[Tabletop] Enter Iris - Page 89

On July 16 2015 02:49 TheYango wrote:

This isn't something new exclusive to PTU. What they call a "scene" is called an "encounter" by 3.5E/4E terminology. The idea of "encounter-based design" was explored in depth in 3.5E in Tome of Battle, and WotC went super-overboard with it in 4E. The 4E encounter definition was arguably a bit too lenient, and the strength of short rest HP recovery disproportionately high, which resulted in some design that was very jarring to players accustomed to 3.5E.

The 1-hr short rest in 5E was probably a compromise and a way to dial back to a happy medium between per-encounter and per-day abilities.

On July 16 2015 02:58 Lord Tolkien wrote:
When we take a short rest, it will be in the spellbook room because goddamnit, I need that rope trick. Now that I'm level 5, I get back a total of 1 spell slot from using it the first time (instead of net netural). How I'm going to find the gold to learn it, I'll figure out after this dungeon, but dangnabit.

As a character, Gimble would like to...well,
+ Show Spoiler +, but I've got a cranky human busy yapping at me. So.

On July 16 2015 02:59 TheYango wrote:
Just ONE cranky human?

On July 16 2015 02:58 Lord Tolkien wrote:
When we take a short rest, it will be in the spellbook room because goddamnit, I need that rope trick. Now that I'm level 5, I get back a total of 1 spell slot from using it the first time (instead of net netural). How I'm going to find the gold to learn it, I'll figure out after this dungeon, but dangnabit.

As a character, Gimble would like to...well,
+ Show Spoiler +, but I've got a cranky human busy yapping at me. So.

On July 16 2015 03:01 Lord Tolkien wrote:

Yes. We've met our racial/disability quota for "non-nightvision" party members.

On July 16 2015 02:59 Requizen wrote:
Still, short rests could be houseruled to something similar (for ability cooldowns, at any rate) with very little drawback. It doesn't feel particularly RP fun to say "and then they sat down for an hour to catch their breath". Sure, it doesn't hurt, but it's just book keeping at that point, imo.

On July 16 2015 03:01 Lord Tolkien wrote:

Yes. We've met our racial/disability quota for "non-nightvision" party members.

On July 16 2015 03:06 AsmodeusXI wrote:
My contributions to this discussion at the moment are as follows:

I will almost always design dungeons that are more complex than necessary. Sure there will be some "mandatory" pauses for puzzling (and baddies) but you are free to explore everything as much or as little as you wish. I say this because I want your decisions about what to do to be more character and resource based than "Asmo meta" based.

Secondly I'm glad yall are figuring this out, but I just wanna make sure that character antagonism doesn't carry into player antagonism. I know that you guys (wave and soniv) more than anybody are probably not really bothered by your disagreements and if this is the case I encourage disagreements overall, but I'd hate to develop any bad blood at the table. If you feel this happening please let me know or mention it to the player in question. Thanks bbz

On July 16 2015 03:11 AsmodeusXI wrote:
Fair enough. My highest priority is fun times so I wanna make sure that's still what's up. Killing you all horriblyProviding a challenging and thought-provoking gameplay experience is great, but not if you guys want to throttle each other in RL afterwards.

On July 16 2015 03:04 TheYango wrote:

Most of the ability recovery from short rests are pretty substantial and would require some conscious effort to sit down and do, RP-wise (e.g. Warlocks' and Wizards' spell recovery). They're not really things that make sense as simple passive recovery between encounters like the ToB per-encounter stuff.

On July 16 2015 03:21 Requizen wrote:
Heck, I think Gimble should just ride on my shoulders so he can do his work without worrying about walking.

On July 16 2015 03:21 Requizen wrote:

I suppose that's true, but historically in my group, that sort of thing ends up being sidelined anyway. Yes, it's practical and RP-y to say that you sit down and read/write in a book for a while to recover your spells (or stretch or whatever to recover your Martial abilities), but you only do it so many times before the DM goes "yeah yeah it's fine we just assume you do it every time".

So I guess I'm saying less that you just get the abilities, but more that it's just assumed that you're doing whatever you need to rather than spell it out that you're going to sit still and pore through a book and hold up the party.

Heck, I think Gimble should just ride on my shoulders so he can do his work without worrying about walking.

On July 16 2015 03:09 jcarlsoniv wrote:


Wave and I haven't killed each other over SG salt yet, so I think it's safe to say we're both fine =P

On July 19 2015 00:26 Requizen wrote:
Are we playing Tuesday? I'm trying to figure out packing schedule.

On July 19 2015 00:47 AsmodeusXI wrote:


I don't believe so, but I'll need Waverino to confirm.

On July 19 2015 01:49 WaveofShadow wrote:

It's really tough to say.
Ever waited for someone to die? It's awful.