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is awesome32269 Posts
So the state is discriminating individuals for being gay? I know that society is.
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Well what a shocker.
After 15 pages, I found out that nearly everybody worth respecting on teamliquid isn't a discriminating biggot and alot of people who I've never seen post before are biggots.
I can't believe in this day and age that you guys actually still don't realize that withholding civil rights from people holds ALL of us back.
While your at it go call a blackman a boy, a chinese girl yellowtang and spit on a cripple.
Some of you are just flat out sickening =(.
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On May 30 2009 12:53 IntoTheWow wrote:Show nested quote +On May 30 2009 12:47 Aegraen wrote:On May 30 2009 12:47 IntoTheWow wrote:
No one if forcing your belief system.
Catholicism is based on understanding. So why should the other one's beliefs make you feel any wrong. As long as your beliefs are are respected, i don't see why YOU should force the rest to do what YOU believe. Homosexuality in catholicism is a sin. A sin is very, very bad. You clearly have not been instructed on catholicism lol. Though catholicism encourages their followers to spread the word of Jesus, they do respect other views. They do try to spread their beliefs, but with the support of logic (something you reject it seems), that's why the words of Thomas Aquinas are so important. Catholicism believes that if you didn't come to face the true of their beliefs by your own means, you are free of sin (short version of you "won't go to hell"). It only becomes a sin if you believe/know about it and choose to ignore it. keyword: choice.
Wait, so you are saying they are trying to spread the word of the bible with logic? Exactly, what parts of the bible are known for their use of logic?
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On May 30 2009 12:52 jeppew wrote:Show nested quote +On May 30 2009 12:44 scwizard wrote:On May 30 2009 12:40 jeppew wrote:On May 30 2009 12:38 Aegraen wrote:On May 30 2009 12:33 IntoTheWow wrote:On May 30 2009 12:29 Aegraen wrote:On May 30 2009 12:26 DamageControL wrote:On May 30 2009 12:23 Aegraen wrote:On May 30 2009 12:17 DamageControL wrote:On May 30 2009 12:15 Aegraen wrote:
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You seriously believe two non-human females can fuck? Fuck means copulation. Copulation means sexual intercourse.
In the animal kingdom, it is impossible for two females to fuck, period. If they could, it would go against every single thing we know. Dictionary.com Main Entry: sexual intercourse Function: noun 1 : heterosexual intercourse involving penetration of the vagina by the penis : COITUS 2 : intercourse involving genital contact between individuals other than penetration of the vagina by the penis Merriam-Webster is the most reputable dictionary there is for the english language, and is generally considered the only. Main Entry: sexual intercourse Function: noun Date: 1799 1 : heterosexual intercourse involving penetration of the vagina by the penis : coitus 2 : intercourse ( as anal or oral intercourse) that does not involve penetration of the vagina by the penis Uh proof that it's the only? besides your claim? btw: the source on dictionary.com for MY definition is Merriam-Webster's Medical Dictionary, © 2002 Merriam-Webster, Inc. I used the actual Merriam-Webster website. http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary On May 30 2009 12:23 Aegraen wrote:On May 30 2009 12:17 DamageControL wrote:On May 30 2009 12:15 Aegraen wrote:On May 30 2009 12:12 Archerofaiur wrote:
You said 50$. Its ok though cause everyone knew you were
A) wrong when you made that statement and
B) not the kind of person who would follow through on his word anyway You seriously believe two non-human females can fuck? Fuck means copulation. Copulation means sexual intercourse. In the animal kingdom, it is impossible for two females to fuck, period. If they could, it would go against every single thing we know. Dictionary.com Main Entry: sexual intercourse Function: noun 1 : heterosexual intercourse involving penetration of the vagina by the penis : COITUS 2 : intercourse involving genital contact between individuals other than penetration of the vagina by the penis Merriam-Webster is the most reputable dictionary there is for the english language, and is generally considered the only. Main Entry: sexual intercourse Function: noun Date: 1799 1 : heterosexual intercourse involving penetration of the vagina by the penis : coitus 2 : intercourse ( as anal or oral intercourse) that does not involve penetration of the vagina by the penis Yeah, funny how you chose to leave the 3rd definition out. There is no third definition. As long as we going by merriam-webster, and intercourse is defined as such, I would say yes, then I am wrong. Too bad others can't admit when they are ever wrong. Anyways, rubbing genitals together, as defined as intercourse, however they can't reproduce. and going back to the original discussion, how is reproduction important to marriage? Well, to begin with it's the reason marriage exists in the first place. it is? really? are you allowed to marry when you can't or won't have children?
These days marriage has evolved into something else for some people, but historically getting married was intrinsically tied to reproduction. Hence the tradition of consummating marriages.
"Its [consummation's] legal significance arises from theories of marriage as having the purpose of producing legally recognized descendants of the partners"
On May 30 2009 12:54 Nadagast wrote:
An evolutionary argument can be made that reproduction is the reason everything about humans exists and functions how it does in the first place...
Exactly.
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Sucks that prop 8 was upheld, but gay marriage is inevitable and I don't think it'll be too long before it's a reality.
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On May 30 2009 12:56 Aegraen wrote:Show nested quote +On May 30 2009 12:53 IntoTheWow wrote:On May 30 2009 12:47 Aegraen wrote:On May 30 2009 12:47 IntoTheWow wrote:
No one if forcing your belief system.
Catholicism is based on understanding. So why should the other one's beliefs make you feel any wrong. As long as your beliefs are are respected, i don't see why YOU should force the rest to do what YOU believe. Homosexuality in catholicism is a sin. A sin is very, very bad. You clearly have not been instructed on catholicism lol. Though catholicism encourages their followers to spread the word of Jesus, they do respect other views. They do try to spread their beliefs, but with the support of logic (something you reject it seems), that's why the words of Thomas Aquinas are so important. Catholicism believes that if you didn't come to face the true of their beliefs by your own means, you are free of sin (short version of you "won't go to hell"). It only becomes a sin if you believe/know about it and choose to ignore it. keyword: choice. Wait, so you are saying they are trying to spread the word of the bible with logic? Exactly, what parts of the bible are known for their use of logic?
The Golden Rule?
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On May 30 2009 12:57 scwizard wrote:Show nested quote +On May 30 2009 12:52 jeppew wrote:On May 30 2009 12:44 scwizard wrote:On May 30 2009 12:40 jeppew wrote:On May 30 2009 12:38 Aegraen wrote:On May 30 2009 12:33 IntoTheWow wrote:On May 30 2009 12:29 Aegraen wrote:On May 30 2009 12:26 DamageControL wrote:On May 30 2009 12:23 Aegraen wrote:On May 30 2009 12:17 DamageControL wrote:
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Dictionary.com
Main Entry: sexual intercourse
Function: noun
1 : heterosexual intercourse involving penetration of the vagina by the penis : COITUS
2 : intercourse involving genital contact between individuals other than penetration of the vagina by the penis
Merriam-Webster is the most reputable dictionary there is for the english language, and is generally considered the only. Main Entry: sexual intercourse Function: noun Date: 1799 1 : heterosexual intercourse involving penetration of the vagina by the penis : coitus 2 : intercourse ( as anal or oral intercourse) that does not involve penetration of the vagina by the penis Uh proof that it's the only? besides your claim? btw: the source on dictionary.com for MY definition is Merriam-Webster's Medical Dictionary, © 2002 Merriam-Webster, Inc. I used the actual Merriam-Webster website. http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary On May 30 2009 12:23 Aegraen wrote:On May 30 2009 12:17 DamageControL wrote:On May 30 2009 12:15 Aegraen wrote:On May 30 2009 12:12 Archerofaiur wrote:
You said 50$. Its ok though cause everyone knew you were
A) wrong when you made that statement and
B) not the kind of person who would follow through on his word anyway You seriously believe two non-human females can fuck? Fuck means copulation. Copulation means sexual intercourse. In the animal kingdom, it is impossible for two females to fuck, period. If they could, it would go against every single thing we know. Dictionary.com Main Entry: sexual intercourse Function: noun 1 : heterosexual intercourse involving penetration of the vagina by the penis : COITUS 2 : intercourse involving genital contact between individuals other than penetration of the vagina by the penis Merriam-Webster is the most reputable dictionary there is for the english language, and is generally considered the only. Main Entry: sexual intercourse Function: noun Date: 1799 1 : heterosexual intercourse involving penetration of the vagina by the penis : coitus 2 : intercourse ( as anal or oral intercourse) that does not involve penetration of the vagina by the penis Yeah, funny how you chose to leave the 3rd definition out. There is no third definition. As long as we going by merriam-webster, and intercourse is defined as such, I would say yes, then I am wrong. Too bad others can't admit when they are ever wrong. Anyways, rubbing genitals together, as defined as intercourse, however they can't reproduce. and going back to the original discussion, how is reproduction important to marriage? Well, to begin with it's the reason marriage exists in the first place. it is? really? are you allowed to marry when you can't or won't have children? These days marriage has evolved into something else for some people, but historically getting married was intrinsically tied to reproduction. Hence the tradition of consummating marriages. "Its [consummation's] legal significance arises from theories of marriage as having the purpose of producing legally recognized descendants of the partners"
are we talking about going back in time and introducing gay marriage?
old defenitions of marriage are irrelevant.
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On May 30 2009 12:56 AttackZerg wrote:
Well what a shocker.
After 15 pages, I found out that nearly everybody worth respecting on teamliquid isn't a discriminating biggot and alot of people who I've never seen post before are biggots.
I can't believe in this day and age that you guys actually still don't realize that withholding civil rights from people holds ALL of us back.
While your at it go call a blackman a boy, a chinese girl yellowtang and spit on a cripple.
Some of you are just flat out sickening =(.
/sigh Marriage is not a right. You have to acknowledge other groups of people when you go down this road. Are you going to accuse yourself of what you are accusing those against gay-marriage? (Favoring of one group, over another).
If marriage is a right, then are you going to be on the polygamists side, or NAMBLA's side?
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On May 30 2009 12:57 scwizard wrote:Show nested quote +On May 30 2009 12:52 jeppew wrote:On May 30 2009 12:44 scwizard wrote:On May 30 2009 12:40 jeppew wrote:On May 30 2009 12:38 Aegraen wrote:On May 30 2009 12:33 IntoTheWow wrote:On May 30 2009 12:29 Aegraen wrote:On May 30 2009 12:26 DamageControL wrote:On May 30 2009 12:23 Aegraen wrote:On May 30 2009 12:17 DamageControL wrote:
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Dictionary.com
Main Entry: sexual intercourse
Function: noun
1 : heterosexual intercourse involving penetration of the vagina by the penis : COITUS
2 : intercourse involving genital contact between individuals other than penetration of the vagina by the penis
Merriam-Webster is the most reputable dictionary there is for the english language, and is generally considered the only. Main Entry: sexual intercourse Function: noun Date: 1799 1 : heterosexual intercourse involving penetration of the vagina by the penis : coitus 2 : intercourse ( as anal or oral intercourse) that does not involve penetration of the vagina by the penis Uh proof that it's the only? besides your claim? btw: the source on dictionary.com for MY definition is Merriam-Webster's Medical Dictionary, © 2002 Merriam-Webster, Inc. I used the actual Merriam-Webster website. http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary On May 30 2009 12:23 Aegraen wrote:On May 30 2009 12:17 DamageControL wrote:On May 30 2009 12:15 Aegraen wrote:On May 30 2009 12:12 Archerofaiur wrote:
You said 50$. Its ok though cause everyone knew you were
A) wrong when you made that statement and
B) not the kind of person who would follow through on his word anyway You seriously believe two non-human females can fuck? Fuck means copulation. Copulation means sexual intercourse. In the animal kingdom, it is impossible for two females to fuck, period. If they could, it would go against every single thing we know. Dictionary.com Main Entry: sexual intercourse Function: noun 1 : heterosexual intercourse involving penetration of the vagina by the penis : COITUS 2 : intercourse involving genital contact between individuals other than penetration of the vagina by the penis Merriam-Webster is the most reputable dictionary there is for the english language, and is generally considered the only. Main Entry: sexual intercourse Function: noun Date: 1799 1 : heterosexual intercourse involving penetration of the vagina by the penis : coitus 2 : intercourse ( as anal or oral intercourse) that does not involve penetration of the vagina by the penis Yeah, funny how you chose to leave the 3rd definition out. There is no third definition. As long as we going by merriam-webster, and intercourse is defined as such, I would say yes, then I am wrong. Too bad others can't admit when they are ever wrong. Anyways, rubbing genitals together, as defined as intercourse, however they can't reproduce. and going back to the original discussion, how is reproduction important to marriage? Well, to begin with it's the reason marriage exists in the first place. it is? really? are you allowed to marry when you can't or won't have children? These days marriage has evolved into something else for some people, but historically getting married was intrinsically tied to reproduction. Hence the tradition of consummating marriages. "Its [consummation's] legal significance arises from theories of marriage as having the purpose of producing legally recognized descendants of the partners" Show nested quote +On May 30 2009 12:54 Nadagast wrote:
An evolutionary argument can be made that reproduction is the reason everything about humans exists and functions how it does in the first place... Exactly.
My entire point was that your point was unnecessary
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Not granting gays the same marriage rights is straight up discrimination. End of story.
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On May 30 2009 12:58 jeppew wrote:Show nested quote +On May 30 2009 12:57 scwizard wrote:On May 30 2009 12:52 jeppew wrote:On May 30 2009 12:44 scwizard wrote:On May 30 2009 12:40 jeppew wrote:On May 30 2009 12:38 Aegraen wrote:On May 30 2009 12:33 IntoTheWow wrote:On May 30 2009 12:29 Aegraen wrote:On May 30 2009 12:26 DamageControL wrote:On May 30 2009 12:23 Aegraen wrote:
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Merriam-Webster is the most reputable dictionary there is for the english language, and is generally considered the only.
Main Entry: sexual intercourse
Function: noun
Date: 1799
1 : heterosexual intercourse involving penetration of the vagina by the penis : coitus
2 : intercourse (as anal or oral intercourse) that does not involve penetration of the vagina by the penis
Uh proof that it's the only? besides your claim? btw: the source on dictionary.com for MY definition is Merriam-Webster's Medical Dictionary, © 2002 Merriam-Webster, Inc. I used the actual Merriam-Webster website. http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary On May 30 2009 12:23 Aegraen wrote:On May 30 2009 12:17 DamageControL wrote:On May 30 2009 12:15 Aegraen wrote:
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You seriously believe two non-human females can fuck? Fuck means copulation. Copulation means sexual intercourse.
In the animal kingdom, it is impossible for two females to fuck, period. If they could, it would go against every single thing we know. Dictionary.com Main Entry: sexual intercourse Function: noun 1 : heterosexual intercourse involving penetration of the vagina by the penis : COITUS 2 : intercourse involving genital contact between individuals other than penetration of the vagina by the penis Merriam-Webster is the most reputable dictionary there is for the english language, and is generally considered the only. Main Entry: sexual intercourse Function: noun Date: 1799 1 : heterosexual intercourse involving penetration of the vagina by the penis : coitus 2 : intercourse ( as anal or oral intercourse) that does not involve penetration of the vagina by the penis Yeah, funny how you chose to leave the 3rd definition out. There is no third definition. As long as we going by merriam-webster, and intercourse is defined as such, I would say yes, then I am wrong. Too bad others can't admit when they are ever wrong. Anyways, rubbing genitals together, as defined as intercourse, however they can't reproduce. and going back to the original discussion, how is reproduction important to marriage? Well, to begin with it's the reason marriage exists in the first place. it is? really? are you allowed to marry when you can't or won't have children? These days marriage has evolved into something else for some people, but historically getting married was intrinsically tied to reproduction. Hence the tradition of consummating marriages. "Its [consummation's] legal significance arises from theories of marriage as having the purpose of producing legally recognized descendants of the partners" are we talking about going back in time and introducing gay marriage? old defenitions of marriage are irrelevant.
I agree with you completely. Marriage has evolved over time and I would like to see it continue to evolve. I'm hoping the popular definition of marriage will evolve into something that encompasses unions of love between two or more partners of the of any combination of sexes.
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On May 30 2009 12:58 Mindcrime wrote:Show nested quote +On May 30 2009 12:56 Aegraen wrote:On May 30 2009 12:53 IntoTheWow wrote:On May 30 2009 12:47 Aegraen wrote:On May 30 2009 12:47 IntoTheWow wrote:
No one if forcing your belief system.
Catholicism is based on understanding. So why should the other one's beliefs make you feel any wrong. As long as your beliefs are are respected, i don't see why YOU should force the rest to do what YOU believe. Homosexuality in catholicism is a sin. A sin is very, very bad. You clearly have not been instructed on catholicism lol. Though catholicism encourages their followers to spread the word of Jesus, they do respect other views. They do try to spread their beliefs, but with the support of logic (something you reject it seems), that's why the words of Thomas Aquinas are so important. Catholicism believes that if you didn't come to face the true of their beliefs by your own means, you are free of sin (short version of you "won't go to hell"). It only becomes a sin if you believe/know about it and choose to ignore it. keyword: choice. Wait, so you are saying they are trying to spread the word of the bible with logic? Exactly, what parts of the bible are known for their use of logic? The Golden Rule?
Golden rule is philosophical, not logical.
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On May 30 2009 13:00 keV. wrote:
Not granting gays the same marriage rights is straight up discrimination. End of story.
Are you with me with abolishing Affirmative Action, minority favoring (free college, etc.), and other forms of governmental discrimination?
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is awesome32269 Posts
On May 30 2009 12:56 Aegraen wrote:Show nested quote +On May 30 2009 12:53 IntoTheWow wrote:On May 30 2009 12:47 Aegraen wrote:On May 30 2009 12:47 IntoTheWow wrote:
No one if forcing your belief system.
Catholicism is based on understanding. So why should the other one's beliefs make you feel any wrong. As long as your beliefs are are respected, i don't see why YOU should force the rest to do what YOU believe. Homosexuality in catholicism is a sin. A sin is very, very bad. You clearly have not been instructed on catholicism lol. Though catholicism encourages their followers to spread the word of Jesus, they do respect other views. They do try to spread their beliefs, but with the support of logic (something you reject it seems), that's why the words of Thomas Aquinas are so important. Catholicism believes that if you didn't come to face the true of their beliefs by your own means, you are free of sin (short version of you "won't go to hell"). It only becomes a sin if you believe/know about it and choose to ignore it. keyword: choice. Wait, so you are saying they are trying to spread the word of the bible with logic? Exactly, what parts of the bible are known for their use of logic?
You see, a belief starts with an axiom. From there everything it's obtained due to logic (With the help of data, historical data in this case).
Why do you think all religions base themselves on documents, historical data and logical arguments so much? Because they can ignore it while it's not there (Due to their axioms). But once religion goes against logic, it must change it's paradigm, or die against it.
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On May 30 2009 13:00 Aegraen wrote:Show nested quote +On May 30 2009 12:58 Mindcrime wrote:On May 30 2009 12:56 Aegraen wrote:On May 30 2009 12:53 IntoTheWow wrote:On May 30 2009 12:47 Aegraen wrote:On May 30 2009 12:47 IntoTheWow wrote:
No one if forcing your belief system.
Catholicism is based on understanding. So why should the other one's beliefs make you feel any wrong. As long as your beliefs are are respected, i don't see why YOU should force the rest to do what YOU believe. Homosexuality in catholicism is a sin. A sin is very, very bad. You clearly have not been instructed on catholicism lol. Though catholicism encourages their followers to spread the word of Jesus, they do respect other views. They do try to spread their beliefs, but with the support of logic (something you reject it seems), that's why the words of Thomas Aquinas are so important. Catholicism believes that if you didn't come to face the true of their beliefs by your own means, you are free of sin (short version of you "won't go to hell"). It only becomes a sin if you believe/know about it and choose to ignore it. keyword: choice. Wait, so you are saying they are trying to spread the word of the bible with logic? Exactly, what parts of the bible are known for their use of logic? The Golden Rule? Golden rule is philosophical, not logical. Uh....philosophy is based on logic.
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On May 30 2009 13:00 Aegraen wrote:Show nested quote +On May 30 2009 12:58 Mindcrime wrote:On May 30 2009 12:56 Aegraen wrote:On May 30 2009 12:53 IntoTheWow wrote:On May 30 2009 12:47 Aegraen wrote:On May 30 2009 12:47 IntoTheWow wrote:
No one if forcing your belief system.
Catholicism is based on understanding. So why should the other one's beliefs make you feel any wrong. As long as your beliefs are are respected, i don't see why YOU should force the rest to do what YOU believe. Homosexuality in catholicism is a sin. A sin is very, very bad. You clearly have not been instructed on catholicism lol. Though catholicism encourages their followers to spread the word of Jesus, they do respect other views. They do try to spread their beliefs, but with the support of logic (something you reject it seems), that's why the words of Thomas Aquinas are so important. Catholicism believes that if you didn't come to face the true of their beliefs by your own means, you are free of sin (short version of you "won't go to hell"). It only becomes a sin if you believe/know about it and choose to ignore it. keyword: choice. Wait, so you are saying they are trying to spread the word of the bible with logic? Exactly, what parts of the bible are known for their use of logic? The Golden Rule? Golden rule is philosophical, not logical.
rofl wat
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On May 30 2009 12:59 Aegraen wrote:Show nested quote +On May 30 2009 12:56 AttackZerg wrote:
Well what a shocker.
After 15 pages, I found out that nearly everybody worth respecting on teamliquid isn't a discriminating biggot and alot of people who I've never seen post before are biggots.
I can't believe in this day and age that you guys actually still don't realize that withholding civil rights from people holds ALL of us back.
While your at it go call a blackman a boy, a chinese girl yellowtang and spit on a cripple.
Some of you are just flat out sickening =(. /sigh Marriage is not a right. You have to acknowledge other groups of people when you go down this road. Are you going to accuse yourself of what you are accusing those against gay-marriage? (Favoring of one group, over another). If marriage is a right, then are you going to be on the polygamists side, or NAMBLA's side?
you have the right to vote, but you can't vote when you're young and you can't vote several times.
even if it's a right there are restrictions to it.
don't try making it look like same sex marriage is advocating pedophelia.
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On May 30 2009 13:03 DamageControL wrote:Show nested quote +On May 30 2009 13:00 Aegraen wrote:On May 30 2009 12:58 Mindcrime wrote:On May 30 2009 12:56 Aegraen wrote:On May 30 2009 12:53 IntoTheWow wrote:On May 30 2009 12:47 Aegraen wrote:On May 30 2009 12:47 IntoTheWow wrote:
No one if forcing your belief system.
Catholicism is based on understanding. So why should the other one's beliefs make you feel any wrong. As long as your beliefs are are respected, i don't see why YOU should force the rest to do what YOU believe. Homosexuality in catholicism is a sin. A sin is very, very bad. You clearly have not been instructed on catholicism lol. Though catholicism encourages their followers to spread the word of Jesus, they do respect other views. They do try to spread their beliefs, but with the support of logic (something you reject it seems), that's why the words of Thomas Aquinas are so important. Catholicism believes that if you didn't come to face the true of their beliefs by your own means, you are free of sin (short version of you "won't go to hell"). It only becomes a sin if you believe/know about it and choose to ignore it. keyword: choice. Wait, so you are saying they are trying to spread the word of the bible with logic? Exactly, what parts of the bible are known for their use of logic? The Golden Rule? Golden rule is philosophical, not logical. Uh....philosophy is based on logic.
Some philosophy is based on logic. Some philosophy critiques logic (such as Kant *barf*)
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On May 30 2009 13:02 IntoTheWow wrote:Show nested quote +On May 30 2009 12:56 Aegraen wrote:On May 30 2009 12:53 IntoTheWow wrote:On May 30 2009 12:47 Aegraen wrote:On May 30 2009 12:47 IntoTheWow wrote:
No one if forcing your belief system.
Catholicism is based on understanding. So why should the other one's beliefs make you feel any wrong. As long as your beliefs are are respected, i don't see why YOU should force the rest to do what YOU believe. Homosexuality in catholicism is a sin. A sin is very, very bad. You clearly have not been instructed on catholicism lol. Though catholicism encourages their followers to spread the word of Jesus, they do respect other views. They do try to spread their beliefs, but with the support of logic (something you reject it seems), that's why the words of Thomas Aquinas are so important. Catholicism believes that if you didn't come to face the true of their beliefs by your own means, you are free of sin (short version of you "won't go to hell"). It only becomes a sin if you believe/know about it and choose to ignore it. keyword: choice. Wait, so you are saying they are trying to spread the word of the bible with logic? Exactly, what parts of the bible are known for their use of logic? You see, a belief starts with an axiom. From there everything it's obtained due to logic (With the help of data, historical data in this case). Why do you think all religions base themselves on documents, historical data and logical arguments so much? Because they can ignore it while it's not there (Due to their axioms). But once religion goes against logic, it must change it's paradigm, or die against it.
What? Faith is antithetical to logic. Religion is built upon faith.
So, I guess jonah and the whale, adam and eve, jesus ressurecting, are all built upon logical arguements, historical data, and documentation of events.
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On May 30 2009 13:01 Aegraen wrote:Show nested quote +On May 30 2009 13:00 keV. wrote:
Not granting gays the same marriage rights is straight up discrimination. End of story. Are you with me with abolishing Affirmative Action, minority favoring (free college, etc.), and other forms of governmental discrimination?
Yes.
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