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AttackZerg
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States7454 Posts
September 07 2003 15:59 GMT
#101
The few zergs that are powerfull outside of korea, are REALY powerfull

so in my mind it makes up for less numbers ^^.
Muhweli
Profile Joined September 2002
Finland5328 Posts
Last Edited: 2003-09-07 16:12:34
September 07 2003 16:11 GMT
#102
Sooo... The fact that Zergs aren't winning any tournaments outside korea is not because they suck but because they... uhm. Well... In addition. Who would you list WITH Blackman to be on the same level with him ([edit] or above). Bring it on Enlighten me plz.
River me timbers.
Liquid`Nazgul
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
22427 Posts
September 07 2003 16:12 GMT
#103
why would anyone have to be at Blackmans level for you to be wrong
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z7-RaiN
Profile Joined January 2003
United States522 Posts
September 07 2003 17:12 GMT
#104
On September 07 2003 19:55 Roman wrote:
ofcourse you shoulda gone... right rain?


wcg usa was not an upset, so shut the fuck up

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Bull-Demon
Profile Joined January 2003
United States582 Posts
September 07 2003 17:15 GMT
#105
Bleww summed things up nicely. -_-
~_~
Nxla
Profile Joined July 2003
United States49 Posts
September 07 2003 17:21 GMT
#106
On September 08 2003 01:11 Muhweli wrote:
Sooo... The fact that Zergs aren't winning any tournaments outside korea is not because they suck but because they... uhm. Well...


Ummm, Zerg has only won ONE tournament in korea in the past two years.
How can I feel abandoned even when the world surrounds me?
mvnL
Profile Joined January 2003
Poland394 Posts
September 07 2003 17:56 GMT
#107
--- Nuked ---
dork
Profile Joined September 2003
Canada2207 Posts
September 07 2003 18:55 GMT
#108
who beat him?
staring at the world through the rear view
XaI)CyRiC
Profile Joined October 2002
United States4471 Posts
September 07 2003 19:30 GMT
#109
Give it up... you're all just arguing about opinions. Some are more informed than others, but they're all still just opinions.
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AttackZerg
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States7454 Posts
September 07 2003 20:53 GMT
#110
muhweli,

I consider ret very much on blackmans level.

Tomson is a more refined , less orginal version of blackman, and able to play zvz with alot more consistentcy then blackman

This one is much less objective , but I would also rank day's zvp and zvz as being on par with any non korean.

I belive some reason that zergs outside of korea have more trouble winning tournaments is because there is a smaller scope for general feasable strats that don't succumb badly to certain strats.

if you go back and read rekruls reasoning on why zerg is the hardest race to master, you'll see what I'm aiming to say, but on that same note what I've said might not match what rekrul said and if so, sorry for dragging your idea's down with mine ^^.
Mormon
Profile Joined August 2003
United States145 Posts
September 07 2003 22:27 GMT
#111
Blackman's macro is rather impressive, but in order to get himself to that "machine-like state" where he can go nuts with macro during a game, he needs to take way too many risks and rely way too much on luck to accomplish that. He's something of a one-strat-wonder, every single game he does the same exact thing against the 3 races, respectively.

He's full of huge gaping holes that I'm sure all of the hugely talented players wouldn't hesitate to exploit.

There's a reason players like Yellow, Chojja and Junwi don't take the entire map in 12 minutes, it's because doing that will most often get them killed at the skill level they're playing at.

His only major accomplishment I think was 3rd? at WCG, and he got lucky there...

I really just don't think he has the talent required to really accomplish much in Korea. His micro could almost be considered non-existant.

But all that aside, it should've been either Blackman or Tomson going to Korea. Best of 1 matches are CLEARLY not representative of the players' skills... for competitive play I think it really should always be atleast best of 7 to confirm which player is better, for atleast a quite decent amount of reliability. =(
Muhweli
Profile Joined September 2002
Finland5328 Posts
September 08 2003 01:51 GMT
#112
Mormon, well spoken, he beat Oddysay & Others with luck, skillwise he would've been like... what? 100th? Yeah. And doing exactly same strats always, I think it's a lil' different in maps like valhalla for example and if he can execute that strat so well that he can get 3rd in wcg doing the same things every game, he must be good aight? ^^;

Still everyone's bitching of zerg being an easy and overpowered (etc) race and even if not overpowered, still easy race to play but still zerg isn't the dominating race.

I do value ret's skill and I know his good but (plz ret don't read this you'll get pissed) I don't think he will make it to top 3 wcg even if yellow and boxer aren't there

And tomson? Well his good but we won't be seeing him in korea this year either aight? So why not to start own thread for him too?

day? ok I will not comment this one.

Mormon, so what you're saying that other players than Boxer and Yellow did not manage to exploit these gapping holes last wcg? :/
River me timbers.
Muhweli
Profile Joined September 2002
Finland5328 Posts
September 08 2003 02:00 GMT
#113
And for him who said zerg has only one one league during the last couple of years... I bet there are more :D (which doesn't relate too closely to my original point)
River me timbers.
z7-TranCe
Profile Joined November 2002
Canada3158 Posts
September 08 2003 03:09 GMT
#114
lets all play nice now,remember not all opinions are the same and you will never change that [=
Give it up... you're all just arguing about opinions. Some are more informed than others, but they're all still just opinions.


ding dang dong my dad is faster then your dad
ding da ding ding dong
Erwin was here! AhaHAHhhHAHahahAHAhaha
PunkSkeleton
Profile Joined January 2003
Poland226 Posts
September 08 2003 03:51 GMT
#115
BlackMan lost because his scouting sux. He's improved but... Macia really impressed me playing vs Zyneck and I'm sure that he could have beaten BlackMan without cheese. But why shouldn't he use BM scouting as his advance? BlackMan didn't even found Macia when he was scouting 12 (Macia was here) so BM just sucked. He sucked vs Zyneck too (didn't scout him and Zyneck made a FE). And please don't tell me you faggots that Zyneck and Macia (sYs too - Rekrul you suck)are newbies because they're playing this game longer than Tomson.
Liquid`Jinro
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Sweden33719 Posts
September 08 2003 03:58 GMT
#116
On September 08 2003 10:51 Muhweli wrote:
Mormon, well spoken, he beat Oddysay & Others with luck, skillwise he would've been like... what? 100th? Yeah. And doing exactly same strats always, I think it's a lil' different in maps like valhalla for example and if he can execute that strat so well that he can get 3rd in wcg doing the same things every game, he must be good aight? ^^;

Still everyone's bitching of zerg being an easy and overpowered (etc) race and even if not overpowered, still easy race to play but still zerg isn't the dominating race.

I do value ret's skill and I know his good but (plz ret don't read this you'll get pissed) I don't think he will make it to top 3 wcg even if yellow and boxer aren't there

And tomson? Well his good but we won't be seeing him in korea this year either aight? So why not to start own thread for him too?

day? ok I will not comment this one.

Mormon, so what you're saying that other players than Boxer and Yellow did not manage to exploit these gapping holes last wcg? :/

He got really lucky vs oddysay- and his strat only works once then all progamers will exploit his weaknesses like no tomorrow :{
Blackmans zerg micro is worse than mine. I DONT PLAY ZERG ;{
Moderatortell the guy that interplanatar interaction is pivotal to terrans variety of optionitudals in the pre-midgame preperatories as well as the protosstinal deterriggation of elite zergling strikes - Stimey n | Formerly FrozenArbiter
z7-TranCe
Profile Joined November 2002
Canada3158 Posts
September 08 2003 04:05 GMT
#117
i think you should watch some of blackmans games against Aqaurius and stop talking shit,then watch some of his wcg poland games then restart talking shit.

in conclusion,rekrul loves the cock
Erwin was here! AhaHAHhhHAHahahAHAhaha
Nxla
Profile Joined July 2003
United States49 Posts
September 08 2003 04:19 GMT
#118
On September 08 2003 11:00 Muhweli wrote:
And for him who said zerg has only one one league during the last couple of years... I bet there are more :D (which doesn't relate too closely to my original point)


God I hope so, but the only one I can remember recently was the tourney Yellow won a year or two ago.
How can I feel abandoned even when the world surrounds me?
ErOs_Probe
Profile Joined December 2002
Netherlands680 Posts
September 08 2003 04:29 GMT
#119
I think many people believe Blackman[pG] is far above other europians zergs. He is not, actually i think Mondragon's zvp > Blackman's zvp. And ret's zvt aint much worse than blackman's. Though this could just be a newbie comment from me.

bye.
k3 fan.
[GiTM]-Ace
Profile Joined September 2002
United States4935 Posts
September 08 2003 04:38 GMT
#120
On September 08 2003 13:05 TranCe wrote:


in conclusion,rekrul loves the cock
lmfao
I may not be the best player right now but I think I can beat any 'best' players. I'll beat all the best players and become the best player. Watch me. - Jju
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