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On March 21 2007 04:48 Cpt Obvious wrote:
Smurg:
Talking german isn't wrong in Germany, either. But I'm talking english in here. Why? Because it's a freaking American forum led by people who do not speak german (well, most of them).
this isnt an american forum you fucking retard... this is a dutch forum or international at best.
but ok lets get righteous about whats immoral and illegal.... lets fucking ban everyone who has made a DRUG thread... its illega, immoral and i dont want "my kids" to be arround stupid crackheads.
oh wait... but half of the staff does drugs... and some of them hard drugs, oh shitz we have a congruene problem batman!.
hypocrits.
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yeah I know its out of line, just trying to prove a point.
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On March 21 2007 04:43 JudasT wrote:Show nested quote +On March 21 2007 04:24 baal wrote:
good point about japan... what if chibi were japanese talking about how freaking how 13yos were and how much he wasnt to sex em up... that would be perfectly fine, it would be legal and fine.
The world doesnt have to obey your perception of morality, in some countries Mora (teroru) would be an outlaw man fucker, do we ban him? fucking no why? because we have to keep an open mind to different values than ours.
Chibi wasnt harming anybody nor insulting anybody, it was just a bunch of closed minded retards who GOT offended by posts made by chibi not directed to them in any way.
PS: testie stop being an hypocrite, you were fucking a girl much younger than yourself Baal, probably in the future you'll have a precious baby, and you'll think different about tolerance... Anyway I can't understand how you can compare homosexuallity with pedophilia ?
why the fuck no? its a sexual preference (deviation), and we are talking about lusting not raping anybody.
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On March 21 2007 05:16 thedeadhaji wrote:
btw i'm not sure if this counts, but Chibi did post pics of animaged girls who fit right into the lolita category (undeveloped sexual organs, thin limbs and the like) on many occasions and declared his lust for such images. >__>
I don't think his motivation for doing so was to make a "post images of hot underaged girls" thread.
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On March 21 2007 05:14 travis wrote:Show nested quote +On March 21 2007 05:10 JudasT wrote:On March 21 2007 05:04 mdb wrote:
I am 100% sure that all of you guys who condemn Chibi ,have made pedo jokes or laughed at pedo jokes.And am 100% that all of you have mastrubated on 13-14 year old girls. Also I am 100% sure that Chibi is not a pedophile.I doubt that he kidnapes and rapes little girls. I'm 100% sure you don't know what is a pedophile if you've never been attracted to a girl under the legal age of consent for your country, you're either: 1.) gay 2.) blind
What is the point ?, please read my answer again, he said: "I doubt that he kidnapes and rapes little girls" I just wanted to tell him that you don't have to be 100% sure of something that you even don't know what it is, thats all.
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On March 21 2007 05:07 Hasse wrote:Show nested quote +On March 21 2007 05:00 JudasT wrote:
Ok so you think culture is on top of human rights ?, what about female genital mutilation in some countries, is that OK, should we tolerate it ?.
I don't think you have to put in one side the funny/valuable posts and in the other side the punishable ones. Mensrea posted some comandments and that is the law here, no matter how funny the terrorists can be right ? Show nested quote +2. THOU SHALL OBSERVE FORUM ETIQUETTE
-Racist remarks will be shot down and you will be lynched.
- DO NOT POST ANYTHING IN ALL CAPS IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU'RE SCREAMING LIKE A RAVING LUNATIC AND WE WILL BE FORCED TO TREAT YOU LIKE ONE AAAAAHHHHHHHH!!!!!!! Show nested quote +On March 21 2007 01:58 Rekrul wrote:
THESE DTP NIGGAS COME READY FOR WAR
SO DON'T START THE GAME IF YOU WON'T SETTLE THE SCORE
I find this amusing.
Everyone is equal, but some are more equal than others..
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Judast I am sure that you pretty good understood what I meant. I know what pedophile is. If one of the symptoms is to have sexual attraction to underaged girl then...I am pedo too.
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On March 21 2007 05:21 JudasT wrote:Show nested quote +On March 21 2007 05:14 travis wrote:On March 21 2007 05:10 JudasT wrote:On March 21 2007 05:04 mdb wrote:
I am 100% sure that all of you guys who condemn Chibi ,have made pedo jokes or laughed at pedo jokes.And am 100% that all of you have mastrubated on 13-14 year old girls. Also I am 100% sure that Chibi is not a pedophile.I doubt that he kidnapes and rapes little girls. I'm 100% sure you don't know what is a pedophile if you've never been attracted to a girl under the legal age of consent for your country, you're either: 1.) gay 2.) blind What is the point ?, please read my answer again, he said: "I doubt that he kidnapes and rapes little girls" I just wanted to tell him that you don't have to be 100% sure of something that you even don't know what it is, thats all.
well I understood what he meant just fine
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First: If Chibi is punished because he kept mass posting about it after promising he won't do it, I'm ok with it. If it's true he recognized he was going to far, promised to stop and then keep doing it he clearly put himself into the problem.
Second: MOST of you are confusing "pedophile" with "rapist". A pedophile is a person attracted for your girls / boys. A gerontophile (don't sure about this word) is a person attracted for old women / men. There are even "philias" with extremely fat, rich people, ill people, your kidnappers, etc etc. A pedophile is not going to rape your children, as an homosexual is not going to rape you.
Third: If you have seen the table previously posted, here in Spain the age of consent is 13. It means that a 13 yo girl can have sexual relations with anyone if she wants to, because at that age she already is sexualy mature (average age for fist ovulation is 13). Obviously this law was made to protect 18(adult age here) yo to go to jail because his girlfriend was just 5 years younger and not to allow a 40 year old sick to sleep with 13 yo girls, that's why the consent part is added. I understand all the troubles it makes, I understand it is hard to talk about it without misundertandings. How in hell can a 13 year old be mature enough to understand a sexual relation and consent it?! The answer is that she won't. 1 / 1.000.000 13-15 year old girls will consent a sexual relation with a man over 30 yo. Conclusion: The sexual relation age of consent law is just a measure to protect non guilty relationships, not a barrier to allow mad sex if you surpase it.
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Every community has its own moral codes enforced by the leaders of the community or the community itself. Whether it be that randomly killing someone or doing a somersault is wrong and immoral doesn't really matter.
What I understand the reasoning behind the ban to be is that he broke the moral code repeatedly (pedophilia being considered wrong, immoral, against the rules, etc) and so was banned. I don't think anyone, upon looking at this, disagrees that he broke the moral code of TL.net, as decided by the moderators.
The question is more so whether or not the moral code is just (ie shared with the individual in question) or not. Is talking about pedophilia and essentially admitting to be a pedophile wrong? If you consider it wrong or unacceptable, you support the actions taken against it/him. If you don't, then you similarly don't support the consequences decided by the higher-ups.
Personally I agree with the administrators decision: I view pedophilia an unacceptable trait, and the constant mentions of situations which imply pedophilia-like desires with no remorse not tolerable.
You may say that there is no freedom in this, in banning someone because of a personal, emotional, sexual desire. But remember that we all have a limit to how much and what type of freedom is acceptable. While you may support 'freedom', that likely means that you support the right to do or say certain things without fear of punishment or retribution, but I'm sure that there are things that are still considered unacceptable in your mind. Murder or robbery would be a likely example of an unacceptable action in an otherwise free society.
I'm for freedom to a point, but Chibi has passed that boundary; justice, handed down by the community leaders, must follow. And so it has.
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On March 21 2007 05:28 Telemako wrote:
First: If Chibi is punished because he kept mass posting about it after promising he won't do it, I'm ok with it. If it's true he recognized he was going to far, promised to stop and then keep doing it he clearly put himself into the problem.
That event never actually happened.
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good to know an idiot with 185 posts agrees that Chibi has crossed the line...
seriously people who have no fucking idea whats going on GTFO of the thread.
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On March 21 2007 05:35 baal wrote:
good to know an idiot with 185 posts agrees that Chibi has crossed the line...
seriously people who have no fucking idea whats going on GTFO of the thread.
Must be a hot day in Mexico.
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Sorry mdb, I probably didn't know exacly what the pedophilia term meant, but I do think that nobody should be sexually attracted by a child. I'm of course sexually attracted by adolescents (>15 ?), but not by children.
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On March 21 2007 05:38 JudasT wrote:
Sorry mdb, I probably didn't know exacly what the pedophilia term meant, but I do think that nobody should be sexually attracted by a child. I'm of course sexually attracted by adolescents (>15 ?), but not by children.
some of the people here don't see a gray area somehow
they think that a girl magically becomes attractive at age 18 and cannot be considered attractive before then
not that any of this is relevant
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On March 21 2007 05:37 bearnet2001 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 21 2007 05:35 baal wrote:
good to know an idiot with 185 posts agrees that Chibi has crossed the line...
seriously people who have no fucking idea whats going on GTFO of the thread. Must be a hot day in Mexico.
Since you've been here since 2004, some people expect your post count to be 10k+.
It's a shame that people think post count defines what they can and can't say here.
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Travis, have you noticed that this topic, the one this thread is about, has brought you back to TL.net? At least in the way of posting a lot, whether it's in this forum or the other one.
Originally, I didn't want to say anything, but look how many times you've responded in this page alone, as well as the other thread.
Kind of interesting is all.
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On March 21 2007 05:38 JudasT wrote:
Sorry mdb, I probably didn't know exacly what the pedophilia term meant, but I do think that nobody should be sexually attracted by a child. I'm of course sexually attracted by adolescents (>15 ?), but not by children.
What's age of consent in Spain?
12-13?
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On March 21 2007 05:38 JudasT wrote:
Sorry mdb, I probably didn't know exacly what the pedophilia term meant, but I do think that nobody should be sexually attracted by a child. I'm of course sexually attracted by adolescents (>15 ?), but not by children.
no men should be sexually attracted to other men... but hey... it happens.
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I didn't know, but Telemako said its 13.
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On March 21 2007 05:42 PuertoRican wrote:Show nested quote +On March 21 2007 05:37 bearnet2001 wrote:On March 21 2007 05:35 baal wrote:
good to know an idiot with 185 posts agrees that Chibi has crossed the line...
seriously people who have no fucking idea whats going on GTFO of the thread. Must be a hot day in Mexico. Since you've been here since 2004, some people expect your post count to be 10k+. It's a shame that people think post count defines what they can and can't say here. <hr>
yeah he has been lurking and reading tl.net every day for the past 3 years only posting once every week... right.
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