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On June 30 2009 06:48 Mania[K]al wrote:Show nested quote +On June 30 2009 06:39 Avidkeystamper wrote: Jaedong did popularize 2 hatch muta and 3 hatch spire into 5 hatch hydra. So I wouldn't say he didn't make an impact. Typical JD fanboi upset that not everyone in the world likes watching a ball of mutas win every game. I remember you, you're the guy that said why do jaedong fanbois make 30 thread whenever he loses, in response to the strategical question about the viability of movie's dragoon timing build. Please stop trolling and lay off the hate.
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On June 30 2009 05:23 Avidkeystamper wrote: This doesn't work since there's no right answer. But I'll be glad to know that Jaedong has the biggest fanbase on TL! Can Bisu fans overtake us?!
We are realist and vote on Boxer
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On June 30 2009 06:52 crucifix wrote:Show nested quote +On June 30 2009 06:44 Djabanete wrote: Jaedong and Bisu are the best players of right now.
Could any "best" players from previous years beat them in a Bo5?
No.
Jaedong and Bisu are the best players of all time. Could Your JD and Bisu be able to beat Boxer/NaDa/rA in a Bo5, let's say 2 years ago? No.
Uh..? Pick a better timeframe, lol. 2 years ago JD won the OSL and Bisu got a gold MSL title over Stork and a silver behind Mind. I'm pretty sure they wouldve beat Boxer, Nada, or Ra.
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On June 30 2009 06:55 Avidkeystamper wrote:Show nested quote +On June 30 2009 06:48 Mania[K]al wrote:On June 30 2009 06:39 Avidkeystamper wrote: Jaedong did popularize 2 hatch muta and 3 hatch spire into 5 hatch hydra. So I wouldn't say he didn't make an impact. Typical JD fanboi upset that not everyone in the world likes watching a ball of mutas win every game. I remember you, you're the guy that said why do jaedong fanbois make 30 thread whenever he loses, in response to the strategical question about the viability of movie's dragoon timing build. Please stop trolling and lay off the hate.
And youre that guy that gets very upset when JD loses and tries to blame it on something irrational other than JD being outplayed, because we all know thats not possible.
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On June 30 2009 06:55 danieldrsa wrote:Show nested quote +On June 30 2009 05:23 Avidkeystamper wrote: This doesn't work since there's no right answer. But I'll be glad to know that Jaedong has the biggest fanbase on TL! Can Bisu fans overtake us?! We are realist and vote on Boxer  Boxer votes + Bisu votes -impartial boxer votes=?! Hmm, it's close.
On June 30 2009 06:59 Mania[K]al wrote:Show nested quote +On June 30 2009 06:55 Avidkeystamper wrote:On June 30 2009 06:48 Mania[K]al wrote:On June 30 2009 06:39 Avidkeystamper wrote: Jaedong did popularize 2 hatch muta and 3 hatch spire into 5 hatch hydra. So I wouldn't say he didn't make an impact. Typical JD fanboi upset that not everyone in the world likes watching a ball of mutas win every game. I remember you, you're the guy that said why do jaedong fanbois make 30 thread whenever he loses, in response to the strategical question about the viability of movie's dragoon timing build. Please stop trolling and lay off the hate. And youre that guy that gets very upset when JD loses and tries to blame it on something irrational other than JD being outplayed, because we all know thats not possible. Heres the evidence: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=95768
On June 19 2009 13:27 Mania[K]al wrote: I like how when JD loses there has to be a 3 page thread to discuss it.
JD fanbois make me sick.
On June 20 2009 11:35 Mania[K]al wrote: JEADONG LOST?
OH MY GOD SOMEONE START A THREAD, QUICK!
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I know its most likely not correct but I couldnt help myself voting Jaedong 
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On June 30 2009 06:52 crucifix wrote:Show nested quote +On June 30 2009 06:44 Djabanete wrote: Jaedong and Bisu are the best players of right now.
Could any "best" players from previous years beat them in a Bo5?
No.
Jaedong and Bisu are the best players of all time. Could Your JD and Bisu be able to beat Boxer/NaDa/rA in a Bo5, let's say 2 years ago? No.
If Person A is better now than Person B ever was, how can Person B be the best ever?
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Best is a very subjective word. Most successful Nada. Most awesome Boxer. Best? perhaps Jaedong, but I voted Nada.
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Although he is not the best, every poll with the option of Boxer is autovoted!
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Nada is the best. Boxer is the most popular/memorable/had the biggest effect on e-sports/idol/legend/micro gosu guy.
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umm gaming has changed overtime and ppl like nada and boxer get shit on by jaedong and flash.. so i vote jaedong idk why ppl voting boxer
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On June 30 2009 07:14 Djabanete wrote:Show nested quote +On June 30 2009 06:52 crucifix wrote:On June 30 2009 06:44 Djabanete wrote: Jaedong and Bisu are the best players of right now.
Could any "best" players from previous years beat them in a Bo5?
No.
Jaedong and Bisu are the best players of all time. Could Your JD and Bisu be able to beat Boxer/NaDa/rA in a Bo5, let's say 2 years ago? No. If Person A is better now than Person B ever was, how can Person B be the best ever?
Well you have to consider the environments and stuff. ie: The best sprinter ever from the 1800s would be slow in comparison to any half-way decent sprinter nowadays. Except instead of changes in nutrition (steroids lol) and work outs, the changes are in the advancement and perfection of strategies and the fact that any player starting today have a much more obvious way as to the correct way to play.
Omg this argument reminds me of the most recent Rocky movie. Rocky Balboa where they do the projections of who would win a boxing match between Rocky in his prime and the new guy who is owning the scene.
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Pretty easy question actually: boxer for sure, hes been peoples idol for ages "not mine" but hes a great player that's for sure.
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It's Jaedong, the best starcraft player ever known. He is the favorite against anyone in a BoX.
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LOL the most annoying thing for me is that people here dont understand that TIMEFRAMES are very important.. YOU CANT COMPARE BOXER TO JAEDONG... its simply YOU CANT, is comparing people that played and learning 2 diferent games... YOU SIMPLY DONT KNOW how the game was before Boxer (not just him... all the older gamers like him, yellow, nal_ra,etc...). Those People learn a game when builds orden doesn't even exist... it was all instinct.
Honestly I think that if you go back in time and bring the little Boxer (14 yrs old) and you show him and teach him starcraft the same way that Jaedong, Flash and Bisu learned HE WILL BE A FUCKING BEAST TEARING APART ALL THE SKILLES NOOBS.
=P
sry for my english and the mayus but i just cant be chill when people compare the skills of olders players vs new players its just stupid.
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Boxer, because the game wouldn't be the same without him. Thats what greatest means. I'm sure Bjorn Borg would get owned by half the young players today, still the greatest.
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No nal_ra? voted for nada
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