EPTJaedong barely beat Bisu in his Bo5, is 2-2 with Flash in recent games, and played a close OSL final with Fantasy.
He's doing great, but I wouldn't say he's close to bonjwa with so many other great players out there.
Can we call Jaedong the 5th Bonjwa? - Page 2
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Vasoline73
United States8184 Posts
Jaedong barely beat Bisu in his Bo5, is 2-2 with Flash in recent games, and played a close OSL final with Fantasy. He's doing great, but I wouldn't say he's close to bonjwa with so many other great players out there. | ||
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samsammy
United States76 Posts
On April 21 2009 11:58 Carnivorous Sheep wrote: The article makes such a retarded argument. Just because people can "beat" Jaedong so he can't be considered bonjwa? I love how he conveniently overlooks stuff like Chojja beating Savior in a MSL in the midst of his "bonjwa domination." He's trying to make it sound like JD needs 100% winrate against everyone or something. Stupid argument imo. Savior was actually not considered a bonjwa at this time. People only recognized Savior as a Bonjwa AFTER savior beat Nada in OSL. And yes, indeed his ZvsZ was his weak matchup, until he went to the MSL Finals again to disprove that, beating Silver. At the time nobody "seemed" like they could beat SAvior. | ||
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MoRe_mInErAls
Canada1210 Posts
On April 21 2009 12:05 integral wrote: there are some ridiculous posts in this thread, there is obviously debate Now this is a ridiculous post. Of course we can call Jaedong a bonjwa. Should we? I have already stated my opinion on that. Edit: On April 21 2009 11:45 Jyvblamo wrote: No. No we can't. There is debate. This post is even more ridiculous | ||
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New Zealand6138 Posts
On April 21 2009 11:50 pubbanana wrote: NO!!!!! if pubbanana says no then no | ||
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economist_
Vietnam719 Posts
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Realpenguin
8253 Posts
On February 09 2009 01:32 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote: If you have to ask if he's bonjwa, he's not bonjwa. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=87957 | ||
Last Romantic
United States20667 Posts
If there is a doubt, he is not bonjwa. Goddamnit. Closing this unless someone convinces me there is possibility of discussion in this thread. These bonjwa threads are retarded. If someone becomes bonjwa, there will be no need for a thread declaring him as such. I don't remember sAviOr becoming bonjwa or iloveoov becoming bonjwa threads -_- | ||
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Avidkeystamper
United States8556 Posts
Although, something that shocked me about sAviOr was the sheer amount of games he dropped. Though this is probably due to a lighter emphasize on proleague where Savior could rape scrubs, he was taken to the limit in many Bo5s but always prevailed for the most part. | ||
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uglymoose89
United States671 Posts
Someone correct me if i'm wrong. | ||
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Mindcrime
United States6899 Posts
Even what was known to be Savior's weakest match up ZvsZ was proven wrong when Savior beat s.s.mSilver, the "gambler". All in all, it can be said at the time, there was simply NO pro gamer out there who was able to beat Savior. What? Because he beat an average zvzer? wtf terrible reasoning | ||
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RoieTRS
United States2569 Posts
Savior was a bonjwa not only because of his amazing records, but because anyone who actually stood a chance against him... stood no chance against him. Jaedong, however, still loses, not regularly, but he does, to bisu and flash, etc. Despite his amazing record, he can not be bonjwa yet. | ||
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Pawsom
United States928 Posts
On April 21 2009 12:13 Last Romantic wrote: How many times does this have to be reiterated? If there is a doubt, he is not bonjwa. Goddamnit. Seriously this. Think back to when the real bonjwa were in their prime. There was probably a 99.5% consensus on who the best player was at the time. And while many people would say jaedong now, its nothing likt it was with say, NaDa. And even if we do get that high rate of consensus, which maybe Bisu came close to or Jaedong is close to now, theres more to it. That player has to be a a level above everyone else. His games should be awe inspiring to the point that every game is unbelieable to watch. If Jaedong became as dominant at his other matchups as his ZvZ, and held this position for a significant amount of time, then the possibility exists. But to say he is bonwja now, well thats just foolish. P.S. Personally, I do not think another Bonjwa will arise before SC2. The game is too figured out(although people have said this for years) and the level of competition is too high. | ||
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GGQ
Canada2653 Posts
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KnightOfNi
United States1508 Posts
Thats all I have to say to this thread, and all the other 1209381029487 threads that say that someone is the next bonjwa. (unless of course it is Upmagic or Leta or Horang2 or hyvaa or Really being called a bonjwa (man that would be the day))... | ||
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ambit!ous1
United States3662 Posts
i would love to see another Zerg Bonjwa go JaeDong! | ||
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randombum
United States2378 Posts
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hooktits
United States972 Posts
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Malongo
Chile3479 Posts
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maareek
United States2042 Posts
Thanks for the translation! Edit: btw, for those mentioning it: Winning x MSLs, then losing one then winning an OSL has nothing to do with the term Bonjwa. Was merely an aspect all of the players had gone through that was mentioned by the writer of that thread; he even stated that fact in his thread to avoid confusion. The Bonjwa title does not correspond in any fashion to that progression. | ||
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eatmyshorts5
United States1530 Posts
 sAviOr was the  Last bonjwa and forever always be. | ||
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