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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
September 24 2018 13:56 GMT
#281
Because he found a group of classmates who how had never spoken to the victim that were discussing the event by email months before Ford came forward with her story. The incident was discussed by people who attended the party.
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xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
September 24 2018 13:59 GMT
#282
On September 24 2018 22:56 Plansix wrote:
Because he found a group of classmates who how had never spoken to the victim that were discussing the event by email months before Ford came forward with her story. The incident was discussed by people who attended the party.

Where is that discussed?
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
September 24 2018 14:18 GMT
#283
On September 24 2018 22:59 xDaunt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 24 2018 22:56 Plansix wrote:
Because he found a group of classmates who how had never spoken to the victim that were discussing the event by email months before Ford came forward with her story. The incident was discussed by people who attended the party.

Where is that discussed?

NPR covered it this morning. The article in the New Yorker references is, though it isn’t expressly clear that former classmates were discussing Kavanaughs behavior at school before any allegations came out.
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xDaunt
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United States17988 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-09-24 14:30:03
September 24 2018 14:29 GMT
#284
On September 24 2018 23:18 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 24 2018 22:59 xDaunt wrote:
On September 24 2018 22:56 Plansix wrote:
Because he found a group of classmates who how had never spoken to the victim that were discussing the event by email months before Ford came forward with her story. The incident was discussed by people who attended the party.

Where is that discussed?

NPR covered it this morning. The article in the New Yorker references is, though it isn’t expressly clear that former classmates were discussing Kavanaughs behavior at school before any allegations came out.

Well, here's what Ronan had to say in an interview of Stephanopolos:

STEPHANOPOLOS: “This jumped out at me. You said at first she wasn’t sure if this was Kavanaugh last week, and you write after six days of carefully assessing her memories and consulting with her attorneys she did become confident that it was him.”

FARROW: “And I would say that’s extremely typical with these stories when you are dealing with drama and alcohol. The more caution that I have dealt with in cases like this frequently say, I want to take time and search myself and make sure that I can affirmatively stand by these claims in the face of what she knew would be a crucible of partisan pushback which is what she is receiving now.”

STEPHANOPOLOS: “Why did she come forward?”

FARROW: “She came forward because Senate Democrats came looking for this claim. She did not flag this. This came to the attention of people on the hill independently, and it has co cornered her into an awkward position. She said, point-blank, I don’t want to ruin anyone’s life, but she feels this is a serious claim. She considers her own memories credible and she felt it was important to tell her own story before others did for her.”


Source.

Not necessarily inconsistent, but we'll see.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
September 24 2018 14:33 GMT
#285
My understanding is that the stories of the incident were circulating before she came forward as the victim. That Kavanaugh exposed himself to someone, they just didn’t know who.
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xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
September 24 2018 14:43 GMT
#286
Happy trails, Mr. Rodentstein:

Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein is resigning, according to Axios, which cited a source familiar with the matter.

"He's expecting to be fired," a source close to Rosenstein told Axios, the website reported Monday. He plans to step down, Axios reported.

Rosenstein's expected resignation will immediately raise questions about the fate of the ongoing investigation by special counsel Robert Mueller, who is probing Russian interference in the 2016 presidential election, and possible obstruction of justice by President Donald Trump.


Source.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
September 24 2018 15:02 GMT
#287
I’m sure the career DOJ vet that Sessions picks as a new deputy will have zero love for the White House staff attacking the DOJ.
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xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-09-24 15:38:53
September 24 2018 15:29 GMT
#288
On September 25 2018 00:02 Plansix wrote:
I’m sure the career DOJ vet that Sessions picks as a new deputy will have zero love for the White House staff attacking the DOJ.

You're dreaming. Rosenstein just resigned in light of allegations of sedition, and that's before we have seen the FISA application that he signed off on that's about to be released or considered how the DOJ has been stonewalling congressional oversight on all of this stuff. There is a huge cloud of corruption hanging over the DOJ right now. There is only one kind of person that Sessions will appoint in these circumstances: an inquisitor. And while I have no doubt that that there are plenty of career DOJ people who are honorable and disgusted with what they have seen from their superiors, the smart money is on Sessions bringing in an outsider.

EDIT: Actually, it looks like Trump gets to appoint Rosenstein's temporary successor for up to 210 days. So yeah, expect an inquisitor.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
September 24 2018 15:38 GMT
#289
Pretty sure he is going to make Trump, I mean Sessions, fire him. Your conspiracy theories about the FISA warrant and whatever don’t have much barring on reality.
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xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-09-24 15:41:19
September 24 2018 15:41 GMT
#290
On September 25 2018 00:38 Plansix wrote:
Pretty sure he is going to make Trump, I mean Sessions, fire him. Your conspiracy theories about the FISA warrant and whatever don’t have much barring on reality.

It's not a conspiracy theory at all. It's been reported on extensively by Sara Carter and John Solomon (and others). This has been all out there for people to see for months. Just because the likes of NYT and NPR won't touch it for political reasons doesn't make it a conspiracy theory.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-09-24 16:08:55
September 24 2018 15:42 GMT
#291
From all reports the White House claims he is going to resign. I doubt he is going to and Trump is going to have to force Sessions to fire him, which Sessions won’t do.
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xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
September 24 2018 15:51 GMT
#292
On September 25 2018 00:42 Plansix wrote:
Really, because Carrie Johnson from NPR just said she cannot confirm he resigned and he is meeting with the White House this morning.

Whether he resigns now or resigns later is really bedsides the point. The FISA application declassification order put an expiration date on Rosenstein. The NYT article from Friday makes also it impossible for him to remain in his current capacity much longer.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
September 24 2018 16:09 GMT
#293
On September 25 2018 00:51 xDaunt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 25 2018 00:42 Plansix wrote:
Really, because Carrie Johnson from NPR just said she cannot confirm he resigned and he is meeting with the White House this morning.

Whether he resigns now or resigns later is really bedsides the point. The FISA application declassification order put an expiration date on Rosenstein. The NYT article from Friday makes also it impossible for him to remain in his current capacity much longer.

You do know Trump walked that order back?
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
September 24 2018 16:14 GMT
#294
On September 25 2018 01:09 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 25 2018 00:51 xDaunt wrote:
On September 25 2018 00:42 Plansix wrote:
Really, because Carrie Johnson from NPR just said she cannot confirm he resigned and he is meeting with the White House this morning.

Whether he resigns now or resigns later is really bedsides the point. The FISA application declassification order put an expiration date on Rosenstein. The NYT article from Friday makes also it impossible for him to remain in his current capacity much longer.

You do know Trump walked that order back?

Nope. This has been widely misreported. Trump has not rescinded the order at all. He said that he would let the DOJ/NSA go through their review process and that he'd consider their redactions instead of simply releasing everything.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-09-24 16:31:57
September 24 2018 16:21 GMT
#295
On September 25 2018 01:14 xDaunt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 25 2018 01:09 Plansix wrote:
On September 25 2018 00:51 xDaunt wrote:
On September 25 2018 00:42 Plansix wrote:
Really, because Carrie Johnson from NPR just said she cannot confirm he resigned and he is meeting with the White House this morning.

Whether he resigns now or resigns later is really bedsides the point. The FISA application declassification order put an expiration date on Rosenstein. The NYT article from Friday makes also it impossible for him to remain in his current capacity much longer.

You do know Trump walked that order back?

Nope. This has been widely misreported. Trump has not rescinded the order at all. He said that he would let the DOJ/NSA go through their review process and that he'd consider their redactions instead of simply releasing everything.

The DOJ and NSA has already agreed upon releasing a redacted copy of the fire before Trumps order. His order effectively required them to release an unredacted copy. He then walked it back, agreeing to go with their input, effective restoring the status quo from before his order.



This accurately sums up the reporting today.
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xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
September 24 2018 17:22 GMT
#296
On September 25 2018 01:21 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 25 2018 01:14 xDaunt wrote:
On September 25 2018 01:09 Plansix wrote:
On September 25 2018 00:51 xDaunt wrote:
On September 25 2018 00:42 Plansix wrote:
Really, because Carrie Johnson from NPR just said she cannot confirm he resigned and he is meeting with the White House this morning.

Whether he resigns now or resigns later is really bedsides the point. The FISA application declassification order put an expiration date on Rosenstein. The NYT article from Friday makes also it impossible for him to remain in his current capacity much longer.

You do know Trump walked that order back?

Nope. This has been widely misreported. Trump has not rescinded the order at all. He said that he would let the DOJ/NSA go through their review process and that he'd consider their redactions instead of simply releasing everything.

The DOJ and NSA has already agreed upon releasing a redacted copy of the fire before Trumps order. His order effectively required them to release an unredacted copy. He then walked it back, agreeing to go with their input, effective restoring the status quo from before his order.

The source of the stories reporting Trump walking back the order was Trump's tweets on Friday regarding the same. But those tweets merely say that Trump is going to indulge inspector general reviewing everything on an expedited basis. This stuff is coming out.
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States24253 Posts
September 24 2018 17:24 GMT
#297
On September 25 2018 01:21 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 25 2018 01:14 xDaunt wrote:
On September 25 2018 01:09 Plansix wrote:
On September 25 2018 00:51 xDaunt wrote:
On September 25 2018 00:42 Plansix wrote:
Really, because Carrie Johnson from NPR just said she cannot confirm he resigned and he is meeting with the White House this morning.

Whether he resigns now or resigns later is really bedsides the point. The FISA application declassification order put an expiration date on Rosenstein. The NYT article from Friday makes also it impossible for him to remain in his current capacity much longer.

You do know Trump walked that order back?

Nope. This has been widely misreported. Trump has not rescinded the order at all. He said that he would let the DOJ/NSA go through their review process and that he'd consider their redactions instead of simply releasing everything.

The DOJ and NSA has already agreed upon releasing a redacted copy of the fire before Trumps order. His order effectively required them to release an unredacted copy. He then walked it back, agreeing to go with their input, effective restoring the status quo from before his order.

https://twitter.com/petersuderman/status/1044255410075709441

This accurately sums up the reporting today.


That's what happens when "news" agencies want to be first more than they want to be accurate.
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
September 24 2018 17:26 GMT
#298
On September 25 2018 02:22 xDaunt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 25 2018 01:21 Plansix wrote:
On September 25 2018 01:14 xDaunt wrote:
On September 25 2018 01:09 Plansix wrote:
On September 25 2018 00:51 xDaunt wrote:
On September 25 2018 00:42 Plansix wrote:
Really, because Carrie Johnson from NPR just said she cannot confirm he resigned and he is meeting with the White House this morning.

Whether he resigns now or resigns later is really bedsides the point. The FISA application declassification order put an expiration date on Rosenstein. The NYT article from Friday makes also it impossible for him to remain in his current capacity much longer.

You do know Trump walked that order back?

Nope. This has been widely misreported. Trump has not rescinded the order at all. He said that he would let the DOJ/NSA go through their review process and that he'd consider their redactions instead of simply releasing everything.

The DOJ and NSA has already agreed upon releasing a redacted copy of the fire before Trumps order. His order effectively required them to release an unredacted copy. He then walked it back, agreeing to go with their input, effective restoring the status quo from before his order.

The source of the stories reporting Trump walking back the order was Trump's tweets on Friday regarding the same. But those tweets merely say that Trump is going to indulge inspector general reviewing everything on an expedited basis. This stuff is coming out.

Stuff was already coming out. And Rod is still on the job, didn’t resign, not fired yet. Thursday maybe.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
September 24 2018 17:36 GMT
#299
On September 25 2018 02:26 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 25 2018 02:22 xDaunt wrote:
On September 25 2018 01:21 Plansix wrote:
On September 25 2018 01:14 xDaunt wrote:
On September 25 2018 01:09 Plansix wrote:
On September 25 2018 00:51 xDaunt wrote:
On September 25 2018 00:42 Plansix wrote:
Really, because Carrie Johnson from NPR just said she cannot confirm he resigned and he is meeting with the White House this morning.

Whether he resigns now or resigns later is really bedsides the point. The FISA application declassification order put an expiration date on Rosenstein. The NYT article from Friday makes also it impossible for him to remain in his current capacity much longer.

You do know Trump walked that order back?

Nope. This has been widely misreported. Trump has not rescinded the order at all. He said that he would let the DOJ/NSA go through their review process and that he'd consider their redactions instead of simply releasing everything.

The DOJ and NSA has already agreed upon releasing a redacted copy of the fire before Trumps order. His order effectively required them to release an unredacted copy. He then walked it back, agreeing to go with their input, effective restoring the status quo from before his order.

The source of the stories reporting Trump walking back the order was Trump's tweets on Friday regarding the same. But those tweets merely say that Trump is going to indulge inspector general reviewing everything on an expedited basis. This stuff is coming out.

Stuff was already coming out. And Rod is still on the job, didn’t resign, not fired yet. Thursday maybe.

Do you really think that Rosenstein is going to survive until the midterms?
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
September 24 2018 17:40 GMT
#300
On September 25 2018 02:36 xDaunt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 25 2018 02:26 Plansix wrote:
On September 25 2018 02:22 xDaunt wrote:
On September 25 2018 01:21 Plansix wrote:
On September 25 2018 01:14 xDaunt wrote:
On September 25 2018 01:09 Plansix wrote:
On September 25 2018 00:51 xDaunt wrote:
On September 25 2018 00:42 Plansix wrote:
Really, because Carrie Johnson from NPR just said she cannot confirm he resigned and he is meeting with the White House this morning.

Whether he resigns now or resigns later is really bedsides the point. The FISA application declassification order put an expiration date on Rosenstein. The NYT article from Friday makes also it impossible for him to remain in his current capacity much longer.

You do know Trump walked that order back?

Nope. This has been widely misreported. Trump has not rescinded the order at all. He said that he would let the DOJ/NSA go through their review process and that he'd consider their redactions instead of simply releasing everything.

The DOJ and NSA has already agreed upon releasing a redacted copy of the fire before Trumps order. His order effectively required them to release an unredacted copy. He then walked it back, agreeing to go with their input, effective restoring the status quo from before his order.

The source of the stories reporting Trump walking back the order was Trump's tweets on Friday regarding the same. But those tweets merely say that Trump is going to indulge inspector general reviewing everything on an expedited basis. This stuff is coming out.

Stuff was already coming out. And Rod is still on the job, didn’t resign, not fired yet. Thursday maybe.

Do you really think that Rosenstein is going to survive until the midterms?

Trump is to chicken shit to fire him and he isn’t going to resign. Unless Trump grows a spine, he isn’t leaving.
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