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SilentchiLL
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany1405 Posts
March 24 2014 22:29 GMT
#7401
On March 25 2014 07:19 -Archangel- wrote:
I didn't see anyone comment this:


How does that suprise anyone? Their country was invaded by Russia, it's more suprising that no real conflict has broken out yet.
possum, sed nolo - Real men play random. ___ "Who the fuck is Kyle?!" C*****EX
-Archangel-
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia7457 Posts
March 24 2014 22:33 GMT
#7402
Yes, but apparently she mentions using Nuclear Weapon against Russians...
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22490 Posts
March 24 2014 22:36 GMT
#7403
On March 25 2014 07:33 -Archangel- wrote:
Yes, but apparently she mentions using Nuclear Weapon against Russians...

Funny considering Ukraine doesnt have em anymore.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
SilentchiLL
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany1405 Posts
March 24 2014 22:37 GMT
#7404
On March 25 2014 07:33 -Archangel- wrote:
Yes, but apparently she mentions using Nuclear Weapon against Russians...


Seems more like something she said out of anger, didn't the Ukraine gave up all of its nuclear weapons?
And even she should know that a nuclear strike wouldn't be left unanswered by Russia.
possum, sed nolo - Real men play random. ___ "Who the fuck is Kyle?!" C*****EX
Deleted User 137586
Profile Joined January 2011
7859 Posts
March 24 2014 23:12 GMT
#7405
So many examples of bad news in this thread, so here's something entirely different:

Cry 'havoc' and let slip the dogs of war
Sub40APM
Profile Joined August 2010
6336 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-24 23:25:44
March 24 2014 23:24 GMT
#7406
On March 25 2014 07:29 SilentchiLL wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2014 07:19 -Archangel- wrote:
I didn't see anyone comment this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6RxSzSWbcxo


How does that suprise anyone? Their country was invaded by Russia, it's more suprising that no real conflict has broken out yet.

Whats the word that RT translates as 'Russian' that isnt actually 'Russian'?
Also, kind of funny that these two Ukrainian fascists are talking in Russian among themselves.
DeepElemBlues
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States5079 Posts
March 24 2014 23:26 GMT
#7407
On March 25 2014 01:26 Sub40APM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2014 01:07 soujiro_ wrote:
Afghan president Hamid Karzai backs Russia's annexation of Crimea
Referendum reflected people's 'free will' to decide their future, says President Karzai




The Afghan president, Hamid Karzai, has backed Russia's annexation of Crimea, saying a much-criticised referendum on its future reflected its people's "free will" to decide their future.

That stance, announced at a meeting with a US congressional delegation, puts Afghanistan in company with Venezuela, Syria and a few other nations.

It was an unexpected move from a man who has little stake in Ukraine's future, spent years fighting to evict Soviet forces from his own country, and now leads a democracy funded largely by the western nations that have slapped sanctions on Moscow.

However, Karzai has always been keen to counter accusations that he is a foreign puppet, and more recently has been at odds with the United States over everything from air strikes and the forthcoming presidential election to the recent release of dozens of prisoners captured by foreign troops.

He may also be looking to strengthen regional ties, at a time when western interest in Afghanistan is fading and with it the funds the government needs to pay the army and keep the country running.

"The two sides discussed issues of regional importance, in particular the annexation of Crimea and Sevastopol to the Russian Federation," an account of the meeting issued by Karzai's office said.

"The president said that Afghanistan respects the free will of the people of Crimea to decide about their own future," the statement added, without giving further details.

Karzai travelled to Sochi for the recent Winter Olympics when many European heads of state boycotted the ceremony, and Russia is starting to put money back into Afghanistan as foreign troops leave, retooling a factory that builds prefabricated housing and opening a cultural centre among other projects.


source =>
http://www.theguardian.com/
Guess he is pretty mad the West wont let him continue to be drug king of Afghanistan while American troops protect him.


When the Taliban take Kabul after we leave I hope they call us up and give us the chance to tell Karzai to screw off one last time right before he gets beheaded.
no place i'd rather be than the satellite of love
Sub40APM
Profile Joined August 2010
6336 Posts
March 24 2014 23:27 GMT
#7408
On March 25 2014 08:26 DeepElemBlues wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2014 01:26 Sub40APM wrote:
On March 25 2014 01:07 soujiro_ wrote:
Afghan president Hamid Karzai backs Russia's annexation of Crimea
Referendum reflected people's 'free will' to decide their future, says President Karzai




The Afghan president, Hamid Karzai, has backed Russia's annexation of Crimea, saying a much-criticised referendum on its future reflected its people's "free will" to decide their future.

That stance, announced at a meeting with a US congressional delegation, puts Afghanistan in company with Venezuela, Syria and a few other nations.

It was an unexpected move from a man who has little stake in Ukraine's future, spent years fighting to evict Soviet forces from his own country, and now leads a democracy funded largely by the western nations that have slapped sanctions on Moscow.

However, Karzai has always been keen to counter accusations that he is a foreign puppet, and more recently has been at odds with the United States over everything from air strikes and the forthcoming presidential election to the recent release of dozens of prisoners captured by foreign troops.

He may also be looking to strengthen regional ties, at a time when western interest in Afghanistan is fading and with it the funds the government needs to pay the army and keep the country running.

"The two sides discussed issues of regional importance, in particular the annexation of Crimea and Sevastopol to the Russian Federation," an account of the meeting issued by Karzai's office said.

"The president said that Afghanistan respects the free will of the people of Crimea to decide about their own future," the statement added, without giving further details.

Karzai travelled to Sochi for the recent Winter Olympics when many European heads of state boycotted the ceremony, and Russia is starting to put money back into Afghanistan as foreign troops leave, retooling a factory that builds prefabricated housing and opening a cultural centre among other projects.


source =>
http://www.theguardian.com/
Guess he is pretty mad the West wont let him continue to be drug king of Afghanistan while American troops protect him.


When the Taliban take Kabul after we leave I hope they call us up and give us the chance to tell Karzai to screw off one last time right before he gets beheaded.

He's going to be in Dubai long before that. They've been hauling money out of Kabul for years now.
Greem
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
730 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-25 07:37:15
March 25 2014 00:02 GMT
#7409
On March 25 2014 08:24 Sub40APM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2014 07:29 SilentchiLL wrote:
On March 25 2014 07:19 -Archangel- wrote:
I didn't see anyone comment this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6RxSzSWbcxo


How does that suprise anyone? Their country was invaded by Russia, it's more suprising that no real conflict has broken out yet.

Whats the word that RT translates as 'Russian' that isnt actually 'Russian'?
Also, kind of funny that these two Ukrainian fascists are talking in Russian among themselves.


I believe the word used is "Kasap" it's like calling an american Yankee i believe, or something similar. Most of Ukraine speak Russian, there is no surprise here, its got more strict and direct feeling compared to Ukrainian. But its sad to see some top level politicians talk some shit like that, just show how clueless there are at their job, from they talking its clear they are not smart enough and not kind of people who care of plans and stability.
youtube.com/N0rthernL1ght
Roman666
Profile Joined April 2012
Poland1440 Posts
March 25 2014 06:14 GMT
#7410
On March 25 2014 09:02 Greem wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2014 08:24 Sub40APM wrote:
On March 25 2014 07:29 SilentchiLL wrote:
On March 25 2014 07:19 -Archangel- wrote:
I didn't see anyone comment this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6RxSzSWbcxo


How does that suprise anyone? Their country was invaded by Russia, it's more suprising that no real conflict has broken out yet.

Whats the word that RT translates as 'Russian' that isnt actually 'Russian'?
Also, kind of funny that these two Ukrainian fascists are talking in Russian among themselves.


I believe the word used is "Kasap" it's like calling an american Yankee i believe, or something similar. Most of Ukraine speak Russian, there is no surprise here, its got more strict and direct feeling compared to Ukrainian. But its sad to see some top level politicians talk some shit like that, just show how clueless there are at their job, from they talking its clear they no that smart and not people of plans and stability.

The word is Ukrainian "кацап" probably coming from как цап (like a goat), an adjective for goat beards of Russian Boyars. It is used in Polish language too, as a derogatory term for Russians.
Deleted User 137586
Profile Joined January 2011
7859 Posts
March 25 2014 07:59 GMT
#7411


Shot through the heart twice while trying to `arrest' him? This is bad news. It will force the right sector further from power but it will make it more extremist and violent.
Cry 'havoc' and let slip the dogs of war
sekritzzz
Profile Joined December 2010
1515 Posts
March 25 2014 09:32 GMT
#7412
I love how people are giving excuses for such an insane comment. Not only has she just used a derogatory term for 20% of the ukranian population, she has recommended using nuclear weapons to get rid of them, by the so called leader of a "mass" "revolution" which conveniently has recieved about 5 billions dollars from the US. As Ron Paul said , to summarize, NGOs whose sole purpose is to promote democracy are in fact the destroyers of democracy.

The whole purpose of a democracy is for people not to take arms and fight it out on the street but rather to do it in a more civil way of civilized voting. Rather, this so called democratic revolution has blindsided a compromise and agreement with the former elected president, annulled the constitution, stole power and called for the extermination of 20% of their own population. Then again she is pro-west so lets forget all that.

Regardless, congratulations on giving Putin a legitamite exuse to actually annex the whole of eastern Ukraine because if the current people in power of kiev do consolidate their power, they will most likely begin a process of intimidation and getting rid of ethnic russians in Ukraine with comments like this from their leader. John Kerry spreading democracy one country at a time. Just ask Egyptians how well the US sponsored democracy is going with Sisi at the helm. They have announced they plan to execute 529 morsi supporters. I personally expect either a split in Ukraine or a full out civil war.
likeasu
Profile Joined February 2012
Russian Federation88 Posts
March 25 2014 10:21 GMT
#7413
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-Archangel-
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia7457 Posts
March 25 2014 11:55 GMT
#7414
Well it seems she denied that she said that and called out Russia for faking the real conversation she had with that person.
Nyxisto
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany6287 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-25 12:27:00
March 25 2014 12:26 GMT
#7415
On March 25 2014 20:55 -Archangel- wrote:
Well it seems she denied that she said that and called out Russia for faking the real conversation she had with that person.

Well regarding to German media (http://www.spiegel.de/politik/ausland/timoschenko-telefonat-putin-in-die-stirn-schiessen-a-960554.html) she admitted that the phone call happened but claims that it has partially been altered. She seems to be denying the nuke part.
Schmobutzen
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Germany284 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-25 13:44:11
March 25 2014 13:42 GMT
#7416
In war or in similar situations like these it is common for even the politest statesman to use bad words for their enemies. Roosevelt often referred to the Japanese as Japs and liked to hear kill counts. Hiroshima must have been a special day for him...

More interesting is the fact that the FSB is more outletting with their informations. Of course if it suits them. I hope the NSA could be like that. Imagine what we would know by now. ..
Schmobutzen
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Germany284 Posts
March 25 2014 13:47 GMT
#7417
Ah yes. My bad. Roosevelt was dead as the two bombs were dropped. But I think that doesn't change the principle.
oo_Wonderful_oo
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
The land of freedom23126 Posts
March 25 2014 15:25 GMT
#7418
http://usawatchdog.com/putin-has-nuclear-economic-bomb-jim-sinclair/

Hadn't seen it till now.
Interesting POV.
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RvB
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Netherlands6303 Posts
March 25 2014 15:45 GMT
#7419
Nice little vid about the economic consequences for Russia.

Russia's banks feel sanctions pinch

March 24 - Sanctions on Russia haven't had much impact on President Putin but there are signs they may be hurting Russia's banks. As Ivor Bennett reports St Petersburg-based Bank Rossiya has asked its clients to refrain from making foreign currency payments. ( Transcript )


http://www.reuters.com/video/2014/03/24/russias-banks-feel-sanctions-pinch?videoId=298646124&videoChannel=5
Deleted User 137586
Profile Joined January 2011
7859 Posts
March 25 2014 17:01 GMT
#7420
On March 26 2014 00:25 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
http://usawatchdog.com/putin-has-nuclear-economic-bomb-jim-sinclair/

Hadn't seen it till now.
Interesting POV.


And by interesting you mean it's one of the less known `alternative news sites' set up by the Kremlin to spout the usual Russian line about US depravity and weakness, all the while happily spreading 911 conspiracies and other junk. Even if there's something truthful on that site, it's not worth going through all the nonsense to find it.

An honest question to you, oo_W_oo, how did you even find that site?
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