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On November 03 2016 06:57 GTR wrote:
I've created a Google Form/Spreadsheet for people to help add eachother.

Hopefully this will makes things easier for us to find people for Mythic+ runs and what not as opposed to sifting through 150+ pages of discussion.

Form
Spreadsheet

If a moderator could add this as a moderator note at the top it'd be appreciated.
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20343 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-07-19 21:06:43
July 19 2019 21:06 GMT
#10661
On July 20 2019 06:05 Rebs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2019 05:47 Cyro wrote:
Basically impossible to find a guild as melee atm, even applying down to guilds that haven't been able to kill heroic azshara yet. People are more interested in my level 110 alts as they already have 1 havoc, don't want more and veng raid tanking basically doesn't exist (100 veng vs 1400 brewmasters on mythic logs)


Play fire mage, easy grp


I might do some of that, will have to take a close look at the spec

Waiting for the day that they make fights back to back which ideally have 12 melee and 2 ranged, lol!
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-07-20 18:26:23
July 20 2019 18:23 GMT
#10662
Limit just got Za'qul. It's pretty cool that they stream their full raid talk. Watching 'casting' of wow raiding doesn't do much for me but this is quite interesting to have on in the background.
Neosteel Enthusiast
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
July 20 2019 23:33 GMT
#10663
Yeah don't get why Method doesn't stream there's, they basically stream everything else. Also, no offence to them, but they are making as much money possible from these worlds first races I thought "selling out" for tactics/voice comms would be worth it for them. Maybe next tier they will do it i guess.

Limit have a good lead now and Mehtod basically wiped Saturday off to do mass splits and now M+ and then will go hard Sunday onwards.
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
Alventenie
Profile Joined July 2007
United States2147 Posts
July 21 2019 01:14 GMT
#10664
On July 21 2019 08:33 Pandemona wrote:
Yeah don't get why Method doesn't stream there's, they basically stream everything else. Also, no offence to them, but they are making as much money possible from these worlds first races I thought "selling out" for tactics/voice comms would be worth it for them. Maybe next tier they will do it i guess.

Limit have a good lead now and Mehtod basically wiped Saturday off to do mass splits and now M+ and then will go hard Sunday onwards.


I think Method isn't as behind as people believe. Limit surely is ahead, but I doubt any doing splits for method today will change much in the long run. They have to do them eventually before reset and they chose now instead of possibly later in the week. It will make them spend less time on actually killing zaqul (hopefully), and then they can just keep focusing on azshara, which right now looks honestly unkillable this reset atm. Maybe Limit figures out a bunch more, but getting into P2 and they are getting wrecked by the dps check on the 2nd add (if they even live to that).

So far this race has been awesome, limit's comms have been great to listen to, and people going back and forth with boss kills is pretty cool to see that its not just all one side winning on each boss.
FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-07-21 15:16:54
July 21 2019 15:16 GMT
#10665
Za'qul must require some insane execution. We saw Limit wipe at very low % so so many times and now Method is having the same problems where they know what to do but execution is hard.
Neosteel Enthusiast
Alventenie
Profile Joined July 2007
United States2147 Posts
July 21 2019 16:48 GMT
#10666
I think the overall strategy is pretty important. We keep seeing people die for method after the 2nd psychotic split in the final burn. They need to figure out whats killing them and get those players to stop dying. Limit had the same issues where people died to avoidable things in those last %s, so if Method can fix those things they certain can kill it.

Looking at scripes PoV atm, in the delirium realm their mages at the end are killing the rogues with ignite spread, which isn't what you want to do in the last burn lol.
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22517 Posts
July 21 2019 16:52 GMT
#10667
On July 22 2019 01:48 Alventenie wrote:
I think the overall strategy is pretty important. We keep seeing people die for method after the 2nd psychotic split in the final burn. They need to figure out whats killing them and get those players to stop dying. Limit had the same issues where people died to avoidable things in those last %s, so if Method can fix those things they certain can kill it.

Looking at scripes PoV atm, in the delirium realm their mages at the end are killing the rogues with ignite spread, which isn't what you want to do in the last burn lol.
Which is probably why Limit used 3 rogues and a warlock to do it and not their mages.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
TomatoBisque
Profile Joined March 2013
United States6290 Posts
July 22 2019 05:12 GMT
#10668
On July 21 2019 08:33 Pandemona wrote:
Yeah don't get why Method doesn't stream there's, they basically stream everything else. Also, no offence to them, but they are making as much money possible from these worlds first races I thought "selling out" for tactics/voice comms would be worth it for them. Maybe next tier they will do it i guess.

Their stated reason is they don't want their raiders to have to censor themselves for twitch/streaming purposes.
rip
Zambrah
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States7393 Posts
July 22 2019 12:11 GMT
#10669
What do they have to censor? Like language? Are they above and beyond foul-mouthed or something, lol
Incremental change is the Democrat version of Trickle Down economics.
Unleashing
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark14978 Posts
July 22 2019 14:16 GMT
#10670
There's also the question of if Josh is allowed to talk if it can be heard on twitch
From the Ghastly Eyrie I can see to the ends of the world, and from this vantage point I declare with utter certainty that this one is in the bag!
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
July 22 2019 14:26 GMT
#10671
True maybe it that might be more of a thing, not sure the rulings but aren't you not allowed to stream "with" someone who is permabanned on Twitch?
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22517 Posts
July 22 2019 14:27 GMT
#10672
On July 22 2019 23:16 Unleashing wrote:
There's also the question of if Josh is allowed to talk if it can be heard on twitch
A convenient excuse for people to make but nothing more.
Method didn't stream comms the last 2 races either.

And while Twitch has such a rule to stop people from dodging bans by appears on other streams I HIGHLY doubt Twitch would ban the Method channel just because one voice out of 20 technically isn't allowed.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
TomatoBisque
Profile Joined March 2013
United States6290 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-07-22 14:32:40
July 22 2019 14:32 GMT
#10673
On July 22 2019 21:11 Zambrah wrote:
What do they have to censor? Like language? Are they above and beyond foul-mouthed or something, lol

I dunno, their statement included stuff like not wanting people to clip them out of context or being made fun of

Also the Josh thing isn't a big deal allegedly, he can be on stream as long he isn't the focus
rip
Unleashing
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark14978 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-07-22 14:41:04
July 22 2019 14:40 GMT
#10674
On July 22 2019 23:27 Gorsameth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2019 23:16 Unleashing wrote:
There's also the question of if Josh is allowed to talk if it can be heard on twitch
A convenient excuse for people to make but nothing more.
Method didn't stream comms the last 2 races either.

And while Twitch has such a rule to stop people from dodging bans by appears on other streams I HIGHLY doubt Twitch would ban the Method channel just because one voice out of 20 technically isn't allowed.

Can't really compare past world first streams with this since this is the first time they've had as much competition in the streaming sphere.

Other people streaming comms might pressure Method to look into it.
From the Ghastly Eyrie I can see to the ends of the world, and from this vantage point I declare with utter certainty that this one is in the bag!
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20343 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-07-23 15:00:50
July 23 2019 04:27 GMT
#10675
On July 22 2019 21:11 Zambrah wrote:
What do they have to censor? Like language? Are they above and beyond foul-mouthed or something, lol


Some of their members have a history of saying things even in public that sponsors wouldn't touch with a 10ft pole. It's way worse publicity if it's being clipped off of a Method(tm) world first stream rather than just being a message on a social media account labeled MethodName.

One of their players, Josh, got a twitch permaban some weeks ago. It seems to be because of "edgy / incel-like" comments that he claims were "just jokes" and relatedly threatening/harassing somebody IRL on-stream.




Anecdotally i'd say that it's not just Method, the WoW community as a whole has a real problem with sexist/lgbt-phobic/racist/ableist and similar attacks which are "just jokes"; people that consider "having a sense of humor" to be synonymous with putting down minorities that don't want the comments and aren't in a position to defend themselves.

It's extremely difficult to avoid them and i've had to leave several guilds - two just in the first half of BFA - which seemed fine, only for an officer or part of the main clique to say "ni**er fa**ot" or go on a rant about attack helicoptors and autism or what positions they're gonna take up when they're raping azshara in explicit detail during the first raid. It's not a huge percentage of players that partake in that kind of cancerous behavior but the many rarely step out of their way to moderate the few and sometimes they even encourage it which creates an environment for it to flourish.

Blizzard is also directly responsible in part as they give exclusive privileges to some of these people as they run out-of-game communities where they take part in and encourage such behavior.

The demon hunter community that they selected to recieve those privelages ranges from hundreds to tens of thousands of results in quick searches for slurs like "ni**er", "fa**ot", "tran**" and similar, many from the admins, even "copypasta" paragraphs on a server bot which incorporate them. They're openly racist, sexist, lgbt-phobic, everything under the sun and they're proud of it. They have whole channels dedicated to unmoderated hate "memes" despite it being against the discord TOS. They have been used to lead out-of-game harassment and doxxing campaigns against people who run or ran alternate communities to avoid those exact problems, in some cases leading to those communities being entirely shut down, and have bullied their way into being the only voice featured on mainstream sites like wowhead, icy veins and MMO-champion.

Honestly i can't believe that this sort of thing isn't talked about more often; it's disgusting and it has a huge impact on the viability and enjoyment of the game. MMO's are social games first and foremost.

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My Vers weight is >1.5x higher than Mastery again because of some scaling quirks, e.g. essences not scaling with Mastery or Haste. It's so distorted that a 50/50/0/0 distribution of secondaries gives more DPS than 40/40/10/10.

Mastery has been pretty useless since the BFA Alpha as it only buffs chaos damage. I did 92% chaos damage on ST in 7.3.5 but currently i'm doing 37% chaos because of design changes in the class and related mechanics like azerite essences.

I'm hoping at this point that they just delete vers in 9.0 with how boring it is to stack all of your secondaries into, a char with 2000 vers feels exactly the same as a char with 0 vers but just has some bigger numbers. The exact same class design would be quite a bit more fun if we could play it with mastery/haste stack instead of vers crit agility
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20343 Posts
July 24 2019 09:08 GMT
#10676
A thousand guilds at 3 mythic, 84 of them at 4. That's a wall larger than blizz usually allows to stand for long :D
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Alventenie
Profile Joined July 2007
United States2147 Posts
July 24 2019 20:34 GMT
#10677
On July 24 2019 18:08 Cyro wrote:
A thousand guilds at 3 mythic, 84 of them at 4. That's a wall larger than blizz usually allows to stand for long :D



We made progress this week on Asvhane after reclearing farm. Last week we barely breaking 2nd shield, this week on Tuesday we got 3 pulls in at end of night and broke 2nd shield already, so we definitely felt the difference in gear. But it will be interesting to see how rest of week goes since we still might not have enough and it would be pretty frustrating to be stuck on ashvane for weeks just due to a rough dps check. Our raid for reference is already 431 overall, and on pulls closer to like 434, so not sure how much higher as a raid we are supposed to be for us to effectively kill the boss.

We aren't the best, but world ~350ish, and in BoD cleared through opulence early week 2, so hopefully we get really close to ashvane this week (or kill her). I definitely think even a small hp nerf will allow a lot of guilds to kill it quickly though just due to how her shield works.
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20343 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-07-26 14:25:35
July 26 2019 14:16 GMT
#10678
https://old.reddit.com/r/wow/comments/ci1nkz/blizzard_refunds_cloth_azerite_shoulders_but/

I don't like the bias here, it's clear that shadow priests were more negatively affected but it's a major bug which screwed people out of 2+ weeks of residuum and often more so why not undo it for everyone that was negatively affected?

tl;dr two azerite pieces were incorrectly not available from the random residuum roll, one leather shoulder and one cloth shoulder. GM's have been instructed to offer refunds to all cloth wearers but absolutely not for any leather users on the basis of the piece being more important for shadow priests than for anyone else.

There real problem here is that those spriest shoulders literally have no equivalent beyond ilvl 415 so they felt they had to refund TR to people who tried to get them - because literally any other shoulder piece they get instead of those will be instantly scrapped because no spriest will want them. How they managed to put just one viable shoulder piece in the game for spriests at heroic and mythic ilvl, for which you can either gamble or wait 10 weeks to buy them, is beyond me.


That is a particularly bad state of gear imbalance which should be hotfixed ASAP if not already IMO.
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
July 26 2019 19:58 GMT
#10679
Yeah that is weird, just refund everyone man, silly blizzardo.
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
July 28 2019 15:38 GMT
#10680
Method claim the world first! Boss was up quite a while but after those close 5% wipes for them yesterday and Limit only getting to 12% yesterday Method took it today.
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
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