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vOdToasT
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Sweden2870 Posts
January 20 2014 18:42 GMT
#101
On January 21 2014 03:39 Plansix wrote:
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On January 21 2014 03:33 vOdToasT wrote:
On January 21 2014 03:32 Zealously wrote:
On January 21 2014 03:29 vOdToasT wrote:
He heavily implied that SC2 is a strategically interesting game because lots of people watch it. I brought up Justin Bieber because I hoped he would agree that his work is popular without being structurally interesting or romantically exciting, so that he would see the flaw in his argument.

I don't know what all your other stuff is about or why you're so mad.

It is a strategically interesting game. You don't think so? Fine, but that doesn't make it true nor does it diminish the strategical brilliance displayed by many pros.


That is irrelevant, I was talking about his shitty argument from popularity

When Brood War was the most popular RTS game, it wasn't good because of its popularity. Its popularity was not evidence of its quality. It was good because of its intrinsic traits.

You don't think so? Fine, but that doesn't make it true

It makes it true that it doesn't interest me. It's also true that it does interest you. That is a matter of fact.

Wait, your telling us that quality and popularity are not directly linked? Really? You going to tell us that water is wet next?


What do you expect me to do when someone implies an argument from popularity?
If someone says water isn't wet, then I'll point out that it is.
If it's stupid but it works, then it's not stupid* (*Or: You are stupid for losing to it, and gotta git gud)
Roe
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Canada6002 Posts
January 20 2014 18:43 GMT
#102
On January 21 2014 03:40 itsjustatank wrote:
The Quality Of Posting In This Thread Is Quite Good, I Daresay

aren't you supposed to be a paid writer for this site?
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17765 Posts
January 20 2014 18:46 GMT
#103
On January 21 2014 01:10 Plansix wrote:
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On January 21 2014 01:06 FromShouri wrote:
On January 21 2014 00:15 Ctone23 wrote:
Indeed people bitch wayyy to much. Get real, how many games out there have a shelf-life like SC2? Very few, unless you count the endless CoD games that are essentially the same thing, hhehe. The game and it's expansions have been popular for 4 years. Sure, there has been a decline, but the game has a self-sustaining market in the form of tournaments, teams, salaries, etc.

We live in that "what have you done for me lately" kind of World, but the train keeps moving with or without the nay-saying.


Brood War, the battle chest is still selling to this day in stores on shelves of businesses like walmart, best buy, and target.....

So? People still buy copies of ET for the Atari 2600 too, because they are collectors. The fact that an old game is till I sale somewhere means nothing.


really bad bad comparison man... or a troll.

approximately 9 years after release:

in 1992 ET was no where... having no distribution channel of any kind... its price is still dirt cheap.

in 2007, Brood War was the 17th best selling PC Game in North America... the Battle Chest was not just for sale "somewhere", in 2007 the Brood War BattleChest was at every Business Depot, and GameStop and EB Games.

SC64 was over $100 for many years.
Not so for "ET"... its dirt cheap.

relative to playing other 1983 games by Activision, ET is horrible and has won many many awards as "worst game ever".
from 1998 to 2001 SC1 was considered a top game... and won many 'game of the year awards'.
SC1 is a timeless classic.. and it set up SC2 big time.

Brood War is a great game and its LONG TERM popularity is objective evidence of the quality experience people have playing it.
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
itsjustatank
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Hong Kong9179 Posts
January 20 2014 18:47 GMT
#104
On January 21 2014 03:43 Roe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2014 03:40 itsjustatank wrote:
The Quality Of Posting In This Thread Is Quite Good, I Daresay

aren't you supposed to be a paid writer for this site?


that might be the funniest thing posted in this thread, actually
thanks
Photographer"nosotros estamos backamos" - setsuko
Yorbon
Profile Joined December 2011
Netherlands4272 Posts
January 20 2014 18:48 GMT
#105
On January 21 2014 03:47 itsjustatank wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2014 03:43 Roe wrote:
On January 21 2014 03:40 itsjustatank wrote:
The Quality Of Posting In This Thread Is Quite Good, I Daresay

aren't you supposed to be a paid writer for this site?


that might be the funniest thing posted in this thread, actually
thanks
Dang, i got it only after reading this. :')
dravernor
Profile Blog Joined May 2013
Netherlands6192 Posts
January 20 2014 18:49 GMT
#106
Let us save sc2 by playing an inhouse sometime!
Who is up for this?
*raises hand*
<3
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
January 20 2014 18:51 GMT
#107
On January 21 2014 03:43 Roe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2014 03:40 itsjustatank wrote:
The Quality Of Posting In This Thread Is Quite Good, I Daresay

aren't you supposed to be a paid writer for this site?


Right, about that... Tank, I think our paychecks got lost in the mail or something
AdministratorBreak the chains
itsjustatank
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Hong Kong9179 Posts
January 20 2014 18:53 GMT
#108
i dunno about you, but i do have 4 gold coins and 3 silver coins
Photographer"nosotros estamos backamos" - setsuko
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
January 20 2014 18:54 GMT
#109
Ya I got a bit of hipster cred so I suppose I might be able to buy something with that
AdministratorBreak the chains
Roe
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Canada6002 Posts
January 20 2014 18:55 GMT
#110
On January 21 2014 03:47 itsjustatank wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2014 03:43 Roe wrote:
On January 21 2014 03:40 itsjustatank wrote:
The Quality Of Posting In This Thread Is Quite Good, I Daresay

aren't you supposed to be a paid writer for this site?


that might be the funniest thing posted in this thread, actually
thanks

why?
ACrow
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany6583 Posts
January 20 2014 18:56 GMT
#111
On January 21 2014 03:54 Zealously wrote:
Ya I got a bit of hipster cred so I suppose I might be able to buy something with that

I thought you already spent it on your Cj predictions this season...
*low blow*
Get off my lawn, young punks
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
January 20 2014 18:56 GMT
#112
On January 21 2014 03:55 Roe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2014 03:47 itsjustatank wrote:
On January 21 2014 03:43 Roe wrote:
On January 21 2014 03:40 itsjustatank wrote:
The Quality Of Posting In This Thread Is Quite Good, I Daresay

aren't you supposed to be a paid writer for this site?


that might be the funniest thing posted in this thread, actually
thanks

why?


Are you serious or is this me not getting a joke?
AdministratorBreak the chains
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
January 20 2014 18:56 GMT
#113
On January 21 2014 03:42 vOdToasT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2014 03:39 Plansix wrote:
On January 21 2014 03:33 vOdToasT wrote:
On January 21 2014 03:32 Zealously wrote:
On January 21 2014 03:29 vOdToasT wrote:
He heavily implied that SC2 is a strategically interesting game because lots of people watch it. I brought up Justin Bieber because I hoped he would agree that his work is popular without being structurally interesting or romantically exciting, so that he would see the flaw in his argument.

I don't know what all your other stuff is about or why you're so mad.

It is a strategically interesting game. You don't think so? Fine, but that doesn't make it true nor does it diminish the strategical brilliance displayed by many pros.


That is irrelevant, I was talking about his shitty argument from popularity

When Brood War was the most popular RTS game, it wasn't good because of its popularity. Its popularity was not evidence of its quality. It was good because of its intrinsic traits.

You don't think so? Fine, but that doesn't make it true

It makes it true that it doesn't interest me. It's also true that it does interest you. That is a matter of fact.

Wait, your telling us that quality and popularity are not directly linked? Really? You going to tell us that water is wet next?


What do you expect me to do when someone implies an argument from popularity?
If someone says water isn't wet, then I'll point out that it is.

So fans of SC2 are the Bieber fans of the RTS world?
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
Boundz(DarKo)
Profile Joined March 2009
5311 Posts
January 20 2014 18:57 GMT
#114
Do we really need SC2 now that BW is back on first page?
Roe
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Canada6002 Posts
January 20 2014 18:59 GMT
#115
On January 21 2014 03:56 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2014 03:55 Roe wrote:
On January 21 2014 03:47 itsjustatank wrote:
On January 21 2014 03:43 Roe wrote:
On January 21 2014 03:40 itsjustatank wrote:
The Quality Of Posting In This Thread Is Quite Good, I Daresay

aren't you supposed to be a paid writer for this site?


that might be the funniest thing posted in this thread, actually
thanks

why?


Are you serious or is this me not getting a joke?

Why act like an asshat? I'm just trying to get a question answered.
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
January 20 2014 18:59 GMT
#116
On January 21 2014 03:59 Roe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2014 03:56 Zealously wrote:
On January 21 2014 03:55 Roe wrote:
On January 21 2014 03:47 itsjustatank wrote:
On January 21 2014 03:43 Roe wrote:
On January 21 2014 03:40 itsjustatank wrote:
The Quality Of Posting In This Thread Is Quite Good, I Daresay

aren't you supposed to be a paid writer for this site?


that might be the funniest thing posted in this thread, actually
thanks

why?


Are you serious or is this me not getting a joke?

Why act like an asshat? I'm just trying to get a question answered.


I'm not acting like an asshat, I thought it was common knowledge that writers don't get paid squat. I still think I'm missing something here though tt
AdministratorBreak the chains
Roe
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Canada6002 Posts
January 20 2014 19:04 GMT
#117
On January 21 2014 03:59 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2014 03:59 Roe wrote:
On January 21 2014 03:56 Zealously wrote:
On January 21 2014 03:55 Roe wrote:
On January 21 2014 03:47 itsjustatank wrote:
On January 21 2014 03:43 Roe wrote:
On January 21 2014 03:40 itsjustatank wrote:
The Quality Of Posting In This Thread Is Quite Good, I Daresay

aren't you supposed to be a paid writer for this site?


that might be the funniest thing posted in this thread, actually
thanks

why?


Are you serious or is this me not getting a joke?

Why act like an asshat? I'm just trying to get a question answered.


I'm not acting like an asshat, I thought it was common knowledge that writers don't get paid squat. I still think I'm missing something here though tt


I thought there was a posting on TL a while back for someone to write for them about Proleague and stuff.
Yorbon
Profile Joined December 2011
Netherlands4272 Posts
January 20 2014 19:04 GMT
#118
On January 21 2014 04:04 Roe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2014 03:59 Zealously wrote:
On January 21 2014 03:59 Roe wrote:
On January 21 2014 03:56 Zealously wrote:
On January 21 2014 03:55 Roe wrote:
On January 21 2014 03:47 itsjustatank wrote:
On January 21 2014 03:43 Roe wrote:
On January 21 2014 03:40 itsjustatank wrote:
The Quality Of Posting In This Thread Is Quite Good, I Daresay

aren't you supposed to be a paid writer for this site?


that might be the funniest thing posted in this thread, actually
thanks

why?


Are you serious or is this me not getting a joke?

Why act like an asshat? I'm just trying to get a question answered.


I'm not acting like an asshat, I thought it was common knowledge that writers don't get paid squat. I still think I'm missing something here though tt


I thought there was a posting on TL a while back for someone to write for them about Proleague and stuff.
But unpaid; i thought you were joking, lol
Roe
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Canada6002 Posts
January 20 2014 19:08 GMT
#119
On January 21 2014 04:04 Yorbon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2014 04:04 Roe wrote:
On January 21 2014 03:59 Zealously wrote:
On January 21 2014 03:59 Roe wrote:
On January 21 2014 03:56 Zealously wrote:
On January 21 2014 03:55 Roe wrote:
On January 21 2014 03:47 itsjustatank wrote:
On January 21 2014 03:43 Roe wrote:
On January 21 2014 03:40 itsjustatank wrote:
The Quality Of Posting In This Thread Is Quite Good, I Daresay

aren't you supposed to be a paid writer for this site?


that might be the funniest thing posted in this thread, actually
thanks

why?


Are you serious or is this me not getting a joke?

Why act like an asshat? I'm just trying to get a question answered.


I'm not acting like an asshat, I thought it was common knowledge that writers don't get paid squat. I still think I'm missing something here though tt


I thought there was a posting on TL a while back for someone to write for them about Proleague and stuff.
But unpaid; i thought you were joking, lol


No, I didn't know what the situation was with the writers. Plus I was expecting someone with the writer's avatar to write better posts
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
January 20 2014 19:12 GMT
#120
On January 21 2014 04:08 Roe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2014 04:04 Yorbon wrote:
On January 21 2014 04:04 Roe wrote:
On January 21 2014 03:59 Zealously wrote:
On January 21 2014 03:59 Roe wrote:
On January 21 2014 03:56 Zealously wrote:
On January 21 2014 03:55 Roe wrote:
On January 21 2014 03:47 itsjustatank wrote:
On January 21 2014 03:43 Roe wrote:
On January 21 2014 03:40 itsjustatank wrote:
The Quality Of Posting In This Thread Is Quite Good, I Daresay

aren't you supposed to be a paid writer for this site?


that might be the funniest thing posted in this thread, actually
thanks

why?


Are you serious or is this me not getting a joke?

Why act like an asshat? I'm just trying to get a question answered.


I'm not acting like an asshat, I thought it was common knowledge that writers don't get paid squat. I still think I'm missing something here though tt


I thought there was a posting on TL a while back for someone to write for them about Proleague and stuff.
But unpaid; i thought you were joking, lol


No, I didn't know what the situation was with the writers. Plus I was expecting someone with the writer's avatar to write better posts


Oh I think you'll find that the average post quality among writers isn't very good. I like to think that we make up for our shitposting by doing other things, though ^_^
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