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dbRic1203
Germany2655 Posts
Use that to see your build in Action. Or suggest it for Harstems "beat GMs with stupid stuff" series. Maybe he thinks it has some potential  If neither of them can make it work, it s probably not as good as you think it is Edit: also MaxPax has been streaming quite regularly lately. He s more unorthodox and might be willing to try that as well... | ||
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Dangermousecatdog
United Kingdom7084 Posts
On March 05 2020 04:14 iloveoof wrote: Here's a casted game of Pancakes vs. Timorus doing his style. The other games in the series are also great and either use an unorthodox speed void ray style or show the mass zealot style vs. a variety of Terran openers. That's not his style. Other than what BjoernK described, the P opens 2 gas not 1 gas, goes phoenix, though he never harrasses with them, and acts defensively with the zealots for almost the entire game. | ||
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HarstemSc2
1 Post
On March 06 2020 17:03 dbRic1203 wrote: I think on rottis stream you can use x amount of channel points to make him Play a siggested strat. Use that to see your build in Action. Or suggest it for Harstems "beat GMs with stupid stuff" series. Maybe he thinks it has some potential If neither of them can make it work, it s probably not as good as you think it is Edit: also MaxPax has been streaming quite regularly lately. He s more unorthodox and might be willing to try that as well... I watched the replay. This is absolutely not viable at high level. He is lacking any kind of defense for key timings. Not taking a second gas is just bad. 2 gas charge is viable and we saw some use of it last IEM. But the build suggested by the OP is lacking necessary defenses. He opens zealot-->stalker into 2 more zealots. at 4:00 he has 1 stalker and 1 zealot (2 zealots maybe 80% done). At this timing a proxy starport 4 hellion drop could hit or 20 seconds later a regular mine drop could hit, there is nothing to hit the medivacs and zealots will just get absolutely dunked on by good burrown unburrow micro of mines. I wish the op a lot of luck with this build on the ladder, but it is NOT viable at high level. Sorry! | ||
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Komodo
Mexico89 Posts
On March 07 2020 03:20 HarstemSc2 wrote: I watched the replay. This is absolutely not viable at high level. He is lacking any kind of defense for key timings. Not taking a second gas is just bad. 2 gas charge is viable and we saw some use of it last IEM. But the build suggested by the OP is lacking necessary defenses. He opens zealot-->stalker into 2 more zealots. at 4:00 he has 1 stalker and 1 zealot (2 zealots maybe 80% done). At this timing a proxy starport 4 hellion drop could hit or 20 seconds later a regular mine drop could hit, there is nothing to hit the medivacs and zealots will just get absolutely dunked on by good burrown unburrow micro of mines. I wish the op a lot of luck with this build on the ladder, but it is NOT viable at high level. Sorry! Case closed! | ||
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Moonerz
United States461 Posts
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WombaT
Northern Ireland26604 Posts
On March 07 2020 04:44 Moonerz wrote: Just got around to listening to the Pylon Show and around 2:24:00 Rotti brings up this thread/strategy lol Is it specifically this strategy? Also which Pylon show the latest? Sounds worth a listen | ||
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Moonerz
United States461 Posts
On March 07 2020 04:46 Wombat_NI wrote: Is it specifically this strategy? Also which Pylon show the latest? Sounds worth a listen The most recent one, IEM recap. Yeah this specific one lol, he doesnt name drop but it is certainly this thread. | ||
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yubo56
690 Posts
On March 07 2020 03:20 HarstemSc2 wrote: I watched the replay. This is absolutely not viable at high level. He is lacking any kind of defense for key timings. Not taking a second gas is just bad. 2 gas charge is viable and we saw some use of it last IEM. But the build suggested by the OP is lacking necessary defenses. He opens zealot-->stalker into 2 more zealots. at 4:00 he has 1 stalker and 1 zealot (2 zealots maybe 80% done). At this timing a proxy starport 4 hellion drop could hit or 20 seconds later a regular mine drop could hit, there is nothing to hit the medivacs and zealots will just get absolutely dunked on by good burrown unburrow micro of mines. I wish the op a lot of luck with this build on the ladder, but it is NOT viable at high level. Sorry! Is nobody going to point out that this is Harstem's first post on TL, at least using this account? Love the Youtube cap, worried my f5 button will break at the rate I've been refreshing for more content  | ||
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WombaT
Northern Ireland26604 Posts
On March 07 2020 06:10 yubo56 wrote: Is nobody going to point out that this is Harstem's first post on TL, at least using this account? Love the Youtube cap, worried my f5 button will break at the rate I've been refreshing for more content I like the idea he was so sickened with this build he signed up specifically to comment lol | ||
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Dangermousecatdog
United Kingdom7084 Posts
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WombaT
Northern Ireland26604 Posts
On March 07 2020 08:03 Dangermousecatdog wrote: It can't be Harstem. Doesn't Harstem already have an account here called Harstem? I vaguely remember him posting before. You are correct, not one of the more prolific progamer posters but he has 250 on here under ‘Harstem’ funnily enough as you say. | ||
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brickrd
United States4894 Posts
On March 07 2020 08:15 Wombat_NI wrote: You are correct, not one of the more prolific progamer posters but he has 250 on here under ‘Harstem’ funnily enough as you say. there have been occasions where progamers remade accounts because they forgot their logins. most pros aren't very active | ||
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Major
Mexico539 Posts
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dbRic1203
Germany2655 Posts
On March 07 2020 08:03 Dangermousecatdog wrote: It can't be Harstem. Doesn't Harstem already have an account here called Harstem? I vaguely remember him posting before. Well he just made an announcement on youtube, that is pretty much about this thread, where he askes viewers to suggest builds, they think are good. And he ll try to execute them on pro level, to see if they are viewable. So that was defnatly him and we can put this discussion finally to rest? | ||
Seeker
Where dat snitch at?37071 Posts
1) OP does not meet our guidelines for a strategy discussion thread. 2) OP seems incapable of handling constructive criticism. 3) Progamers have proven that this strategy is not viable at a high level. 4) This thread has run its course. | ||
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