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aquilon
Profile Joined April 2009
Canada3 Posts
July 13 2009 09:44 GMT
#181
It's better to let one guilty go free than to imprison 10 innocent men. It's far better to let one hacker go free then to ban 300,000 people just because.

But whatever. I don't even play on ICCup, and with Bnet2.0 on the horizon, I won't ever need it
motbob
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States12546 Posts
July 13 2009 09:44 GMT
#182
Even del was saying you're known to PMS
ModeratorGood content always wins.
niteReloaded
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Croatia5282 Posts
July 13 2009 09:45 GMT
#183
On July 13 2009 09:44 Nytefish wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2009 09:37 IdrA wrote:
so this one time cheloman was repeatedly making one of those server wide announcements
"TO ALL KOREANS USE MATCHLIST TO REPORT DISCONNECT. FORUM = BAD MATCHLIST=GOOOOOOOOOOOOD" so i whispered him that koreans dont speak capslock english either, so he replies 'say goodbye to the ladder' and resets my stats and bans my account.


thank god he didnt ip ban our house
or seoul, apparently


cheloman proves that there exist people dumber than light switches. Any form of logic or reasoning that doesn't virtually fellate him will probably result in a ban. If he read this comment he'd probably be petty and egotistical enough search up my name on iccup and ban me.

I would ban you from TL this post.
Seriously, shitting on someone (who actually does something for the community) like that with no real constructive purpose is just lame and can only make things worse.
lokiM
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States3407 Posts
July 13 2009 09:45 GMT
#184
On July 13 2009 18:21 LG)cheloman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2009 09:44 Nytefish wrote:
On July 13 2009 09:37 IdrA wrote:
so this one time cheloman was repeatedly making one of those server wide announcements
"TO ALL KOREANS USE MATCHLIST TO REPORT DISCONNECT. FORUM = BAD MATCHLIST=GOOOOOOOOOOOOD" so i whispered him that koreans dont speak capslock english either, so he replies 'say goodbye to the ladder' and resets my stats and bans my account.


thank god he didnt ip ban our house
or seoul, apparently


cheloman proves that there exist people dumber than light switches. Any form of logic or reasoning that doesn't virtually fellate him will probably result in a ban. If he read this comment he'd probably be petty and egotistical enough search up my name on iccup and ban me.


Give some example of any logic or reasoning talk with me that someone got a ban. Or you are a pretty damn retarded for talk shit about me without a single proof?. What a dick

unban me already
You can't fight the feeling.
Vex
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Ireland454 Posts
July 13 2009 09:47 GMT
#185
On July 13 2009 18:12 LG)cheloman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2009 09:37 IdrA wrote:
so this one time cheloman was repeatedly making one of those server wide announcements
"TO ALL KOREANS USE MATCHLIST TO REPORT DISCONNECT. FORUM = BAD MATCHLIST=GOOOOOOOOOOOOD" so i whispered him that koreans dont speak capslock english either, so he replies 'say goodbye to the ladder' and resets my stats and bans my account.

thank god he didnt ip ban our house
or seoul, apparently


I just IPban 1 time, and it was in the season 2.
You are a lier, after your statement, you added some insult, and thats why you were banned. I got a lot of funny comments, and none was banned or something like that.
Yes, its true, my english sux, but since I can write in 4 or 5 language and at least, let me understand, words from retarded people talking about my english skill dont affect me at all.



Im with chelo, he's a great admin, keeps the server reasonably clean so stfu all of you.
im sure theres more than just 1 guy with a dynamic ip in tampa that this situation needed to be carried out, maybe a malicious attempt at the server? something like that?

And i Believe this vs idra 100%, first of all its idra, some bm guy whose only known for being bm, so you know the part about him following up with bm is true. probally thought, oh im famous, il get away with it.

typical arrogance really, and i believe and back chelo 100%. keep up the good work with THE BEST FREE SERVER IN BW.
"Bonjwa" is the most retarded word ever. Wtf does it even sound like.
lokiM
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States3407 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-13 09:52:38
July 13 2009 09:49 GMT
#186
On July 13 2009 17:47 iCCup.deL wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2009 14:51 IdrA wrote:
well if you ban a whole city for one person chances are the legit complaints outnumber the illegit ones.
just maybe.


This is not even relevant to the argument...

Show nested quote +
On July 13 2009 15:51 PH wrote:
On July 13 2009 12:38 iCCup.deL wrote:
On July 13 2009 12:26 PH wrote:
I hope there are top players that iccup admins enjoy sucking the cocks of in my area...


People complain about not treating top players differently when it comes to abuse penalties and then they say shit like this -.-

I haven't heard of that, personally...but the sentiment is placed properly. Would the admins responsible for this really have banned an entire city's IPs if it had a well-known player there because it got annoying to deal with a handful of abusers around him? If it were the likes of Mondragon or something, I'm sure that solution wouldn't have even crossed their minds.

This is assuming, of course, that that's what happened. Poriyan1 seems to be saying otherwise.


Top players were getting penalised for breaking a rule and everyone wanted exemption for them just because they had star power. Anyway, you would want cities with good players to be IPbanned for equality? I am not particularly in favour of the decision made here but I am yet to see any good alternatives...

you've been pretty annoying lately, i guarantee you there are other alternatives, this was just an easy way out for unk and he doesn't fucking care at all. in no way shape or form is it FAIR to fucking ban 20+ or 50+ people because some random guy was cheating or abusing the system
You can't fight the feeling.
skronch
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States2717 Posts
July 13 2009 09:51 GMT
#187
On July 13 2009 16:54 Manifesto7 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2009 16:21 vx70GTOJudgexv wrote:
On July 13 2009 16:17 Manifesto7 wrote:
On July 13 2009 16:02 Carnac wrote:
On July 13 2009 12:36 iCCup.deL wrote:
There's probably nothing you can do about it because once a decision is made it is a general rule that it is not looked at again once agreed upon (so as to keep things running efficiently or something?).
What a great rule


A rule first perfected at TeamLiquid.net haha


Yeah, but last I checked, TL hasn't banned Tampa. Just puttin' that out there

EDIT: After this thread, Unk might just ban *.*.*.* lol.


Maybe we should just randomly ban a city each month for the hell of it.

why not?
lokiM
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States3407 Posts
July 13 2009 09:52 GMT
#188
On July 13 2009 12:27 Poriyan1 wrote:
w000t!!! good news, loki!! I just got a message from one of the admins,

* ICCup.Wanabkul

*

today @ 05:06 CET
"it's just server reset. Wait a bit and it will be fixed."

So hopefully soon =D.

what? i never got this message and it's wasn't a server reset, mai-k and unk already confirmed this
You can't fight the feeling.
Ilvy
Profile Joined September 2002
Germany2445 Posts
July 13 2009 10:02 GMT
#189
On July 13 2009 18:47 Vex wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2009 18:12 LG)cheloman wrote:
On July 13 2009 09:37 IdrA wrote:
so this one time cheloman was repeatedly making one of those server wide announcements
"TO ALL KOREANS USE MATCHLIST TO REPORT DISCONNECT. FORUM = BAD MATCHLIST=GOOOOOOOOOOOOD" so i whispered him that koreans dont speak capslock english either, so he replies 'say goodbye to the ladder' and resets my stats and bans my account.

thank god he didnt ip ban our house
or seoul, apparently


I just IPban 1 time, and it was in the season 2.
You are a lier, after your statement, you added some insult, and thats why you were banned. I got a lot of funny comments, and none was banned or something like that.
Yes, its true, my english sux, but since I can write in 4 or 5 language and at least, let me understand, words from retarded people talking about my english skill dont affect me at all.



Im with chelo, he's a great admin, keeps the server reasonably clean so stfu all of you.
im sure theres more than just 1 guy with a dynamic ip in tampa that this situation needed to be carried out, maybe a malicious attempt at the server? something like that?

And i Believe this vs idra 100%, first of all its idra, some bm guy whose only known for being bm, so you know the part about him following up with bm is true. probally thought, oh im famous, il get away with it.

typical arrogance really, and i believe and back chelo 100%. keep up the good work with THE BEST FREE SERVER IN BW.



LOL, you think that banning Idra from server just because for beeing sarcastic (what is normal for him and everyone knows)?
This is about playing a game and not about adims ego. I mean if every admin on ICCUP or WGT would ban for every shit it would be empty. If he was not racist or worse there is no reason for a ban at all ...
beside of that LG) got really cosy member that know a lot about "manner"
deL
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Australia5540 Posts
July 13 2009 10:03 GMT
#190
On July 13 2009 18:49 lokiM wrote:
you've been pretty annoying lately, i guarantee you there are other alternatives, this was just an easy way out for unk and he doesn't fucking care at all. in no way shape or form is it FAIR to fucking ban 20+ or 50+ people because some random guy was cheating or abusing the system


I acknowledge that there probably are alternatives, and better ones - but I am yet to see any suggested here. People are too quick to criticise and although there might be some ethical resaons about the 'fairness' no one has proposed a fair solution.

There has to be a reason for this, it seems to be a special case, as not every abuser has had his or her entire city IP banned.

Gaming videos for fun ~ http://www.youtube.com/user/WijLopenLos
niteReloaded
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Croatia5282 Posts
July 13 2009 10:06 GMT
#191
TL adminst ban ppl for being idiots, and if Idra BMed an admin here he'd get some sort of punishment too.

And if TL was facing some persistent hacker that was a danger for the site, I doubt they'd hesitate to ban a small(?) city.
deL
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Australia5540 Posts
July 13 2009 10:06 GMT
#192
On July 13 2009 19:02 Ilvy wrote:
LOL, you think that banning Idra from server just because for beeing sarcastic (what is normal for him and everyone knows)?
This is about playing a game and not about adims ego. I mean if every admin on ICCUP or WGT would ban for every shit it would be empty. If he was not racist or worse there is no reason for a ban at all ...
beside of that LG) got really cosy member that know a lot about "manner"


Why should IdrA's personality come into this, not being fair is what this is all about and granting a 'boys will be boys' excuse to someone is very unfair. Also there are probably repeat offences, and as long as the ladder boys are consistent in banning people for similar disrespect shown towards an admin I am all for it.
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lokiM
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States3407 Posts
July 13 2009 10:07 GMT
#193
On July 13 2009 19:03 iCCup.deL wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2009 18:49 lokiM wrote:
you've been pretty annoying lately, i guarantee you there are other alternatives, this was just an easy way out for unk and he doesn't fucking care at all. in no way shape or form is it FAIR to fucking ban 20+ or 50+ people because some random guy was cheating or abusing the system


I acknowledge that there probably are alternatives, and better ones - but I am yet to see any suggested here. People are too quick to criticise and although there might be some ethical resaons about the 'fairness' no one has proposed a fair solution.

There has to be a reason for this, it seems to be a special case, as not every abuser has had his or her entire city IP banned.


There is no "special" reason or case, if you read what I said it was ONE person that triggered the entire ban, already confirmed this with unk and every1 else, and yes I've gotten Pm's from people with the same problem

You obviously don't know iCCup or past drama that has fucked the community
You can't fight the feeling.
HeavOnEarth
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States7087 Posts
July 13 2009 10:09 GMT
#194
On July 13 2009 19:06 niteReloaded wrote:
TL adminst ban ppl for being idiots, and if Idra BMed an admin here he'd get some sort of punishment too.

And if TL was facing some persistent hacker that was a danger for the site, I doubt they'd hesitate to ban a small(?) city.

-TL advocates free opinions
- how is banning one "small" city going to do anything =/ there's a ton more
"come korea next time... FXO house... 10 korean, 10 korean"
winterBlossom
Profile Joined July 2009
Australia27 Posts
July 13 2009 10:10 GMT
#195
On July 13 2009 07:09 pR0gR4m3R wrote:
Show nested quote +
[B] I live near Tampa Florida, what's the point of this?

City of hackers xDDDDDD


Yes this is most likely, walk around your neighbor hood looking for people with shifty-eyes. Hackers are among you, and in strong numbers. I say, start up a crew and take the roam the internet in search of booty.
Baby be mine
unk.
Profile Joined June 2007
111 Posts
July 13 2009 10:13 GMT
#196
mice were crying and screaming but continued eating a cactus
LG)cheloman
Profile Joined June 2004
Argentina159 Posts
July 13 2009 10:13 GMT
#197
On July 13 2009 19:02 Ilvy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2009 18:47 Vex wrote:
On July 13 2009 18:12 LG)cheloman wrote:
On July 13 2009 09:37 IdrA wrote:
so this one time cheloman was repeatedly making one of those server wide announcements
"TO ALL KOREANS USE MATCHLIST TO REPORT DISCONNECT. FORUM = BAD MATCHLIST=GOOOOOOOOOOOOD" so i whispered him that koreans dont speak capslock english either, so he replies 'say goodbye to the ladder' and resets my stats and bans my account.

thank god he didnt ip ban our house
or seoul, apparently


I just IPban 1 time, and it was in the season 2.
You are a lier, after your statement, you added some insult, and thats why you were banned. I got a lot of funny comments, and none was banned or something like that.
Yes, its true, my english sux, but since I can write in 4 or 5 language and at least, let me understand, words from retarded people talking about my english skill dont affect me at all.



Im with chelo, he's a great admin, keeps the server reasonably clean so stfu all of you.
im sure theres more than just 1 guy with a dynamic ip in tampa that this situation needed to be carried out, maybe a malicious attempt at the server? something like that?

And i Believe this vs idra 100%, first of all its idra, some bm guy whose only known for being bm, so you know the part about him following up with bm is true. probally thought, oh im famous, il get away with it.

typical arrogance really, and i believe and back chelo 100%. keep up the good work with THE BEST FREE SERVER IN BW.



LOL, you think that banning Idra from server just because for beeing sarcastic (what is normal for him and everyone knows)?
This is about playing a game and not about adims ego. I mean if every admin on ICCUP or WGT would ban for every shit it would be empty. If he was not racist or worse there is no reason for a ban at all ...
beside of that LG) got really cosy member that know a lot about "manner"


You are taking this to a personal dimension by my teammate case. Your last comment is pointless.
Idra wasnt banned by some "sarcastic" comment. He broke a rule insulting to an admin. So, he got the punishment according with his acts.
Of course I didnt know that he was the "pretty good player Idra". When someone insult to me or other player, I follow the rules and nothing else.
So, before say "f he was not racist or worse there is no reason for a ban at all ..." why dont you think first: "There is some rule applied in this case?".

So, why you dont make your criticism before than a bm kid gest banned? haven´t you read our rules?.
lokiM
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States3407 Posts
July 13 2009 10:14 GMT
#198
chelo unban me
You can't fight the feeling.
HeavOnEarth
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States7087 Posts
July 13 2009 10:18 GMT
#199
On July 13 2009 18:13 LG)cheloman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2009 17:15 GinNtoniC wrote:
Iccup's pretty darn bad. I got banned once for 5pooling a friend of an admin and not appologizing for it.


Link to your complaint? (Or you never did?)

how can he complain when hes banned rofl
"come korea next time... FXO house... 10 korean, 10 korean"
deL
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Australia5540 Posts
July 13 2009 10:20 GMT
#200
On July 13 2009 19:07 lokiM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2009 19:03 iCCup.deL wrote:
On July 13 2009 18:49 lokiM wrote:
you've been pretty annoying lately, i guarantee you there are other alternatives, this was just an easy way out for unk and he doesn't fucking care at all. in no way shape or form is it FAIR to fucking ban 20+ or 50+ people because some random guy was cheating or abusing the system


I acknowledge that there probably are alternatives, and better ones - but I am yet to see any suggested here. People are too quick to criticise and although there might be some ethical resaons about the 'fairness' no one has proposed a fair solution.

There has to be a reason for this, it seems to be a special case, as not every abuser has had his or her entire city IP banned.


There is no "special" reason or case, if you read what I said it was ONE person that triggered the entire ban, already confirmed this with unk and every1 else, and yes I've gotten Pm's from people with the same problem

You obviously don't know iCCup or past drama that has fucked the community


Stop putting words in my mouth and trying to discredit me with semantics - I know you might be upset without your iccup fix but just because I have an iccup tag doesn't mean I can't give my unbiased opinion here. Just because it was one person (which I knew it was) doesn't mean it is the save as every other case, and you have not been extremely specific or detailed here so I was humouring the possibility that the one individual did something worse than others in order to warrant a different response from the admins.
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