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arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17922 Posts
July 28 2008 19:36 GMT
#301
FPVOD's are always entertaining to watch,but some of combats information is really pretty..useless and its kind of sad. Would love to see someone that is good at a certain raceterrancoughcough make some FPVOD's and upload.
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
zatic
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Zurich15366 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-07-28 19:38:29
July 28 2008 19:37 GMT
#302
On July 29 2008 01:56 fathead wrote:
As far as I can tell there is no better alternative. Watching FPVODS of progamers are nice but are no where near as good as having the person playing walking you through what's going on. I did find a few other VODS on youtube buy ALL of the other accounts were either dead or didn't have commentary.
.

Well, don't look for it on youtube. Hang around here for a while and you will find more quality content than random Youtube people can ever offer. But for starters you might want to check this out:
http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=E2C2D043BAFD00A1

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Caller
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Poland8075 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-07-28 19:40:43
July 28 2008 19:40 GMT
#303
On July 29 2008 02:08 anderoo wrote:
he plays against a guy named "hazy-breeze" who is supposedly an A rank korean zerg on iccup. If someone can find out hazy's iccup aka or combat can tell people in a video I think that they'd doubt his skill level less, because I'm pretty sure that A ranked players don't go around giving out free wins, and even if he didn't try his hardest against combat an A ranked player can still smash lower level players easily only using mouse.


you mean the HaZy.BreeZe that goes to his high school for 5 years?



Silvera1234 (8 months ago) Show Hide 0 Marked as spam Reply | Spam lol u know hazy breeze? Its impossible to SKTerran that guy =[. 5 stars as always =]
Wasif1112 (8 months ago) Show Hide Marked as spam Reply hazy goes to my skool, known him for like 5 years

he's pretty good, but i don't think a or b level. I almost beat him in one of his 1v1 play/obs on east, but i only played once and that was a while ago when i sucked even more than usual. Maybe C/C+, but A? lololololololol
Watch me fail at Paradox: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=397564
SonuvBob
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Aiur21550 Posts
July 28 2008 19:44 GMT
#304
On July 29 2008 04:36 arb wrote:
FPVOD's are always entertaining to watch,but some of combats information is really pretty..useless and its kind of sad. Would love to see someone that is good at a certain raceterrancoughcough make some FPVOD's and upload.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=58284
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Pangolin
Profile Joined March 2008
United States1035 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-07-28 20:08:35
July 28 2008 20:06 GMT
#305
Also, I'm not sure if it is still possible to download them, but a lot of top foreigners released replay packs from the TSL. I found those to be pretty helpful for learning to play the game as well.

Edit: link http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=72552
It's easier not to.
Kingsp4de20
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
United States716 Posts
July 28 2008 21:43 GMT
#306
On July 29 2008 04:44 SonuvBob wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2008 04:36 arb wrote:
FPVOD's are always entertaining to watch,but some of combats information is really pretty..useless and its kind of sad. Would love to see someone that is good at a certain raceterrancoughcough make some FPVOD's and upload.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=58284


Woah i never knew about that thread, thanks!
Dromar
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States2145 Posts
July 28 2008 22:08 GMT
#307
On July 29 2008 04:44 SonuvBob wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2008 04:36 arb wrote:
FPVOD's are always entertaining to watch,but some of combats information is really pretty..useless and its kind of sad. Would love to see someone that is good at a certain raceterrancoughcough make some FPVOD's and upload.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=58284


OMG how could I have not found this? Thanx a lot.
clazziquai
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
6685 Posts
July 28 2008 22:52 GMT
#308
On July 29 2008 01:56 fathead wrote:
I have a question. Since you guys seem to think Combat-Ex is just a tool. Where would you recommend a noob to go to learn how to get better. And don't just say play more often. Assume that they ARE playing a lot but still want some kind of help. A VOD seems like the best method for this so where else if not Combat?

As far as I can tell there is no better alternative. Watching FPVODS of progamers are nice but are no where near as good as having the person playing walking you through what's going on. I did find a few other VODS on youtube buy ALL of the other accounts were either dead or didn't have commentary.

So if Combat-Ex's advice isn't valid then please by all means get on YouTube and offer something better. Until then you will just be considered a jealous hater.

The truth is that Combat has gotten a lot of new players into SC and old players back into SC. If the advice is bad then who cares people will learn else where. The point is that they are playing again.

So again until someone offers something better. Shut up. In the mean time be happy that YT has revitalized SC. And again I can't stress this enough, get on YT and give it your own go. YT is the wave of the future, it's time to evolve.


You seriously can't improve playing by yourself?
Play, watch replays, fix what you do wrong.

Not that hard.
#1 Sea.Really Fan / #1 Nesh Fan / Terran Forever~
blabber
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States4448 Posts
July 28 2008 23:11 GMT
#309
I've said this before and I'll say it again, watch his videos all you want, just don't give him your well-earned money
blabberrrrr
Raithed
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
China7078 Posts
July 29 2008 06:41 GMT
#310
On July 29 2008 07:52 clazziquai wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2008 01:56 fathead wrote:
I have a question. Since you guys seem to think Combat-Ex is just a tool. Where would you recommend a noob to go to learn how to get better. And don't just say play more often. Assume that they ARE playing a lot but still want some kind of help. A VOD seems like the best method for this so where else if not Combat?

As far as I can tell there is no better alternative. Watching FPVODS of progamers are nice but are no where near as good as having the person playing walking you through what's going on. I did find a few other VODS on youtube buy ALL of the other accounts were either dead or didn't have commentary.

So if Combat-Ex's advice isn't valid then please by all means get on YouTube and offer something better. Until then you will just be considered a jealous hater.

The truth is that Combat has gotten a lot of new players into SC and old players back into SC. If the advice is bad then who cares people will learn else where. The point is that they are playing again.

So again until someone offers something better. Shut up. In the mean time be happy that YT has revitalized SC. And again I can't stress this enough, get on YT and give it your own go. YT is the wave of the future, it's time to evolve.


You seriously can't improve playing by yourself?
Play, watch replays, fix what you do wrong.

Not that hard.

calm down though, seriously, he helps the noobs (d-).
IdrA
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States11541 Posts
July 29 2008 06:47 GMT
#311
On July 29 2008 04:36 arb wrote:
FPVOD's are always entertaining to watch,but some of combats information is really pretty..useless and its kind of sad. Would love to see someone that is good at a certain raceterrancoughcough make some FPVOD's and upload.

that would encourage other people to play terran, which would just be cruel
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BottleAbuser
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Korea (South)1888 Posts
July 29 2008 06:49 GMT
#312
Is that a poke at terran users? Bo3? I SHOW YOU MANLINESS OF MAN.
+ Show Spoiler +
If I lose, it's only because you're a cheesing zerg or faggot toss
Compilers are like boyfriends, you miss a period and they go crazy on you.
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17922 Posts
July 29 2008 10:33 GMT
#313
On July 29 2008 15:47 IdrA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2008 04:36 arb wrote:
FPVOD's are always entertaining to watch,but some of combats information is really pretty..useless and its kind of sad. Would love to see someone that is good at a certain raceterrancoughcough make some FPVOD's and upload.

that would encourage other people to play terran, which would just be cruel


TvT..*Shudder* But surely a few terrans would be better than the hordes of protoss that are playing now eh? Otherwise yeah that would be cruel
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
sylonto
Profile Joined July 2008
United States44 Posts
July 29 2008 20:29 GMT
#314
On July 29 2008 15:49 BottleAbuser wrote:
Is that a poke at terran users? Bo3? I SHOW YOU MANLINESS OF MAN.
+ Show Spoiler +
If I lose, it's only because you're a cheesing zerg or faggot toss

Its cruel to have someone face DTs and dark swarms
Tycoons tower! BAM
Nitrogen
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States5345 Posts
July 29 2008 21:00 GMT
#315
On July 29 2008 19:33 arb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2008 15:47 IdrA wrote:
On July 29 2008 04:36 arb wrote:
FPVOD's are always entertaining to watch,but some of combats information is really pretty..useless and its kind of sad. Would love to see someone that is good at a certain raceterrancoughcough make some FPVOD's and upload.

that would encourage other people to play terran, which would just be cruel


TvT..*Shudder* But surely a few terrans would be better than the hordes of protoss that are playing now eh? Otherwise yeah that would be cruel


tvt is awesome! (I'm like the only terran who doesn't think that)

and i think idra is trying to save low level terrans from the nightmarish hell that is the d levels of iccup. as a lower terran it is so fucking difficult to handle all of the cheese that is thrown at you, proxy 2 gates, 5 pools, etc. most of the people in tvt cheese too :[
UNFUCK YOURSELF
Ancestral
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States3230 Posts
July 29 2008 21:13 GMT
#316
This has gotten pretty long but my $0.02...

Yeah, he probably does help D- players, but he is an abuser and sounds really annoying, and many people have listed alternatives. He's also pretty arrogant. Although one time I think he said "I'm not that good, this is for noobs," the majority of the time he talks about his sick timing and unreal micro. I've never heard LastShadow IRL but I imagine he'd sound like this.
The Nature and purpose of the martial way are universal; all selfish desires must be roasted in the tempering fires of hard training. - Masutatsu Oyama
Ouga
Profile Joined March 2008
Finland645 Posts
July 30 2008 02:25 GMT
#317
Pretty hateful here. It's completely ignorant and more arrogant than combat has ever been to say his real level is D+. I'd like to know the real rank of someone saying that because it makes no sense. If you are able to host and always do so you'll get to C- with 50-100 stats. Play motw's and you get +130 for same rank win, -50 for same rank loss. Even +97 for -1rank win. Now I've only watched couple of combat's videos and I did get few minor tips from him, that without I had no trouble being at least C-. I know C is something I'm pretty easily capable of but at the same time I feel combat is probably better than me due to couple of timing things, macro stuff I noticed from his vods. So I think it's really fair to say he's worthy of C at least.

I'd understand all the angst if he looked like bragging sucker who always tells how he's B- since obviously his current account isn't really accurate. You may call him cheater, I'd say he looks like a guy playing his friends. Wow, what a crime. Anyway, considering I've watched about 5 of his vods (months ago) I never heard him say his own iccup rank. I remember actually thinking of asking him about it since I thought he should have mentioned it already. Now I don't think this sounds too much of a selfboosting actually. I know I wouldn't play friends in iccup with my real name since the system at low ranks allows everybody to raise to something like C or C+ by just playing 1:1 against friends 5 games a day but I don't see what's the problem since it hasn't looked like he's bragging about his rank.

I somewhat agree on the point about the "click these ads as appreciation so I get money" videos, the idea of asking such is rather self-deprecating and inconsiderate.

As he has said, his videos aren't meant for C+ people to become "as good as him" but newbies of D- to D+ caliber mainly. I'm sure many of them actually benefit from these videos. Many people enjoy self-commentated FPVODs instead of learning from replays about buildorders and such, and I don't think there's many people to compete for the viewers on this category.
Nasma
Profile Joined July 2008
Australia7 Posts
July 30 2008 02:26 GMT
#318
On July 29 2008 04:44 SonuvBob wrote:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=58284


I'll repeat the others and say thanks.
BroOd
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Austin10833 Posts
July 30 2008 02:38 GMT
#319
The combat-ex apologists are almost as funny as combat himself.
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Divinek
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Canada4045 Posts
July 30 2008 07:10 GMT
#320
Why does no one understand that bad advice is worse than no advice?
Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity.
Oh goodness me, FOX tv where do you get your sight? Can't you keep track, the puck is black. That's why the ice is white.
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