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mdb
Profile Blog Joined February 2003
Bulgaria4059 Posts
June 29 2009 21:21 GMT
#41
nada of course
Avidkeystamper
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States8552 Posts
June 29 2009 21:23 GMT
#42
On June 30 2009 06:21 Mania[K]al wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 30 2009 06:09 Avidkeystamper wrote:
On June 30 2009 05:59 Mania[K]al wrote:
On June 30 2009 05:42 Pufftrees wrote:
I voted for Jaedong because in his prime I think he can beat anyone else in a bo7 series in their prime. OfC these are speculative matches (like saying Tyson in prime vs Ali etc), but Jaedong is just fucking ridiculous combination of everything the best player should be.


Yeah so far JD has been amazing at playing over 80% ZvZs and then winning most of his games in the new Zerg favored map pool.


I hope someone misses my sarcasm.

Don't get bitter if someone besides your favorite player wins, god forbid, an internet poll.
Also, "nuthugger" is a new one. XD



Of course im not bitter, Im just stating if youre going to make a thread about the best SC players at least do it right. SC2 brought in tons of brand new kids that dont know what the oldschoolers were capable of and all they know is how to scream OH MY GOD EE JAE DONG!!! millions of times everywhere they see something SC related.

Then Chill? It's a poll that I doubt will influence anyone else's opinion of who is actually the best. There's nothing wrong with newer fans of SC liking the new players.
Jaedong
SkelA
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Macedonia13032 Posts
June 29 2009 21:24 GMT
#43
How is boxer geting so much votes ??? Cmon i know he is like the father of starcraft but best? not a chance maybe most famous and most entertaining.

Best right now is Jaedong and probably of all time but Nada is right there because he was best for al ong time and he is kinda bad now

A year or 2 of Jaedong owning and Nada sucking then will be Jaedong of all time and noone could even come close 2nd.
Stork and KHAN fan till 2012 ...
LuMiX
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
China5757 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-29 21:26:43
June 29 2009 21:26 GMT
#44
NaDa

edit- hes been in top 30 for what 6 years? who else has this accomplishment?
despite
Profile Joined June 2009
Bulgaria105 Posts
June 29 2009 21:26 GMT
#45
I just didn't look down after the first name = ez.
ActualSteve
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States627 Posts
June 29 2009 21:27 GMT
#46
I have been following Korean SC for almost 2 years.

NEVER have I seen Jaedong fade.
NEVER have I seen Bisu fade.

For my limited scope of the scene, ^^ Those two have been the only contenders.
Fuck this theory that because JD / Bisu are good now, we vote for them.
You are now breathing manually.
Bozali
Profile Joined January 2008
Sweden155 Posts
June 29 2009 21:29 GMT
#47
no REACH!?
oob
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Sweden630 Posts
June 29 2009 21:30 GMT
#48
On June 30 2009 05:48 Arbiter[frolix] wrote:
Iloveoov.


QFT.

Oov was just too good.
Happiest man on earth
beLieVe
Profile Joined June 2009
Germany15 Posts
June 29 2009 21:33 GMT
#49
If its personal preference its (Z)YellOw for me ( Voted him too)

If its in general i dont think i have to repeat some of the previous posts.
Gee Gee
mastuh
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States64 Posts
June 29 2009 21:34 GMT
#50
it's nada... golden mouse + golden badge + not dropping out of kespa's top 30 for 6 years.
blueblimp
Profile Joined May 2009
Canada297 Posts
June 29 2009 21:36 GMT
#51
Depends in what sense:

Most consistent high skill? Nada, clearly.

Highest absolute skill (in their prime)? Jaedong, or maybe Bisu, since the general skill level of pros is so high now.

Highest relative skill (in their prime)? One of the bonjwas, since that's what bonjwa means.

Biggest impact on the game as a game? I'd argue iloveoov, but there are other good choices here: Boxer, Savior, and old-school players I don't know well enough. Players known for reinventing certain match-ups are decent choices too, like Bisu or Fantasy. Certainly not Jaedong, since no one knows the secret of his zvz, and I don't think he's made a big impact in other match-ups.

Biggest impact on the game as an eSport? Boxer.
Avidkeystamper
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States8552 Posts
June 29 2009 21:39 GMT
#52
Jaedong did popularize 2 hatch muta and 3 hatch spire into 5 hatch hydra. So I wouldn't say he didn't make an impact.
Jaedong
Djabanete
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States2786 Posts
June 29 2009 21:44 GMT
#53
Jaedong and Bisu are the best players of right now.

Could any "best" players from previous years beat them in a Bo5?

No.

Jaedong and Bisu are the best players of all time.
May the BeSt man win.
Mania[K]al
Profile Joined May 2009
United States359 Posts
June 29 2009 21:48 GMT
#54
On June 30 2009 06:39 Avidkeystamper wrote:
Jaedong did popularize 2 hatch muta and 3 hatch spire into 5 hatch hydra. So I wouldn't say he didn't make an impact.


Typical JD fanboi upset that not everyone in the world likes watching a ball of mutas win every game.
disciple
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
9070 Posts
June 29 2009 21:49 GMT
#55
NaDa - I dont even know what this fuzz is all about
Administrator"I'm a big deal." - ixmike88
Mania[K]al
Profile Joined May 2009
United States359 Posts
June 29 2009 21:49 GMT
#56
On June 30 2009 06:44 Djabanete wrote:
Jaedong and Bisu are the best players of right now.

Could any "best" players from previous years beat them in a Bo5?

No.

Jaedong and Bisu are the best players of all time.


Them being old could very possibly be a factor in them not being capable of beating Bisu/JD in a Bo5.
Atrioc
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States1865 Posts
June 29 2009 21:52 GMT
#57
NaDa or Jaedong depending on how the question is interpreted.

JD's stats are fucking amazing though - I'm pretty sure no other progamer has has 69%+ win with over 300 games played. Not to mention he holds the "best matchup of all time" title in his ZvZ, somehow beating out iloveoov's godly 27-0 TvZ and sAviOr's unholy ZvP.

Writerman what
Carnac
Profile Blog Joined December 2003
Germany / USA16648 Posts
June 29 2009 21:52 GMT
#58
On June 30 2009 06:36 blueblimp wrote:
Depends in what sense:

Most consistent high skill? Nada, clearly.

Highest absolute skill (in their prime)? Jaedong, or maybe Bisu, since the general skill level of pros is so high now.

Highest relative skill (in their prime)? One of the bonjwas, since that's what bonjwa means.

Biggest impact on the game as a game? I'd argue iloveoov, but there are other good choices here: Boxer, Savior, and old-school players I don't know well enough. Players known for reinventing certain match-ups are decent choices too, like Bisu or Fantasy. Certainly not Jaedong, since no one knows the secret of his zvz, and I don't think he's made a big impact in other match-ups.

Biggest impact on the game as an eSport? Boxer.
good post.
Most achieved to date is Nada.
Best in absolute skill Jaedong/Bisu/Flash (can be one on one day and one on another)
Highest relative skill arguably iloveoov, although this is a tough call.
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Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bearded Elder29903 Posts
June 29 2009 21:52 GMT
#59
On June 30 2009 06:44 Djabanete wrote:
Jaedong and Bisu are the best players of right now.

Could any "best" players from previous years beat them in a Bo5?

No.

Jaedong and Bisu are the best players of all time.

Could Your JD and Bisu be able to beat Boxer/NaDa/rA in a Bo5, let's say 2 years ago?

No.
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Lucktar
Profile Joined July 2008
United States526 Posts
June 29 2009 21:54 GMT
#60
Nada = best ever. He was kicking ass when Jaedong and Flash were still in elementary school.
NaDa, much, ZerO fighting!
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