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Avidkeystamper
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States8552 Posts
June 29 2009 21:55 GMT
#61
On June 30 2009 06:48 Mania[K]al wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 30 2009 06:39 Avidkeystamper wrote:
Jaedong did popularize 2 hatch muta and 3 hatch spire into 5 hatch hydra. So I wouldn't say he didn't make an impact.


Typical JD fanboi upset that not everyone in the world likes watching a ball of mutas win every game.

I remember you, you're the guy that said why do jaedong fanbois make 30 thread whenever he loses, in response to the strategical question about the viability of movie's dragoon timing build. Please stop trolling and lay off the hate.
Jaedong
StarN
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
United States2587 Posts
June 29 2009 21:55 GMT
#62
Where's PokJu?!
Retired BW Noob
danieldrsa
Profile Joined June 2008
Brazil523 Posts
June 29 2009 21:55 GMT
#63
On June 30 2009 05:23 Avidkeystamper wrote:
This doesn't work since there's no right answer. But I'll be glad to know that Jaedong has the biggest fanbase on TL! Can Bisu fans overtake us?!


We are realist and vote on Boxer
-*-
Atrioc
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States1865 Posts
June 29 2009 21:55 GMT
#64
On June 30 2009 06:52 crucifix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 30 2009 06:44 Djabanete wrote:
Jaedong and Bisu are the best players of right now.

Could any "best" players from previous years beat them in a Bo5?

No.

Jaedong and Bisu are the best players of all time.

Could Your JD and Bisu be able to beat Boxer/NaDa/rA in a Bo5, let's say 2 years ago?

No.


Uh..? Pick a better timeframe, lol.
2 years ago JD won the OSL and Bisu got a gold MSL title over Stork and a silver behind Mind. I'm pretty sure they wouldve beat Boxer, Nada, or Ra.
Writerman what
Mania[K]al
Profile Joined May 2009
United States359 Posts
June 29 2009 21:59 GMT
#65
On June 30 2009 06:55 Avidkeystamper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 30 2009 06:48 Mania[K]al wrote:
On June 30 2009 06:39 Avidkeystamper wrote:
Jaedong did popularize 2 hatch muta and 3 hatch spire into 5 hatch hydra. So I wouldn't say he didn't make an impact.


Typical JD fanboi upset that not everyone in the world likes watching a ball of mutas win every game.

I remember you, you're the guy that said why do jaedong fanbois make 30 thread whenever he loses, in response to the strategical question about the viability of movie's dragoon timing build. Please stop trolling and lay off the hate.



And youre that guy that gets very upset when JD loses and tries to blame it on something irrational other than JD being outplayed, because we all know thats not possible.
Avidkeystamper
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States8552 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-29 22:02:28
June 29 2009 22:00 GMT
#66
On June 30 2009 06:55 danieldrsa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 30 2009 05:23 Avidkeystamper wrote:
This doesn't work since there's no right answer. But I'll be glad to know that Jaedong has the biggest fanbase on TL! Can Bisu fans overtake us?!


We are realist and vote on Boxer

Boxer votes + Bisu votes -impartial boxer votes=?! Hmm, it's close.

On June 30 2009 06:59 Mania[K]al wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 30 2009 06:55 Avidkeystamper wrote:
On June 30 2009 06:48 Mania[K]al wrote:
On June 30 2009 06:39 Avidkeystamper wrote:
Jaedong did popularize 2 hatch muta and 3 hatch spire into 5 hatch hydra. So I wouldn't say he didn't make an impact.


Typical JD fanboi upset that not everyone in the world likes watching a ball of mutas win every game.

I remember you, you're the guy that said why do jaedong fanbois make 30 thread whenever he loses, in response to the strategical question about the viability of movie's dragoon timing build. Please stop trolling and lay off the hate.



And youre that guy that gets very upset when JD loses and tries to blame it on something irrational other than JD being outplayed, because we all know thats not possible.

Heres the evidence: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=95768
On June 19 2009 13:27 Mania[K]al wrote:
I like how when JD loses there has to be a 3 page thread to discuss it.

JD fanbois make me sick.

On June 20 2009 11:35 Mania[K]al wrote:
JEADONG LOST?

OH MY GOD SOMEONE START A THREAD, QUICK!

Jaedong
barth
Profile Joined March 2008
Ireland1272 Posts
June 29 2009 22:13 GMT
#67
I know its most likely not correct but I couldnt help myself voting Jaedong

+ Show Spoiler +
JAEDONG FIGHTING :O
"Somebody you are talking to disappears mid sentence, and the universe shoots you because you talked to someone that wasn`t there." - MasterOfChaos
Djabanete
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States2786 Posts
June 29 2009 22:14 GMT
#68
On June 30 2009 06:52 crucifix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 30 2009 06:44 Djabanete wrote:
Jaedong and Bisu are the best players of right now.

Could any "best" players from previous years beat them in a Bo5?

No.

Jaedong and Bisu are the best players of all time.

Could Your JD and Bisu be able to beat Boxer/NaDa/rA in a Bo5, let's say 2 years ago?

No.


If Person A is better now than Person B ever was, how can Person B be the best ever?
May the BeSt man win.
Jonoman92
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
United States9104 Posts
June 29 2009 22:20 GMT
#69
Best is a very subjective word. Most successful Nada. Most awesome Boxer. Best? perhaps Jaedong, but I voted Nada.
Schnake
Profile Joined September 2003
Germany2819 Posts
June 29 2009 22:20 GMT
#70
Although he is not the best, every poll with the option of Boxer is autovoted!
"Alán Shore" and "August Terran" @ LoL EUW - liquidparty
BookTwo
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
1985 Posts
June 29 2009 22:22 GMT
#71
Nada is the best. Boxer is the most popular/memorable/had the biggest effect on e-sports/idol/legend/micro gosu guy.
n
Profile Joined May 2009
United States48 Posts
June 29 2009 22:23 GMT
#72
On June 30 2009 06:18 LosingID8 wrote:
it's nada you stupids.


http://i40.tinypic.com/u36s5.png
OmniKnight
Profile Joined August 2008
United States73 Posts
June 29 2009 22:24 GMT
#73
umm gaming has changed overtime and ppl like nada and boxer get shit on by jaedong and flash.. so i vote jaedong idk why ppl voting boxer
Jonoman92
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
United States9104 Posts
June 29 2009 22:25 GMT
#74
On June 30 2009 07:14 Djabanete wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 30 2009 06:52 crucifix wrote:
On June 30 2009 06:44 Djabanete wrote:
Jaedong and Bisu are the best players of right now.

Could any "best" players from previous years beat them in a Bo5?

No.

Jaedong and Bisu are the best players of all time.

Could Your JD and Bisu be able to beat Boxer/NaDa/rA in a Bo5, let's say 2 years ago?

No.


If Person A is better now than Person B ever was, how can Person B be the best ever?


Well you have to consider the environments and stuff. ie: The best sprinter ever from the 1800s would be slow in comparison to any half-way decent sprinter nowadays. Except instead of changes in nutrition (steroids lol) and work outs, the changes are in the advancement and perfection of strategies and the fact that any player starting today have a much more obvious way as to the correct way to play.

Omg this argument reminds me of the most recent Rocky movie. Rocky Balboa where they do the projections of who would win a boxing match between Rocky in his prime and the new guy who is owning the scene.
Mongery
Profile Joined May 2009
892 Posts
June 29 2009 22:26 GMT
#75
Pretty easy question actually: boxer for sure, hes been peoples idol for ages "not mine" but hes a great player that's for sure.
http://www.twitch.tv/mongery_tv https://www.esportsearnings.com/players/27699-mongery-
Dice
Profile Joined April 2009
Korea (South)926 Posts
June 29 2009 22:27 GMT
#76
It's Jaedong, the best starcraft player ever known. He is the favorite against anyone in a BoX.
FaCE_1
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Canada6174 Posts
June 29 2009 22:31 GMT
#77
Nada
n_n
FranzF1
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Chile1710 Posts
June 29 2009 22:35 GMT
#78
LOL the most annoying thing for me is that people here dont understand that TIMEFRAMES are very important.. YOU CANT COMPARE BOXER TO JAEDONG... its simply YOU CANT, is comparing people that played and learning 2 diferent games... YOU SIMPLY DONT KNOW how the game was before Boxer (not just him... all the older gamers like him, yellow, nal_ra,etc...). Those People learn a game when builds orden doesn't even exist... it was all instinct.

Honestly I think that if you go back in time and bring the little Boxer (14 yrs old) and you show him and teach him starcraft the same way that Jaedong, Flash and Bisu learned HE WILL BE A FUCKING BEAST TEARING APART ALL THE SKILLES NOOBS.

=P

sry for my english and the mayus but i just cant be chill when people compare the skills of olders players vs new players its just stupid.
Member #99999^99 of the fanclub of Grape, Reality and TurN
FieryBalrog
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States1381 Posts
June 29 2009 22:40 GMT
#79
Boxer, because the game wouldn't be the same without him. Thats what greatest means. I'm sure Bjorn Borg would get owned by half the young players today, still the greatest.
I will eat you alive
Tekin
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
2711 Posts
June 29 2009 22:41 GMT
#80
No nal_ra?
voted for nada
Cheers! //¯◡◡¯\\ 문채원 | 한지우 -___-
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