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IntoTheWow
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
is awesome32274 Posts
May 30 2009 03:44 GMT
#281
On May 30 2009 12:38 Aegraen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2009 12:33 IntoTheWow wrote:
On May 30 2009 12:29 Aegraen wrote:
On May 30 2009 12:26 DamageControL wrote:
On May 30 2009 12:23 Aegraen wrote:
On May 30 2009 12:17 DamageControL wrote:
On May 30 2009 12:15 Aegraen wrote:
On May 30 2009 12:12 Archerofaiur wrote:
You said 50$. Its ok though cause everyone knew you were

A) wrong when you made that statement and

B) not the kind of person who would follow through on his word anyway


You seriously believe two non-human females can fuck? Fuck means copulation. Copulation means sexual intercourse.

In the animal kingdom, it is impossible for two females to fuck, period. If they could, it would go against every single thing we know.

Dictionary.com

Main Entry: sexual intercourse
Function: noun
1 : heterosexual intercourse involving penetration of the vagina by the penis : COITUS
2 : intercourse involving genital contact between individuals other than penetration of the vagina by the penis



Merriam-Webster is the most reputable dictionary there is for the english language, and is generally considered the only.

Main Entry: sexual intercourse
Function: noun
Date: 1799
1 : heterosexual intercourse involving penetration of the vagina by the penis : coitus
2 : intercourse (as anal or oral intercourse) that does not involve penetration of the vagina by the penis

Uh proof that it's the only? besides your claim?
btw: the source on dictionary.com for MY definition is
Merriam-Webster's Medical Dictionary, © 2002 Merriam-Webster, Inc.


I used the actual Merriam-Webster website.

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary


On May 30 2009 12:23 Aegraen wrote:
On May 30 2009 12:17 DamageControL wrote:
On May 30 2009 12:15 Aegraen wrote:
On May 30 2009 12:12 Archerofaiur wrote:
You said 50$. Its ok though cause everyone knew you were

A) wrong when you made that statement and

B) not the kind of person who would follow through on his word anyway


You seriously believe two non-human females can fuck? Fuck means copulation. Copulation means sexual intercourse.

In the animal kingdom, it is impossible for two females to fuck, period. If they could, it would go against every single thing we know.

Dictionary.com

Main Entry: sexual intercourse
Function: noun
1 : heterosexual intercourse involving penetration of the vagina by the penis : COITUS
2 : intercourse involving genital contact between individuals other than penetration of the vagina by the penis



Merriam-Webster is the most reputable dictionary there is for the english language, and is generally considered the only.

Main Entry: sexual intercourse
Function: noun
Date: 1799
1 : heterosexual intercourse involving penetration of the vagina by the penis : coitus
2 : intercourse (as anal or oral intercourse) that does not involve penetration of the vagina by the penis



Yeah, funny how you chose to leave the 3rd definition out.


There is no third definition. As long as we going by merriam-webster, and intercourse is defined as such, I would say yes, then I am wrong. Too bad others can't admit when they are ever wrong.

Anyways, rubbing genitals together, as defined as intercourse, however they can't reproduce.


We have come a long way since the stone age. We can reproduce without entering a penis inside a vagina.

How is sexual intercourse a major problem to create marriage? Why are you looking for nature examples on sex when marriage is a men creation? Elaborate please.
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scwizard
Profile Joined March 2009
United States1195 Posts
May 30 2009 03:44 GMT
#282
On May 30 2009 12:40 jeppew wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2009 12:38 Aegraen wrote:
On May 30 2009 12:33 IntoTheWow wrote:
On May 30 2009 12:29 Aegraen wrote:
On May 30 2009 12:26 DamageControL wrote:
On May 30 2009 12:23 Aegraen wrote:
On May 30 2009 12:17 DamageControL wrote:
On May 30 2009 12:15 Aegraen wrote:
On May 30 2009 12:12 Archerofaiur wrote:
You said 50$. Its ok though cause everyone knew you were

A) wrong when you made that statement and

B) not the kind of person who would follow through on his word anyway


You seriously believe two non-human females can fuck? Fuck means copulation. Copulation means sexual intercourse.

In the animal kingdom, it is impossible for two females to fuck, period. If they could, it would go against every single thing we know.

Dictionary.com

Main Entry: sexual intercourse
Function: noun
1 : heterosexual intercourse involving penetration of the vagina by the penis : COITUS
2 : intercourse involving genital contact between individuals other than penetration of the vagina by the penis



Merriam-Webster is the most reputable dictionary there is for the english language, and is generally considered the only.

Main Entry: sexual intercourse
Function: noun
Date: 1799
1 : heterosexual intercourse involving penetration of the vagina by the penis : coitus
2 : intercourse (as anal or oral intercourse) that does not involve penetration of the vagina by the penis

Uh proof that it's the only? besides your claim?
btw: the source on dictionary.com for MY definition is
Merriam-Webster's Medical Dictionary, © 2002 Merriam-Webster, Inc.


I used the actual Merriam-Webster website.

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary


On May 30 2009 12:23 Aegraen wrote:
On May 30 2009 12:17 DamageControL wrote:
On May 30 2009 12:15 Aegraen wrote:
On May 30 2009 12:12 Archerofaiur wrote:
You said 50$. Its ok though cause everyone knew you were

A) wrong when you made that statement and

B) not the kind of person who would follow through on his word anyway


You seriously believe two non-human females can fuck? Fuck means copulation. Copulation means sexual intercourse.

In the animal kingdom, it is impossible for two females to fuck, period. If they could, it would go against every single thing we know.

Dictionary.com

Main Entry: sexual intercourse
Function: noun
1 : heterosexual intercourse involving penetration of the vagina by the penis : COITUS
2 : intercourse involving genital contact between individuals other than penetration of the vagina by the penis



Merriam-Webster is the most reputable dictionary there is for the english language, and is generally considered the only.

Main Entry: sexual intercourse
Function: noun
Date: 1799
1 : heterosexual intercourse involving penetration of the vagina by the penis : coitus
2 : intercourse (as anal or oral intercourse) that does not involve penetration of the vagina by the penis



Yeah, funny how you chose to leave the 3rd definition out.


There is no third definition. As long as we going by merriam-webster, and intercourse is defined as such, I would say yes, then I am wrong. Too bad others can't admit when they are ever wrong.

Anyways, rubbing genitals together, as defined as intercourse, however they can't reproduce.

and going back to the original discussion, how is reproduction important to marriage?

Well, to begin with it's the reason marriage exists in the first place.
Aegraen
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States1225 Posts
May 30 2009 03:44 GMT
#283
On May 30 2009 12:40 jeppew wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2009 12:38 Aegraen wrote:
On May 30 2009 12:33 IntoTheWow wrote:
On May 30 2009 12:29 Aegraen wrote:
On May 30 2009 12:26 DamageControL wrote:
On May 30 2009 12:23 Aegraen wrote:
On May 30 2009 12:17 DamageControL wrote:
On May 30 2009 12:15 Aegraen wrote:
On May 30 2009 12:12 Archerofaiur wrote:
You said 50$. Its ok though cause everyone knew you were

A) wrong when you made that statement and

B) not the kind of person who would follow through on his word anyway


You seriously believe two non-human females can fuck? Fuck means copulation. Copulation means sexual intercourse.

In the animal kingdom, it is impossible for two females to fuck, period. If they could, it would go against every single thing we know.

Dictionary.com

Main Entry: sexual intercourse
Function: noun
1 : heterosexual intercourse involving penetration of the vagina by the penis : COITUS
2 : intercourse involving genital contact between individuals other than penetration of the vagina by the penis



Merriam-Webster is the most reputable dictionary there is for the english language, and is generally considered the only.

Main Entry: sexual intercourse
Function: noun
Date: 1799
1 : heterosexual intercourse involving penetration of the vagina by the penis : coitus
2 : intercourse (as anal or oral intercourse) that does not involve penetration of the vagina by the penis

Uh proof that it's the only? besides your claim?
btw: the source on dictionary.com for MY definition is
Merriam-Webster's Medical Dictionary, © 2002 Merriam-Webster, Inc.


I used the actual Merriam-Webster website.

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary


On May 30 2009 12:23 Aegraen wrote:
On May 30 2009 12:17 DamageControL wrote:
On May 30 2009 12:15 Aegraen wrote:
On May 30 2009 12:12 Archerofaiur wrote:
You said 50$. Its ok though cause everyone knew you were

A) wrong when you made that statement and

B) not the kind of person who would follow through on his word anyway


You seriously believe two non-human females can fuck? Fuck means copulation. Copulation means sexual intercourse.

In the animal kingdom, it is impossible for two females to fuck, period. If they could, it would go against every single thing we know.

Dictionary.com

Main Entry: sexual intercourse
Function: noun
1 : heterosexual intercourse involving penetration of the vagina by the penis : COITUS
2 : intercourse involving genital contact between individuals other than penetration of the vagina by the penis



Merriam-Webster is the most reputable dictionary there is for the english language, and is generally considered the only.

Main Entry: sexual intercourse
Function: noun
Date: 1799
1 : heterosexual intercourse involving penetration of the vagina by the penis : coitus
2 : intercourse (as anal or oral intercourse) that does not involve penetration of the vagina by the penis



Yeah, funny how you chose to leave the 3rd definition out.


There is no third definition. As long as we going by merriam-webster, and intercourse is defined as such, I would say yes, then I am wrong. Too bad others can't admit when they are ever wrong.

Anyways, rubbing genitals together, as defined as intercourse, however they can't reproduce.

and going back to the original discussion, how is reproduction important to marriage?


In context my dear. The true goal of the pro-gay marriage side is to normalize their actions and make acceptable to society (80% of america are christians, and while not homogenous in beliefs, catholicism the main denomination makes up the majority of christians). Not the obtaining of state derived benefits, though this is one goal, not the goal.

In other words, it's a battle of religion whether you want to see it that way or not. Personally, I think it's pretty fascist to force your belief system on other's when there is no right being infringed upon. Again, I believe there should be no, state derived benefits for marriage or civil unions.
"It is easy to be conspicuously 'compassionate' if others are being forced to pay the cost." -- Murray N. Rothbard -- Rand Paul 2010 -- Ron Paul 2012
IntoTheWow
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
is awesome32274 Posts
May 30 2009 03:47 GMT
#284
No one if forcing your belief system.

Catholicism is based on understanding. So why should the other one's beliefs make you feel any wrong. As long as your beliefs are are respected, i don't see why YOU should force the rest to do what YOU believe.
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DamageControL
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States4222 Posts
May 30 2009 03:47 GMT
#285
On May 30 2009 12:44 Aegraen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2009 12:40 jeppew wrote:
On May 30 2009 12:38 Aegraen wrote:
On May 30 2009 12:33 IntoTheWow wrote:
On May 30 2009 12:29 Aegraen wrote:
On May 30 2009 12:26 DamageControL wrote:
On May 30 2009 12:23 Aegraen wrote:
On May 30 2009 12:17 DamageControL wrote:
On May 30 2009 12:15 Aegraen wrote:
On May 30 2009 12:12 Archerofaiur wrote:
You said 50$. Its ok though cause everyone knew you were

A) wrong when you made that statement and

B) not the kind of person who would follow through on his word anyway


You seriously believe two non-human females can fuck? Fuck means copulation. Copulation means sexual intercourse.

In the animal kingdom, it is impossible for two females to fuck, period. If they could, it would go against every single thing we know.

Dictionary.com

Main Entry: sexual intercourse
Function: noun
1 : heterosexual intercourse involving penetration of the vagina by the penis : COITUS
2 : intercourse involving genital contact between individuals other than penetration of the vagina by the penis



Merriam-Webster is the most reputable dictionary there is for the english language, and is generally considered the only.

Main Entry: sexual intercourse
Function: noun
Date: 1799
1 : heterosexual intercourse involving penetration of the vagina by the penis : coitus
2 : intercourse (as anal or oral intercourse) that does not involve penetration of the vagina by the penis

Uh proof that it's the only? besides your claim?
btw: the source on dictionary.com for MY definition is
Merriam-Webster's Medical Dictionary, © 2002 Merriam-Webster, Inc.


I used the actual Merriam-Webster website.

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary


On May 30 2009 12:23 Aegraen wrote:
On May 30 2009 12:17 DamageControL wrote:
On May 30 2009 12:15 Aegraen wrote:
On May 30 2009 12:12 Archerofaiur wrote:
You said 50$. Its ok though cause everyone knew you were

A) wrong when you made that statement and

B) not the kind of person who would follow through on his word anyway


You seriously believe two non-human females can fuck? Fuck means copulation. Copulation means sexual intercourse.

In the animal kingdom, it is impossible for two females to fuck, period. If they could, it would go against every single thing we know.

Dictionary.com

Main Entry: sexual intercourse
Function: noun
1 : heterosexual intercourse involving penetration of the vagina by the penis : COITUS
2 : intercourse involving genital contact between individuals other than penetration of the vagina by the penis



Merriam-Webster is the most reputable dictionary there is for the english language, and is generally considered the only.

Main Entry: sexual intercourse
Function: noun
Date: 1799
1 : heterosexual intercourse involving penetration of the vagina by the penis : coitus
2 : intercourse (as anal or oral intercourse) that does not involve penetration of the vagina by the penis



Yeah, funny how you chose to leave the 3rd definition out.


There is no third definition. As long as we going by merriam-webster, and intercourse is defined as such, I would say yes, then I am wrong. Too bad others can't admit when they are ever wrong.

Anyways, rubbing genitals together, as defined as intercourse, however they can't reproduce.

and going back to the original discussion, how is reproduction important to marriage?


In context my dear. The true goal of the pro-gay marriage side is to normalize their actions and make acceptable to society (80% of america are christians, and while not homogenous in beliefs, catholicism the main denomination makes up the majority of christians). Not the obtaining of state derived benefits, though this is one goal, not the goal.

In other words, it's a battle of religion whether you want to see it that way or not. Personally, I think it's pretty fascist to force your belief system on other's when there is no right being infringed upon. Again, I believe there should be no, state derived benefits for marriage or civil unions.

No it's not a battle of religion. See, gays do want to have their ways "normalized" as you put it, but that's not what this is about. Marriage is civil and therefore this should be based on civil ideals (secularism) instead of cultural ideals.
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Aegraen
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States1225 Posts
May 30 2009 03:47 GMT
#286
On May 30 2009 12:47 IntoTheWow wrote:
No one if forcing your belief system.

Catholicism is based on understanding. So why should the other one's beliefs make you feel any wrong. As long as your beliefs are are respected, i don't see why YOU should force the rest to do what YOU believe.


Homosexuality in catholicism is a sin. A sin is very, very bad.
"It is easy to be conspicuously 'compassionate' if others are being forced to pay the cost." -- Murray N. Rothbard -- Rand Paul 2010 -- Ron Paul 2012
scwizard
Profile Joined March 2009
United States1195 Posts
May 30 2009 03:48 GMT
#287
On May 30 2009 12:44 Aegraen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2009 12:40 jeppew wrote:
On May 30 2009 12:38 Aegraen wrote:
On May 30 2009 12:33 IntoTheWow wrote:
On May 30 2009 12:29 Aegraen wrote:
On May 30 2009 12:26 DamageControL wrote:
On May 30 2009 12:23 Aegraen wrote:
On May 30 2009 12:17 DamageControL wrote:
On May 30 2009 12:15 Aegraen wrote:
On May 30 2009 12:12 Archerofaiur wrote:
You said 50$. Its ok though cause everyone knew you were

A) wrong when you made that statement and

B) not the kind of person who would follow through on his word anyway


You seriously believe two non-human females can fuck? Fuck means copulation. Copulation means sexual intercourse.

In the animal kingdom, it is impossible for two females to fuck, period. If they could, it would go against every single thing we know.

Dictionary.com

Main Entry: sexual intercourse
Function: noun
1 : heterosexual intercourse involving penetration of the vagina by the penis : COITUS
2 : intercourse involving genital contact between individuals other than penetration of the vagina by the penis



Merriam-Webster is the most reputable dictionary there is for the english language, and is generally considered the only.

Main Entry: sexual intercourse
Function: noun
Date: 1799
1 : heterosexual intercourse involving penetration of the vagina by the penis : coitus
2 : intercourse (as anal or oral intercourse) that does not involve penetration of the vagina by the penis

Uh proof that it's the only? besides your claim?
btw: the source on dictionary.com for MY definition is
Merriam-Webster's Medical Dictionary, © 2002 Merriam-Webster, Inc.


I used the actual Merriam-Webster website.

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary


On May 30 2009 12:23 Aegraen wrote:
On May 30 2009 12:17 DamageControL wrote:
On May 30 2009 12:15 Aegraen wrote:
On May 30 2009 12:12 Archerofaiur wrote:
You said 50$. Its ok though cause everyone knew you were

A) wrong when you made that statement and

B) not the kind of person who would follow through on his word anyway


You seriously believe two non-human females can fuck? Fuck means copulation. Copulation means sexual intercourse.

In the animal kingdom, it is impossible for two females to fuck, period. If they could, it would go against every single thing we know.

Dictionary.com

Main Entry: sexual intercourse
Function: noun
1 : heterosexual intercourse involving penetration of the vagina by the penis : COITUS
2 : intercourse involving genital contact between individuals other than penetration of the vagina by the penis



Merriam-Webster is the most reputable dictionary there is for the english language, and is generally considered the only.

Main Entry: sexual intercourse
Function: noun
Date: 1799
1 : heterosexual intercourse involving penetration of the vagina by the penis : coitus
2 : intercourse (as anal or oral intercourse) that does not involve penetration of the vagina by the penis



Yeah, funny how you chose to leave the 3rd definition out.


There is no third definition. As long as we going by merriam-webster, and intercourse is defined as such, I would say yes, then I am wrong. Too bad others can't admit when they are ever wrong.

Anyways, rubbing genitals together, as defined as intercourse, however they can't reproduce.

and going back to the original discussion, how is reproduction important to marriage?

I think it's pretty fascist to force your belief system on other's when there is no right being infringed upon.

Well in California the majority is forcing their belief that marriage is between a man and a woman on the minority. What makes that not also fascist?
Nadagast
Profile Joined January 2009
United States245 Posts
May 30 2009 03:50 GMT
#288
On May 30 2009 12:47 Aegraen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2009 12:47 IntoTheWow wrote:
No one if forcing your belief system.

Catholicism is based on understanding. So why should the other one's beliefs make you feel any wrong. As long as your beliefs are are respected, i don't see why YOU should force the rest to do what YOU believe.


Homosexuality in catholicism is a sin. A sin is very, very bad.

You claim to be agnostic? lol
Jyvblamo
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada13788 Posts
May 30 2009 03:50 GMT
#289

Personally, I think it's pretty fascist to force your belief system on other's when there is no right being infringed upon.

So, you would be for gay marriage then.
Archerofaiur
Profile Joined August 2008
United States4101 Posts
May 30 2009 03:51 GMT
#290
On May 30 2009 12:44 scwizard wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2009 12:40 jeppew wrote:
On May 30 2009 12:38 Aegraen wrote:
On May 30 2009 12:33 IntoTheWow wrote:
On May 30 2009 12:29 Aegraen wrote:
On May 30 2009 12:26 DamageControL wrote:
On May 30 2009 12:23 Aegraen wrote:
On May 30 2009 12:17 DamageControL wrote:
On May 30 2009 12:15 Aegraen wrote:
On May 30 2009 12:12 Archerofaiur wrote:
You said 50$. Its ok though cause everyone knew you were

A) wrong when you made that statement and

B) not the kind of person who would follow through on his word anyway


You seriously believe two non-human females can fuck? Fuck means copulation. Copulation means sexual intercourse.

In the animal kingdom, it is impossible for two females to fuck, period. If they could, it would go against every single thing we know.

Dictionary.com

Main Entry: sexual intercourse
Function: noun
1 : heterosexual intercourse involving penetration of the vagina by the penis : COITUS
2 : intercourse involving genital contact between individuals other than penetration of the vagina by the penis



Merriam-Webster is the most reputable dictionary there is for the english language, and is generally considered the only.

Main Entry: sexual intercourse
Function: noun
Date: 1799
1 : heterosexual intercourse involving penetration of the vagina by the penis : coitus
2 : intercourse (as anal or oral intercourse) that does not involve penetration of the vagina by the penis

Uh proof that it's the only? besides your claim?
btw: the source on dictionary.com for MY definition is
Merriam-Webster's Medical Dictionary, © 2002 Merriam-Webster, Inc.


I used the actual Merriam-Webster website.

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary


On May 30 2009 12:23 Aegraen wrote:
On May 30 2009 12:17 DamageControL wrote:
On May 30 2009 12:15 Aegraen wrote:
On May 30 2009 12:12 Archerofaiur wrote:
You said 50$. Its ok though cause everyone knew you were

A) wrong when you made that statement and

B) not the kind of person who would follow through on his word anyway


You seriously believe two non-human females can fuck? Fuck means copulation. Copulation means sexual intercourse.

In the animal kingdom, it is impossible for two females to fuck, period. If they could, it would go against every single thing we know.

Dictionary.com

Main Entry: sexual intercourse
Function: noun
1 : heterosexual intercourse involving penetration of the vagina by the penis : COITUS
2 : intercourse involving genital contact between individuals other than penetration of the vagina by the penis



Merriam-Webster is the most reputable dictionary there is for the english language, and is generally considered the only.

Main Entry: sexual intercourse
Function: noun
Date: 1799
1 : heterosexual intercourse involving penetration of the vagina by the penis : coitus
2 : intercourse (as anal or oral intercourse) that does not involve penetration of the vagina by the penis



Yeah, funny how you chose to leave the 3rd definition out.


There is no third definition. As long as we going by merriam-webster, and intercourse is defined as such, I would say yes, then I am wrong. Too bad others can't admit when they are ever wrong.

Anyways, rubbing genitals together, as defined as intercourse, however they can't reproduce.

and going back to the original discussion, how is reproduction important to marriage?

Well, to begin with it's the reason marriage exists in the first place.



Not love.
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jeppew
Profile Joined April 2009
Sweden471 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-05-30 03:53:04
May 30 2009 03:51 GMT
#291
On May 30 2009 12:44 Aegraen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2009 12:40 jeppew wrote:
On May 30 2009 12:38 Aegraen wrote:
On May 30 2009 12:33 IntoTheWow wrote:
On May 30 2009 12:29 Aegraen wrote:
On May 30 2009 12:26 DamageControL wrote:
On May 30 2009 12:23 Aegraen wrote:
On May 30 2009 12:17 DamageControL wrote:
On May 30 2009 12:15 Aegraen wrote:
On May 30 2009 12:12 Archerofaiur wrote:
You said 50$. Its ok though cause everyone knew you were

A) wrong when you made that statement and

B) not the kind of person who would follow through on his word anyway


You seriously believe two non-human females can fuck? Fuck means copulation. Copulation means sexual intercourse.

In the animal kingdom, it is impossible for two females to fuck, period. If they could, it would go against every single thing we know.

Dictionary.com

Main Entry: sexual intercourse
Function: noun
1 : heterosexual intercourse involving penetration of the vagina by the penis : COITUS
2 : intercourse involving genital contact between individuals other than penetration of the vagina by the penis



Merriam-Webster is the most reputable dictionary there is for the english language, and is generally considered the only.

Main Entry: sexual intercourse
Function: noun
Date: 1799
1 : heterosexual intercourse involving penetration of the vagina by the penis : coitus
2 : intercourse (as anal or oral intercourse) that does not involve penetration of the vagina by the penis

Uh proof that it's the only? besides your claim?
btw: the source on dictionary.com for MY definition is
Merriam-Webster's Medical Dictionary, © 2002 Merriam-Webster, Inc.


I used the actual Merriam-Webster website.

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary


On May 30 2009 12:23 Aegraen wrote:
On May 30 2009 12:17 DamageControL wrote:
On May 30 2009 12:15 Aegraen wrote:
On May 30 2009 12:12 Archerofaiur wrote:
You said 50$. Its ok though cause everyone knew you were

A) wrong when you made that statement and

B) not the kind of person who would follow through on his word anyway


You seriously believe two non-human females can fuck? Fuck means copulation. Copulation means sexual intercourse.

In the animal kingdom, it is impossible for two females to fuck, period. If they could, it would go against every single thing we know.

Dictionary.com

Main Entry: sexual intercourse
Function: noun
1 : heterosexual intercourse involving penetration of the vagina by the penis : COITUS
2 : intercourse involving genital contact between individuals other than penetration of the vagina by the penis



Merriam-Webster is the most reputable dictionary there is for the english language, and is generally considered the only.

Main Entry: sexual intercourse
Function: noun
Date: 1799
1 : heterosexual intercourse involving penetration of the vagina by the penis : coitus
2 : intercourse (as anal or oral intercourse) that does not involve penetration of the vagina by the penis



Yeah, funny how you chose to leave the 3rd definition out.


There is no third definition. As long as we going by merriam-webster, and intercourse is defined as such, I would say yes, then I am wrong. Too bad others can't admit when they are ever wrong.

Anyways, rubbing genitals together, as defined as intercourse, however they can't reproduce.

and going back to the original discussion, how is reproduction important to marriage?


In context my dear. The true goal of the pro-gay marriage side is to normalize their actions and make acceptable to society (80% of america are christians, and while not homogenous in beliefs, catholicism the main denomination makes up the majority of christians). Not the obtaining of state derived benefits, though this is one goal, not the goal.

nice job completly dodging the question.
why is reproduction important to marriage?

In other words, it's a battle of religion whether you want to see it that way or not. Personally, I think it's pretty fascist to force your belief system on other's when there is no right being infringed upon. Again, I believe there should be no, state derived benefits for marriage or civil unions.


no one is forcing any chrisitan church to marry gay couples, no one is forcing any christian anything. Prop 8 is to remove gay marriage, it's imposing christian beliefs on them.
Aegraen
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States1225 Posts
May 30 2009 03:52 GMT
#292
On May 30 2009 12:48 scwizard wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2009 12:44 Aegraen wrote:
On May 30 2009 12:40 jeppew wrote:
On May 30 2009 12:38 Aegraen wrote:
On May 30 2009 12:33 IntoTheWow wrote:
On May 30 2009 12:29 Aegraen wrote:
On May 30 2009 12:26 DamageControL wrote:
On May 30 2009 12:23 Aegraen wrote:
On May 30 2009 12:17 DamageControL wrote:
On May 30 2009 12:15 Aegraen wrote:
[quote]

You seriously believe two non-human females can fuck? Fuck means copulation. Copulation means sexual intercourse.

In the animal kingdom, it is impossible for two females to fuck, period. If they could, it would go against every single thing we know.

Dictionary.com

Main Entry: sexual intercourse
Function: noun
1 : heterosexual intercourse involving penetration of the vagina by the penis : COITUS
2 : intercourse involving genital contact between individuals other than penetration of the vagina by the penis



Merriam-Webster is the most reputable dictionary there is for the english language, and is generally considered the only.

Main Entry: sexual intercourse
Function: noun
Date: 1799
1 : heterosexual intercourse involving penetration of the vagina by the penis : coitus
2 : intercourse (as anal or oral intercourse) that does not involve penetration of the vagina by the penis

Uh proof that it's the only? besides your claim?
btw: the source on dictionary.com for MY definition is
Merriam-Webster's Medical Dictionary, © 2002 Merriam-Webster, Inc.


I used the actual Merriam-Webster website.

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary


On May 30 2009 12:23 Aegraen wrote:
On May 30 2009 12:17 DamageControL wrote:
On May 30 2009 12:15 Aegraen wrote:
On May 30 2009 12:12 Archerofaiur wrote:
You said 50$. Its ok though cause everyone knew you were

A) wrong when you made that statement and

B) not the kind of person who would follow through on his word anyway


You seriously believe two non-human females can fuck? Fuck means copulation. Copulation means sexual intercourse.

In the animal kingdom, it is impossible for two females to fuck, period. If they could, it would go against every single thing we know.

Dictionary.com

Main Entry: sexual intercourse
Function: noun
1 : heterosexual intercourse involving penetration of the vagina by the penis : COITUS
2 : intercourse involving genital contact between individuals other than penetration of the vagina by the penis



Merriam-Webster is the most reputable dictionary there is for the english language, and is generally considered the only.

Main Entry: sexual intercourse
Function: noun
Date: 1799
1 : heterosexual intercourse involving penetration of the vagina by the penis : coitus
2 : intercourse (as anal or oral intercourse) that does not involve penetration of the vagina by the penis



Yeah, funny how you chose to leave the 3rd definition out.


There is no third definition. As long as we going by merriam-webster, and intercourse is defined as such, I would say yes, then I am wrong. Too bad others can't admit when they are ever wrong.

Anyways, rubbing genitals together, as defined as intercourse, however they can't reproduce.

and going back to the original discussion, how is reproduction important to marriage?

I think it's pretty fascist to force your belief system on other's when there is no right being infringed upon.

Well in California the majority is forcing their belief that marriage is between a man and a woman on the minority. What makes that not also fascist?


Marriage is not a right.
"It is easy to be conspicuously 'compassionate' if others are being forced to pay the cost." -- Murray N. Rothbard -- Rand Paul 2010 -- Ron Paul 2012
jeppew
Profile Joined April 2009
Sweden471 Posts
May 30 2009 03:52 GMT
#293
On May 30 2009 12:44 scwizard wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2009 12:40 jeppew wrote:
On May 30 2009 12:38 Aegraen wrote:
On May 30 2009 12:33 IntoTheWow wrote:
On May 30 2009 12:29 Aegraen wrote:
On May 30 2009 12:26 DamageControL wrote:
On May 30 2009 12:23 Aegraen wrote:
On May 30 2009 12:17 DamageControL wrote:
On May 30 2009 12:15 Aegraen wrote:
On May 30 2009 12:12 Archerofaiur wrote:
You said 50$. Its ok though cause everyone knew you were

A) wrong when you made that statement and

B) not the kind of person who would follow through on his word anyway


You seriously believe two non-human females can fuck? Fuck means copulation. Copulation means sexual intercourse.

In the animal kingdom, it is impossible for two females to fuck, period. If they could, it would go against every single thing we know.

Dictionary.com

Main Entry: sexual intercourse
Function: noun
1 : heterosexual intercourse involving penetration of the vagina by the penis : COITUS
2 : intercourse involving genital contact between individuals other than penetration of the vagina by the penis



Merriam-Webster is the most reputable dictionary there is for the english language, and is generally considered the only.

Main Entry: sexual intercourse
Function: noun
Date: 1799
1 : heterosexual intercourse involving penetration of the vagina by the penis : coitus
2 : intercourse (as anal or oral intercourse) that does not involve penetration of the vagina by the penis

Uh proof that it's the only? besides your claim?
btw: the source on dictionary.com for MY definition is
Merriam-Webster's Medical Dictionary, © 2002 Merriam-Webster, Inc.


I used the actual Merriam-Webster website.

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary


On May 30 2009 12:23 Aegraen wrote:
On May 30 2009 12:17 DamageControL wrote:
On May 30 2009 12:15 Aegraen wrote:
On May 30 2009 12:12 Archerofaiur wrote:
You said 50$. Its ok though cause everyone knew you were

A) wrong when you made that statement and

B) not the kind of person who would follow through on his word anyway


You seriously believe two non-human females can fuck? Fuck means copulation. Copulation means sexual intercourse.

In the animal kingdom, it is impossible for two females to fuck, period. If they could, it would go against every single thing we know.

Dictionary.com

Main Entry: sexual intercourse
Function: noun
1 : heterosexual intercourse involving penetration of the vagina by the penis : COITUS
2 : intercourse involving genital contact between individuals other than penetration of the vagina by the penis



Merriam-Webster is the most reputable dictionary there is for the english language, and is generally considered the only.

Main Entry: sexual intercourse
Function: noun
Date: 1799
1 : heterosexual intercourse involving penetration of the vagina by the penis : coitus
2 : intercourse (as anal or oral intercourse) that does not involve penetration of the vagina by the penis



Yeah, funny how you chose to leave the 3rd definition out.


There is no third definition. As long as we going by merriam-webster, and intercourse is defined as such, I would say yes, then I am wrong. Too bad others can't admit when they are ever wrong.

Anyways, rubbing genitals together, as defined as intercourse, however they can't reproduce.

and going back to the original discussion, how is reproduction important to marriage?

Well, to begin with it's the reason marriage exists in the first place.


it is? really? are you allowed to marry when you can't or won't have children?
scwizard
Profile Joined March 2009
United States1195 Posts
May 30 2009 03:52 GMT
#294
On May 30 2009 12:51 Archerofaiur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2009 12:44 scwizard wrote:
On May 30 2009 12:40 jeppew wrote:
On May 30 2009 12:38 Aegraen wrote:
On May 30 2009 12:33 IntoTheWow wrote:
On May 30 2009 12:29 Aegraen wrote:
On May 30 2009 12:26 DamageControL wrote:
On May 30 2009 12:23 Aegraen wrote:
On May 30 2009 12:17 DamageControL wrote:
On May 30 2009 12:15 Aegraen wrote:
[quote]

You seriously believe two non-human females can fuck? Fuck means copulation. Copulation means sexual intercourse.

In the animal kingdom, it is impossible for two females to fuck, period. If they could, it would go against every single thing we know.

Dictionary.com

Main Entry: sexual intercourse
Function: noun
1 : heterosexual intercourse involving penetration of the vagina by the penis : COITUS
2 : intercourse involving genital contact between individuals other than penetration of the vagina by the penis



Merriam-Webster is the most reputable dictionary there is for the english language, and is generally considered the only.

Main Entry: sexual intercourse
Function: noun
Date: 1799
1 : heterosexual intercourse involving penetration of the vagina by the penis : coitus
2 : intercourse (as anal or oral intercourse) that does not involve penetration of the vagina by the penis

Uh proof that it's the only? besides your claim?
btw: the source on dictionary.com for MY definition is
Merriam-Webster's Medical Dictionary, © 2002 Merriam-Webster, Inc.


I used the actual Merriam-Webster website.

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary


On May 30 2009 12:23 Aegraen wrote:
On May 30 2009 12:17 DamageControL wrote:
On May 30 2009 12:15 Aegraen wrote:
On May 30 2009 12:12 Archerofaiur wrote:
You said 50$. Its ok though cause everyone knew you were

A) wrong when you made that statement and

B) not the kind of person who would follow through on his word anyway


You seriously believe two non-human females can fuck? Fuck means copulation. Copulation means sexual intercourse.

In the animal kingdom, it is impossible for two females to fuck, period. If they could, it would go against every single thing we know.

Dictionary.com

Main Entry: sexual intercourse
Function: noun
1 : heterosexual intercourse involving penetration of the vagina by the penis : COITUS
2 : intercourse involving genital contact between individuals other than penetration of the vagina by the penis



Merriam-Webster is the most reputable dictionary there is for the english language, and is generally considered the only.

Main Entry: sexual intercourse
Function: noun
Date: 1799
1 : heterosexual intercourse involving penetration of the vagina by the penis : coitus
2 : intercourse (as anal or oral intercourse) that does not involve penetration of the vagina by the penis



Yeah, funny how you chose to leave the 3rd definition out.


There is no third definition. As long as we going by merriam-webster, and intercourse is defined as such, I would say yes, then I am wrong. Too bad others can't admit when they are ever wrong.

Anyways, rubbing genitals together, as defined as intercourse, however they can't reproduce.

and going back to the original discussion, how is reproduction important to marriage?

Well, to begin with it's the reason marriage exists in the first place.



Not love.

Actually, an evolutionary and biological argument could be made that reproduction is the reason love exists in the first place.
2nd1rst
Profile Joined April 2009
United States40 Posts
May 30 2009 03:53 GMT
#295
On May 30 2009 12:44 Aegraen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2009 12:40 jeppew wrote:
On May 30 2009 12:38 Aegraen wrote:
On May 30 2009 12:33 IntoTheWow wrote:
On May 30 2009 12:29 Aegraen wrote:
On May 30 2009 12:26 DamageControL wrote:
On May 30 2009 12:23 Aegraen wrote:
On May 30 2009 12:17 DamageControL wrote:
On May 30 2009 12:15 Aegraen wrote:
On May 30 2009 12:12 Archerofaiur wrote:
You said 50$. Its ok though cause everyone knew you were

A) wrong when you made that statement and

B) not the kind of person who would follow through on his word anyway


You seriously believe two non-human females can fuck? Fuck means copulation. Copulation means sexual intercourse.

In the animal kingdom, it is impossible for two females to fuck, period. If they could, it would go against every single thing we know.

Dictionary.com

Main Entry: sexual intercourse
Function: noun
1 : heterosexual intercourse involving penetration of the vagina by the penis : COITUS
2 : intercourse involving genital contact between individuals other than penetration of the vagina by the penis



Merriam-Webster is the most reputable dictionary there is for the english language, and is generally considered the only.

Main Entry: sexual intercourse
Function: noun
Date: 1799
1 : heterosexual intercourse involving penetration of the vagina by the penis : coitus
2 : intercourse (as anal or oral intercourse) that does not involve penetration of the vagina by the penis

Uh proof that it's the only? besides your claim?
btw: the source on dictionary.com for MY definition is
Merriam-Webster's Medical Dictionary, © 2002 Merriam-Webster, Inc.


I used the actual Merriam-Webster website.

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary


On May 30 2009 12:23 Aegraen wrote:
On May 30 2009 12:17 DamageControL wrote:
On May 30 2009 12:15 Aegraen wrote:
On May 30 2009 12:12 Archerofaiur wrote:
You said 50$. Its ok though cause everyone knew you were

A) wrong when you made that statement and

B) not the kind of person who would follow through on his word anyway


You seriously believe two non-human females can fuck? Fuck means copulation. Copulation means sexual intercourse.

In the animal kingdom, it is impossible for two females to fuck, period. If they could, it would go against every single thing we know.

Dictionary.com

Main Entry: sexual intercourse
Function: noun
1 : heterosexual intercourse involving penetration of the vagina by the penis : COITUS
2 : intercourse involving genital contact between individuals other than penetration of the vagina by the penis



Merriam-Webster is the most reputable dictionary there is for the english language, and is generally considered the only.

Main Entry: sexual intercourse
Function: noun
Date: 1799
1 : heterosexual intercourse involving penetration of the vagina by the penis : coitus
2 : intercourse (as anal or oral intercourse) that does not involve penetration of the vagina by the penis



Yeah, funny how you chose to leave the 3rd definition out.


There is no third definition. As long as we going by merriam-webster, and intercourse is defined as such, I would say yes, then I am wrong. Too bad others can't admit when they are ever wrong.

Anyways, rubbing genitals together, as defined as intercourse, however they can't reproduce.

and going back to the original discussion, how is reproduction important to marriage?


In context my dear. The true goal of the pro-gay marriage side is to normalize their actions and make acceptable to society (80% of america are christians, and while not homogenous in beliefs, catholicism the main denomination makes up the majority of christians). Not the obtaining of state derived benefits, though this is one goal, not the goal.

In other words, it's a battle of religion whether you want to see it that way or not. Personally, I think it's pretty fascist to force your belief system on other's when there is no right being infringed upon. Again, I believe there should be no, state derived benefits for marriage or civil unions.


I'm with Aegraen I don't think marriage should have anything to do with the states/government. I also don't see why you are getting so upset over this IntoTheWow. You belittle his argument and even go so far as to ask mods to ban him in the irc?
IntoTheWow
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
is awesome32274 Posts
May 30 2009 03:53 GMT
#296
On May 30 2009 12:47 Aegraen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2009 12:47 IntoTheWow wrote:
No one if forcing your belief system.

Catholicism is based on understanding. So why should the other one's beliefs make you feel any wrong. As long as your beliefs are are respected, i don't see why YOU should force the rest to do what YOU believe.


Homosexuality in catholicism is a sin. A sin is very, very bad.


You clearly have not been instructed on catholicism lol.

Though catholicism encourages their followers to spread the word of Jesus, they do respect other views. They do try to spread their beliefs, but with the support of logic (something you reject it seems), that's why the words of Thomas Aquinas are so important.

Catholicism believes that if you didn't come to face the true of their beliefs by your own means, you are free of sin (short version of you "won't go to hell"). It only becomes a sin if you believe/know about it and choose to ignore it.

keyword: choice.
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Aegraen
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States1225 Posts
May 30 2009 03:53 GMT
#297
On May 30 2009 12:50 Jyvblamo wrote:
Show nested quote +

Personally, I think it's pretty fascist to force your belief system on other's when there is no right being infringed upon.

So, you would be for gay marriage then.


No, but civil unions I'm for. I've said this many times over.
"It is easy to be conspicuously 'compassionate' if others are being forced to pay the cost." -- Murray N. Rothbard -- Rand Paul 2010 -- Ron Paul 2012
Nadagast
Profile Joined January 2009
United States245 Posts
May 30 2009 03:53 GMT
#298
The people on the anti-gay-marriage side of this are so obviously in the wrong, it's sad. I hope you will be embarrassed 30 years from now
keV.
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States3214 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-05-30 03:54:40
May 30 2009 03:54 GMT
#299
Civil unions do not grant the same protections/benefits as marriage. It took about 6 seconds to google the difference and destroy 90% of the arguments here.
"brevity is the soul of wit" - William Shakesman
Nadagast
Profile Joined January 2009
United States245 Posts
May 30 2009 03:54 GMT
#300
On May 30 2009 12:52 scwizard wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2009 12:51 Archerofaiur wrote:
On May 30 2009 12:44 scwizard wrote:
On May 30 2009 12:40 jeppew wrote:
On May 30 2009 12:38 Aegraen wrote:
On May 30 2009 12:33 IntoTheWow wrote:
On May 30 2009 12:29 Aegraen wrote:
On May 30 2009 12:26 DamageControL wrote:
On May 30 2009 12:23 Aegraen wrote:
On May 30 2009 12:17 DamageControL wrote:
[quote]
Dictionary.com

Main Entry: sexual intercourse
Function: noun
1 : heterosexual intercourse involving penetration of the vagina by the penis : COITUS
2 : intercourse involving genital contact between individuals other than penetration of the vagina by the penis



Merriam-Webster is the most reputable dictionary there is for the english language, and is generally considered the only.

Main Entry: sexual intercourse
Function: noun
Date: 1799
1 : heterosexual intercourse involving penetration of the vagina by the penis : coitus
2 : intercourse (as anal or oral intercourse) that does not involve penetration of the vagina by the penis

Uh proof that it's the only? besides your claim?
btw: the source on dictionary.com for MY definition is
Merriam-Webster's Medical Dictionary, © 2002 Merriam-Webster, Inc.


I used the actual Merriam-Webster website.

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary


On May 30 2009 12:23 Aegraen wrote:
On May 30 2009 12:17 DamageControL wrote:
On May 30 2009 12:15 Aegraen wrote:
On May 30 2009 12:12 Archerofaiur wrote:
You said 50$. Its ok though cause everyone knew you were

A) wrong when you made that statement and

B) not the kind of person who would follow through on his word anyway


You seriously believe two non-human females can fuck? Fuck means copulation. Copulation means sexual intercourse.

In the animal kingdom, it is impossible for two females to fuck, period. If they could, it would go against every single thing we know.

Dictionary.com

Main Entry: sexual intercourse
Function: noun
1 : heterosexual intercourse involving penetration of the vagina by the penis : COITUS
2 : intercourse involving genital contact between individuals other than penetration of the vagina by the penis



Merriam-Webster is the most reputable dictionary there is for the english language, and is generally considered the only.

Main Entry: sexual intercourse
Function: noun
Date: 1799
1 : heterosexual intercourse involving penetration of the vagina by the penis : coitus
2 : intercourse (as anal or oral intercourse) that does not involve penetration of the vagina by the penis



Yeah, funny how you chose to leave the 3rd definition out.


There is no third definition. As long as we going by merriam-webster, and intercourse is defined as such, I would say yes, then I am wrong. Too bad others can't admit when they are ever wrong.

Anyways, rubbing genitals together, as defined as intercourse, however they can't reproduce.

and going back to the original discussion, how is reproduction important to marriage?

Well, to begin with it's the reason marriage exists in the first place.



Not love.

Actually, an evolutionary and biological argument could be made that reproduction is the reason love exists in the first place.

An evolutionary argument can be made that reproduction is the reason everything about humans exists and functions how it does in the first place...
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