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Blargh
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2103 Posts
August 10 2014 13:57 GMT
#61
ZvZ is an under appreciated matchup. There is actually some skill and strategy to ZvZ, even with just roaches. Just because it looks simple doesn't mean it is. If you appreciate the skill in some of it, it is much more interesting.

Though, tons of ZvZs end from one guy messing up the first major engagement and it snowballing.
TelecoM
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States10688 Posts
August 10 2014 13:57 GMT
#62
On August 10 2014 22:07 Devolved wrote:
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On August 10 2014 21:54 Gere wrote:
On August 10 2014 21:24 Devolved wrote:
How fucking boring is it to max on 1 (or 2 if you're really playing out-of-the-box) units and just bang your head against your opponent's same composition over and over until 1 person finally gets a bit of an edge and wins the game? This is not strategy. It is mundane repetitive mechanical bullshit, and it's something I can easily do without.

Are you at least top Masters yet? If not, then you probably should try playing your "simple" strategy and see if it works out. It cannot be that hard to build a single unit, right?
Most likely you will find yourself missing strategical points and losing a lot. It's easy to shout out "I know everything and I would win if only I tried"

I never claimed to be a top masters or even good at this game. Please don't put words into my mouth that were never spoken such as "I know everything" and "I would win if I only tried." I never spoke these words nor have I implied such. My commentary comes mainly from watching games as-of-late. If this is supposed to be a spectator-friendly e-sport videogame, then something really needs to be done about the ZvZ matchup, because at this point I'm just turning off the stream when another ZvZ match happens unless it's one of my absolute favorite players.


have you ever heard of speedling baneling mutalisk? Because I win almost all my ZvZ's still with it. If ZvZ is boring or mundane for you than play a different race or stop playing boring and mundane. Just because YOU think there is only one way to play the game, doesn't mean that it's true.
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Dangermousecatdog
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom7084 Posts
August 10 2014 13:57 GMT
#63
On August 10 2014 21:24 Devolved wrote:
I took a break from SC2 a while back, but since I have come back I've been watching a lot of tournament streams to get caught up on strategies and just the scene in general. Every single ZvZ I've seen (and there's been a ton of them) is just the same Roach vs. Roach battle with maybe some Hydras mixed in for some extra DPS. It's boring, it's repetitive, and if this is the future of SC2 I don't know why I even bothered returning.

How fucking boring is it to max on 1 (or 2 if you're really playing out-of-the-box) units and just bang your head against your opponent's same composition over and over until 1 person finally gets a bit of an edge and wins the game? This is not strategy. It is mundane repetitive mechanical bullshit, and it's something I can easily do without.

So all you do is watch streams and you feel it's boring. I would say you should a take a break from SC2 permanently but it appears that you don't even play the game.
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
August 10 2014 14:01 GMT
#64
Bad thread! If you want to criticize design, less personal anecdotes/whining and more constructive suggestions.
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