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Gearuza
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
150 Posts
March 20 2013 16:17 GMT
#1
If this is the wrong place to post this, I apologize in advance.

http://www.reddit.com/r/WhatsInThisThing/comments/1aj9ty/this_thing_has_been_sitting_in_my_house_ever/

So I just happened upon this reddit thread, and as a longtime MtG player, my emotions turned from "Wow this guy is the luckiest dude ever." to "OH GOD GET BABY AWAY FROM HIS COLLEGE FUND".

Basically he bought a house, found a safe, got the safe open, found tons of extremely old and expensive Magic: The Gathering cards in it. This includes multiple sets of black-bordered Power 9, what appear to be test prints, and sealed Unlimited + Legends packs.

The best thing is? The OP hasn't replied yet, so people don't know if he's open the sealed packs, taken the cards out of their sleeves, or simply let the baby play with them. Any one of these things can make the collection lose hundreds or thousands of dollars in value

This has taken the MtG community by storm, here's a cost estimate someone did:

Uh.. Dude. That binder is probably with tens of thousands of dollars.

edit 1: ok. For real, that binder is worth at least 20-25 grand retail. If this isn't staged, you basically found one of the best hidden magic the gathering collections of all time. I am being completely serious. I would have literally fallen over and passed out. Probably peed myself a little.

I want to believe so bad. This is a dream for a lot of people. Please be gentle with those cards, though. Please please please please

edit 2: man. I know it's 3 am. But I really wish I knew how to contact you. Maybe you're on reddit right now. I don't know. I am so fucking excited for you, though. And jealous. I have been playing magic since the game came out 20 years ago. What you have in that binder would rival all but the largest retailers in the US as far as expensive older cards. I watched it a few more times and a conservative it's-3-am-and-i'm-half-asleep estimate would be about $28,000-$32,000 (retail, you could probably get 70-80% for 3/4 of the cards in there). Please PLEASE be gentle with those cards. Not only is that a substantial amount of money, but that stuff just isn't out there much anymore. You found history. A very meaningful binder of treasures. I'm not gonna lie, I thought about making you an offer on it of around $10k, but that would be a shitty thing to do. You deserve to upgrade your house, get a new car, whatever.

I'm rambling like an idiot now because I am this excited. Man. I don't even know what to say. Congrats though. You've got the most expensive personal collection I've ever seen. If you have any questions, as in how to move those, value, etc.: please pm me. I'm happy to help.

edit 3: DON'T OPEN THE PACKS OF CARDS OR THE STARTER DECKS IF THEY'RE COMPLETELY SEALED. The legends packs are between $75-$100 a piece and the unlimited decks .. I .. man. Several hundred a piece.

edit 4: I'm working on a spreadsheet, based on near-mint values of the cards I can make out in the video because I am neurotic and can't sleep and have to know how close my estimate was. Will update

edit 5: holy flying sheep dicks, I am really kind of proud of my initial guess up there, the total of the cards I could make out from binder in the video above, at current retail (starcitygames.com) prices, assuming everything is near-mint, and all the (alpha/OR/beta) cards are Beta, is $32,358 (for the fellow MTG folks, I know that is a LOT of assumptions, but we are ball-parking from a time trial, potato-cam video here after an all-nighter, cut a brother some slack)

here's a spreadsheet: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Ai8tOGnVZ6ogdEtsYVVEZVZOd1h0WEZNUnNTaWl5QWc&usp=sharing

The thing about some of those cards is that the difference between the editions can make a fairly significant impact on the price. The difference between alpha and beta is something that can't really be judged via paused phone-recorded video. It is absolutely necessary to find it out though, whether you're going to part with any of this or not. You don't want to sell yourself short here. I hope the spreadsheet helps! it's nap time!

edit 6: Holy crap, reddit gold (thank you random internet stranger!), bestof'd, AND we broke googledocs! Yay team!

For those saying this collection is worth more than $32k, you're absolutely right. At 5am, I just wanted to get something in a spreadsheet for OP to reference and went with the video above, I realize there are two other videos, but this should give OP the idea that this is an extremely valuable collection. That's not even counting the black cards at the beginning (no idea) and the artwork.

For those saying selling this is won't get much, it totally depends. If you took this collection to a local game store and presented it to them with the intent to sell, one of two things would happen: 1) you'd get lowballed to all hell or 2) you'd get told to sell it elsewhere because they don't have enough money to pay for it. Either way, it would be neat to see the visible duress on the face of whomever looked through the binder. The secondary market for MtG is very much alive and well and, as I mentioned, these cards are a part of history. A near-mint beta black lotus sold on ebay 3 days ago for $4,482.00. Granted, ebay takes 10% and paypal another 4%, but you still get the gist. To the right people, through the right medium, OP stands to make an astronomical amount of money from a safe he believed had nothing in it.

For those who have asked me to price things: First and foremost, please don't get your hopes up to this level though: the odds of you having something that rivals this binder are probably right up there with getting struck by lightning. I will be happy to look at cards for you if you PM me some clear photos (thanks to the one user who did, I'll have a look this afternoon and get back to you!). It was really fun to actually do this her. As an avid collector and player, it makes me feel good to know that we actually have found some more of these rare cards, notwithstanding OP will be able to buy a boat. Every year, the supply for ultra old stuff like this dwindles. As far as "I have a box of cards, what do you think?," it's impossible to tell what something is actually worth without seeing the cards themselves. For those curious, Ark42 has a price list that updates retail value when you refresh the page. You can sort the price list at the top, it starts at [ Alpha - Revised ] and goes in chronological order to the right to the newest sets released. Each set in here has the set symbol next to the name, and every card that is worth more than $1 is listed. For a list of set symbols see this page at Wizards of the Coast. Once you know what you have, have a look on ebay for the higher dollar cards. Or find a local game store via the wizards store locator and get back out there and play!

NOTE TO OP: It may behoove you to look at getting some of these cards graded professionally by Beckett or PSA -- older cards that are in 'good' condition to the untrained eye (ie, not bent, no water damage, nice corners, not a lot of whitening around the edges, etc) that are graded can fetch SIGNIFICANTLY higher prices (see: Black Lotus, Mox [jet/emerald/ruby/sapphire/pearl] and any of the black bordered dual lands there, specifically Volcanic Island]. For comparison, you could go to Wal-mart or Target and grab a booster pack of magic: the gathering cards. The cards that come out of the pack are, 99.99% of the time, in near-mint condition. If any of the cards that I mentioned above or are in the spreadsheet for over $500 are even close to near-mint condition, getting them graded will increase their value.

Jamileon
Profile Joined June 2011
United States63 Posts
March 20 2013 16:20 GMT
#2
A lot of other people in that reddit thread were saying it was worth a lot more then 32k. Some went as high as 100k.
Draconicfire
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada2562 Posts
March 20 2013 16:21 GMT
#3
Oh man, that's like the most epic thing to find in a random safe ever.

It's so random, but at the same time so valuable haha.
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GrandInquisitor *
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
New York City13113 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-20 16:22:54
March 20 2013 16:22 GMT
#4
It's probably a fake.
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Mortal
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
2943 Posts
March 20 2013 16:25 GMT
#5
I don't play MtG so I can't really concieve of the magnitude of finding these, but I can understand the financial implications. Pretty lucky of this dude if he hasn't fucked with the cards.
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Hitch-22
Profile Blog Joined February 2013
Canada753 Posts
March 20 2013 16:25 GMT
#6
On March 21 2013 01:21 Draconicfire wrote:
Oh man, that's like the most epic thing to find in a random safe ever.

It's so random, but at the same time so valuable haha.

I think I'd prefer a hundred million billion trillion dollars!

Anyway, as above said, prob fake.
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Detri
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United Kingdom683 Posts
March 20 2013 16:26 GMT
#7
Kinda makes me wonder what my 15 year old magic cards in the attic are worth.
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Tommie
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
China658 Posts
March 20 2013 16:26 GMT
#8
That's hilarious.
I wonder if the OP finds out.
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Dagobert
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Netherlands1858 Posts
March 20 2013 16:29 GMT
#9
On March 21 2013 01:22 GrandInquisitor wrote:
It's probably a fake.

Quoted for probability.
GulpyBlinkeyes
Profile Joined October 2009
United States1449 Posts
March 20 2013 16:29 GMT
#10
I giggled because the sidebar makes this look like the least impressive story ever:

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maru~
Profile Joined February 2013
2345 Posts
March 20 2013 16:29 GMT
#11
Can't see a convincing reason someone would leave such a collection behind.
Gowa
Profile Joined October 2010
France133 Posts
March 20 2013 16:30 GMT
#12
hey someone found a bunch of cards that's interesting
people are talking about it on reddit?
oh this changes everything I have to spread the word myself
oh man
on reddit
evilfatsh1t
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia8695 Posts
March 20 2013 16:33 GMT
#13
if the cards were that valuable, why would the previous owner just leave them in the first place?
Psychobabas
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
2531 Posts
March 20 2013 16:33 GMT
#14
It's fake.
Cel.erity
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States4890 Posts
March 20 2013 16:36 GMT
#15
This is fake, even the first reply on reddit points it out. I didn't believe it anyway after I saw the binders and playmat, since obviously a PT player who cares enough to organize his sick beta collection isn't going to randomly leave them in his safe when he moves out.
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Hacksaw11
Profile Joined July 2008
Australia359 Posts
March 20 2013 16:37 GMT
#16
altered cards, nothing to see here.
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Chronos.
Profile Joined February 2012
United States805 Posts
March 20 2013 16:37 GMT
#17
Unfortunate that the top comment is about why it's a fake =\

Interesting story anyway.
GettingIt
Profile Joined August 2011
1656 Posts
March 20 2013 16:40 GMT
#18
I found the detective work that showed this as fake more fascinating than the actual thought of finding $30k worth of MtG cards.
Blargh
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2103 Posts
March 20 2013 16:41 GMT
#19
On March 21 2013 01:33 evilfatsh1t wrote:
if the cards were that valuable, why would the previous owner just leave them in the first place?


They wouldn't. The situation reeks of fake. Also, GrandInquisitor's post is pretty much 99% proof that it's fake. Sry2say.
OuchyDathurts
Profile Joined September 2010
United States4588 Posts
March 20 2013 16:41 GMT
#20
Going with fake. But people need to chillax about people "just leaving" shit behind when they "move". You are aware people die right? It's entirely possible for someone to have something like a safe with some crap in it and die. If their family doesn't know they have anything in it or what the combination is unless they're going to hire a locksmith to crack it...which they won't that stuff is staying in the safe.
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Nick!
Profile Joined March 2011
Scotland701 Posts
March 20 2013 16:43 GMT
#21
After the thread with the dude finding the safe and trying to open it blowing up on reddit, i guess this is a solid way to farm some karma lol...
Kishin2
Profile Joined May 2011
United States7534 Posts
March 20 2013 16:43 GMT
#22
Can't bullshit reddit. Newell's law holds.
Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
March 20 2013 16:47 GMT
#23
Let's not mindlessly copy-paste over reddit threads to TL.
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