra cracks me up man. When zerg was buffed 2 patches ago he said he cant see losing a game to terran and that he wont have trouble with any protoss. 1 patch comes through where they actually nerf terran a little bit and now suddenly out of no where zerg cant win any game ever


maps, game evolves,people get better. i play both z and t at master level and i pretty much dont ladder as Z anymore since its so frustrating (and no shakuras+lt bug didnt help either). mostly play z now only in pickup games vs T since my TvT sucks after not playing it for months. it might not be as bad as he says but Z is in a very suboptimal state compared to T/P and half of the mappool is a uphill battle from the start.



great interview, was waiting for that since the fa/idra match ! thanks artosis ~
life of lively to live to life of full life thx to shield battery
RoyalCheese
Profile Joined May 2010
Czech Republic745 Posts
January 21 2011 18:34 GMT
#75
Thanks for the interview, i really loved it, its good to hear some insight from IdrA. I also find it hilarious that random people from TL are trying to argue with what he said after he just made it to ro8 in the hardest tournament in the world. Show some respect.
Kennigit: "Chill was once able to retire really young, but decided to donate his entire salary TO SUPPORT ESPORTS"
Eric9
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States125 Posts
January 21 2011 18:34 GMT
#76
Not trying to be rude, but it seems like Idra really hates playing zerg. He should switch races instead of playing the whole "I'm a level 80 Paladin, but I have no dps. Paladins have no comeback ability. They're terrible in pvp. But starting a new character would be retarded. I've already invested so much time in this Paladin so I'll just continue to play it."
"I dice the tomato, you make the sauce." -Teamwork
Sergeras
Profile Joined May 2010
Bulgaria185 Posts
January 21 2011 18:35 GMT
#77
On January 22 2011 03:27 Jayrod wrote:
idra cracks me up man. When zerg was buffed 2 patches ago he said he cant see losing a game to terran and that he wont have trouble with any protoss. 1 patch comes through where they actually nerf terran a little bit and now suddenly out of no where zerg cant win any game ever
Idra's realistic view is pretty solid.I have to copy pasta what Idra said tho note that hydras are pretty abysmal and protoss air was solid and got buffed and Terrans started to figure out some decent builds.
PackofHighly
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States153 Posts
January 21 2011 18:35 GMT
#78
How tired is IdrA in this interview? The look on his face is kinda hilarious. Good job though.
THIS was your PLAN?
Roggay
Profile Joined April 2010
Switzerland6320 Posts
January 21 2011 18:35 GMT
#79
On January 22 2011 03:21 ToDoNtE wrote:
should have asked if he's thinking about changing race !


IdrA answered this question times and times again. Although he thinks Zerg is weak atm, he will not change races (although he is playing toss a bit) because he invested so much time into Zerg.
NonY
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
8751 Posts
January 21 2011 18:36 GMT
#80
all his streaming plans sound familiar because they're exactly what im doing! :D
"Fucking up is part of it. If you can't fail, you have to always win. And I don't think you can always win." Elliott Smith ---------- Yet no sudden rage darkened his face, and his eyes were calm as they studied her. Then he smiled. 'Witness.'
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 6 27 28 29 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 13h 4m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
LamboSC2 73
StarCraft: Brood War
Sea 40060
Britney 24300
Calm 7068
Horang2 1353
Hyuk 628
PianO 322
Light 238
Larva 187
Soma 176
Last 94
[ Show more ]
Sharp 93
Rush 92
Dewaltoss 83
ZerO 76
Mini 68
Backho 67
ToSsGirL 62
soO 48
Hm[arnc] 43
sorry 36
Free 29
910 24
sSak 24
JulyZerg 20
Noble 16
NaDa 16
GoRush 15
Shine 15
Sacsri 15
ajuk12(nOOB) 10
Terrorterran 8
Dota 2
XaKoH 514
Counter-Strike
olofmeister2000
shoxiejesuss928
allub279
x6flipin24
Other Games
singsing1712
Liquid`RaSZi892
ceh9593
Happy282
Fuzer 152
Livibee148
B2W.Neo121
crisheroes49
ZerO(Twitch)10
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick636
Counter-Strike
PGL86
StarCraft: Brood War
lovetv 13
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 14 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• StrangeGG 89
• LUISG 35
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• iopq 3
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Other Games
• WagamamaTV156
Upcoming Events
Replay Cast
13h 4m
The PondCast
23h 4m
KCM Race Survival
23h 4m
WardiTV Winter Champion…
1d 1h
Classic vs Nicoract
herO vs YoungYakov
ByuN vs Gerald
Clem vs Krystianer
Replay Cast
1d 13h
Ultimate Battle
2 days
Light vs ZerO
WardiTV Winter Champion…
2 days
MaxPax vs Spirit
Rogue vs Bunny
Cure vs SHIN
Solar vs Zoun
Replay Cast
2 days
CranKy Ducklings
2 days
WardiTV Winter Champion…
3 days
[ Show More ]
Replay Cast
3 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
3 days
WardiTV Winter Champion…
4 days
Replay Cast
4 days
Replay Cast
4 days
Monday Night Weeklies
5 days
Replay Cast
5 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-03-03
PiG Sty Festival 7.0
Underdog Cup #3

Ongoing

KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 1
Jeongseon Sooper Cup
Spring Cup 2026
WardiTV Winter 2026
Nations Cup 2026
ESL Pro League S23 Stage 1&2
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual
eXTREMESLAND 2025

Upcoming

ASL Season 21: Qualifier #1
ASL Season 21: Qualifier #2
ASL Season 21
Acropolis #4 - TS6
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
CSLAN 4
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2026
RSL Revival: Season 4
NationLESS Cup
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
CCT Season 3 Global Finals
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League S23 Finals
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.