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FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-03-01 22:55:55
March 01 2018 22:50 GMT
#199881
On March 02 2018 07:12 Plansix wrote:



Lurkers to be burrowed at school grounds to counter the rifle infantry threat

Neosteel Enthusiast
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
March 01 2018 22:50 GMT
#199882
On March 02 2018 07:42 Biff The Understudy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2018 07:26 Plansix wrote:
On March 02 2018 07:19 Biff The Understudy wrote:
On March 02 2018 07:12 Plansix wrote:
https://twitter.com/PeterAlexander/status/969300010683850752

Nice. This is as also a great part of the 90s. Now let’s watch some Michael bay films, with long, fetishized shots of military hardware. Brought to you by the US army.

Clearly, Fortnite is to blame for all those school shootings. Have you seen that outrageous flying party bus and those very tasteless costumes?

PUBG is basically a training ground for mass shooters. You are rewarded for getting the best, most powerful assault rifle and murdering 100 people. Trump is going to have sign an executive order to reinstate Jack Thompson’s license to practice law. And then, the lawsuits return.

I personally like to hide until everyone has killed each other, but then again I’m french and I don’t like to fight. Also my aiming is rubbish.

So i guess I can keep playing.

That is training to go to school in the US, so PUBG is clearly a public service.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32755 Posts
March 01 2018 22:59 GMT
#199883
There is already a video game designed for teachers and emergency personnel designed by the U.S. Army that simulates the roles of a school shooter, a teacher, and the responders. They'll probably distribute a few thousand copies of those and call it a day.

But being serious, cycling back to the moral panic of video games is quite depressing.
I'm afraid of demented knife-wielding escaped lunatic libertarian zombie mutants
a_flayer
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Netherlands2826 Posts
March 01 2018 23:00 GMT
#199884
Could this spell the return of Jack Thompson?
When you came along so righteous with a new national hate, so convincing is the ardor of war and of men, it's harder to breathe than to believe you're a friend. The wars at home, the wars abroad, all soaked in blood and lies and fraud.
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States24342 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-03-01 23:04:43
March 01 2018 23:01 GMT
#199885
On March 02 2018 07:50 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2018 07:42 Biff The Understudy wrote:
On March 02 2018 07:26 Plansix wrote:
On March 02 2018 07:19 Biff The Understudy wrote:
On March 02 2018 07:12 Plansix wrote:
https://twitter.com/PeterAlexander/status/969300010683850752

Nice. This is as also a great part of the 90s. Now let’s watch some Michael bay films, with long, fetishized shots of military hardware. Brought to you by the US army.

Clearly, Fortnite is to blame for all those school shootings. Have you seen that outrageous flying party bus and those very tasteless costumes?

PUBG is basically a training ground for mass shooters. You are rewarded for getting the best, most powerful assault rifle and murdering 100 people. Trump is going to have sign an executive order to reinstate Jack Thompson’s license to practice law. And then, the lawsuits return.

I personally like to hide until everyone has killed each other, but then again I’m french and I don’t like to fight. Also my aiming is rubbish.

So i guess I can keep playing.

That is training to go to school in the US, so PUBG is clearly a public service.


Holy damn that's morbid. Well played.

In other news, I like workers telling leadership to eat it.



Turns out they tried to pull a fast one too, with the Senate not approving the measure after near unanimous support in the house (both state level)
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
March 01 2018 23:10 GMT
#199886
On March 02 2018 08:00 a_flayer wrote:
Could this spell the return of Jack Thompson?


I strongly recommend people read up on the Jack being disbarred.

https://kotaku.com/5054772/jack-thompson-disbarred

This is a good starter with the court order. But you gotta dig into when the court issued an order preventing him from defending himself at the hearing. Preview: He started drafting his pleadings in crayon so the Justices could better understand them.

The whole thing is a wild ride and a good window in the wild time that was the 1990-2000s.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-03-01 23:12:37
March 01 2018 23:10 GMT
#199887
just to get some perspective on this "China only makes up 3% of the US steel imports" from last page, since I was too lazy to google what the others made up for even after being told that Canada is way more. I just stumbled upon this while reading reuters:

The move will not directly hit China that hard, with data showing that Canada supplies 16 percent of U.S. demand versus China’s 2 percent and is by far the largest steel exporter followed by Brazil and South Korea.

so they even claim China is only 2% and Canada is 16%. (unless "demand" = "demand overall, as in including both imported as well as US made Steel", which might also be the reason for the drop from 3 to 2%)
But it's still being sold as punishment for China dumping the US market with cheap steel because it's easy to believe if you don't care to look it up. It's the kind of thing I'd also believe without feeling the need to doublecheck if anyone I have the tiniest bit of trust in said this to me. But it's Trump~
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20255 Posts
March 01 2018 23:13 GMT
#199888
On March 02 2018 08:10 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2018 08:00 a_flayer wrote:
Could this spell the return of Jack Thompson?


I strongly recommend people read up on the Jack being disbarred.

https://kotaku.com/5054772/jack-thompson-disbarred

This is a good starter with the court order. But you gotta dig into when the court issued an order preventing him from defending himself at the hearing. Preview: He started drafting his pleadings in crayon so the Justices could better understand them.

The whole thing is a wild ride and a good window in the wild time that was the 1990-2000s.


I expect him to appear on Fox News in the next few days.
Never Knows Best.
Karis Vas Ryaar
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States4396 Posts
March 02 2018 00:00 GMT
#199889
President Donald Trump on Thursday suggested using the death penalty on drug dealers to address the opioid epidemic, equating providing lethal drugs with murder.

"We have pushers and drugs dealers, they are killing hundreds and hundreds of people," Trump said at a White House summit on opioid abuse. "If you shoot one person, they give you life, they give you the death penalty. These people can kill 2,000, 3,000 people and nothing happens to them."

Trump said countries that impose the death penalty on drug dealers have a better record than the United States in combating substance abuse.

"Some countries have a very, very tough penalty — the ultimate penalty — and by the way, they have much less of a drug problem than we do," he said.



https://www.politico.com/story/2018/03/01/donald-trump-death-penalty-suggestion-opioid-crisis-376176
"I'm not agreeing with a lot of Virus's decisions but they are working" Tasteless. Ipl4 Losers Bracket Virus 2-1 Maru
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15743 Posts
March 02 2018 00:02 GMT
#199890
On March 02 2018 09:00 Karis Vas Ryaar wrote:
Show nested quote +
President Donald Trump on Thursday suggested using the death penalty on drug dealers to address the opioid epidemic, equating providing lethal drugs with murder.

"We have pushers and drugs dealers, they are killing hundreds and hundreds of people," Trump said at a White House summit on opioid abuse. "If you shoot one person, they give you life, they give you the death penalty. These people can kill 2,000, 3,000 people and nothing happens to them."

Trump said countries that impose the death penalty on drug dealers have a better record than the United States in combating substance abuse.

"Some countries have a very, very tough penalty — the ultimate penalty — and by the way, they have much less of a drug problem than we do," he said.



https://www.politico.com/story/2018/03/01/donald-trump-death-penalty-suggestion-opioid-crisis-376176


Our president is learning from Philippines. God damn. Thank you state rights.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-03-02 00:17:08
March 02 2018 00:16 GMT
#199891
So do we get to execute the CEOs of pharmaceutical companies? I’m just checking for a friend.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
Womwomwom
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
5930 Posts
March 02 2018 00:17 GMT
#199892
https://venturebeat.com/2018/03/01/the-esa-white-house-has-not-invited-it-or-any-member-company-to-meet-trump/

“The ESA and our member companies have not received an invitation to meet with President Trump,” ESA media relations boss Dan Hewitt told GamesBeat.

ESA member companies include Capcom, Epic Game, Sony Interactive Entertainment, Nintendo, and Microsoft. The ESA is also the primary point of contact between corporate game makers and Washington D.C. If the White House has not invited any of the companies in that group, then who did it invite?


Which is about what I expect from this administration. 90% of the time they do fuck all and just float trial balloons.
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States24342 Posts
March 02 2018 00:24 GMT
#199893
On March 02 2018 09:16 Plansix wrote:
So do we get to execute the CEOs of pharmaceutical companies? I’m just checking for a friend.


That's thoughtful of you, lmk if they get back to you on that
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15743 Posts
March 02 2018 00:25 GMT
#199894
On March 02 2018 09:17 Womwomwom wrote:
https://venturebeat.com/2018/03/01/the-esa-white-house-has-not-invited-it-or-any-member-company-to-meet-trump/

Show nested quote +
“The ESA and our member companies have not received an invitation to meet with President Trump,” ESA media relations boss Dan Hewitt told GamesBeat.

ESA member companies include Capcom, Epic Game, Sony Interactive Entertainment, Nintendo, and Microsoft. The ESA is also the primary point of contact between corporate game makers and Washington D.C. If the White House has not invited any of the companies in that group, then who did it invite?


Which is about what I expect from this administration. 90% of the time they do fuck all and just float trial balloons.


"Get me candy crush and castle people"
micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24799 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-03-02 00:40:09
March 02 2018 00:39 GMT
#199895
The "National Day of Action" for gun violence has been selected. It is 4/20. They should have run that date past a few people before choosing it...

https://actionnetwork.org/forms/april20actionsagainstgunviolence?source=LilysBB
ModeratorThere are animal crackers for people and there are people crackers for animals.
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States24342 Posts
March 02 2018 00:47 GMT
#199896
On March 02 2018 09:39 micronesia wrote:
The "National Day of Action" for gun violence has been selected. It is 4/20. They should have run that date past a few people before choosing it...

https://actionnetwork.org/forms/april20actionsagainstgunviolence?source=LilysBB


I mean it's got the advantage of having people at peak chill as to prevent violent outbursts. Of course the counter protests are going to be a little weird with the whole Hitler's birthday thing.
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
IyMoon
Profile Joined April 2016
United States1249 Posts
March 02 2018 00:54 GMT
#199897
On March 02 2018 09:39 micronesia wrote:
The "National Day of Action" for gun violence has been selected. It is 4/20. They should have run that date past a few people before choosing it...

https://actionnetwork.org/forms/april20actionsagainstgunviolence?source=LilysBB


Pretty sure because its the anniversary of columbine
Something witty
micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24799 Posts
March 02 2018 01:02 GMT
#199898
Ahhh that makes more sense. What GH is saying might still apply though.

I wonder if the situation will have changed at all in the next month and a half to render the event OBE, but we'll see. Probably nothing will have changed in the next 5 years aside from a few more landmark shootings.
ModeratorThere are animal crackers for people and there are people crackers for animals.
mozoku
Profile Joined September 2012
United States708 Posts
March 02 2018 01:18 GMT
#199899
YouTube Hiring for Some Positions Excluded White and Asian Males, Lawsuit Says

YouTube last year stopped hiring white and Asian males for technical positions because they didn’t help the world’s largest video site achieve its goals for improving diversity, according to a civil lawsuit filed by a former employee.

The lawsuit, filed by Arne Wilberg, a white male who worked at Google for nine years, including four years as a recruiter at YouTube, alleges the division of Alphabet Inc.’s GOOGL -2.94% Google set quotas for hiring minorities. Last spring, YouTube recruiters were allegedly instructed to cancel interviews with applicants who weren’t female, black or Hispanic, and to “purge entirely” the applications of people who didn’t fit those categories, the lawsuit claims.

A Google spokeswoman said the company will vigorously defend itself in the lawsuit. “We have a clear policy to hire candidates based on their merit, not their identity,” she said in a statement. “At the same time, we unapologetically try to find a diverse pool of qualified candidates for open roles, as this helps us hire the best people, improve our culture, and build better products.”

People familiar with YouTube’s and Google’s hiring practices in interviews corroborated some of the lawsuit’s allegations, including the hiring freeze of white and Asian technical employees, and YouTube’s use of quotas.

Mr. Wilberg’s lawsuit, filed in January in California’s San Mateo County Superior Court, alleges that Google discriminated against him for his sex and race, retaliated by firing him when he complained, and in the process violated antidiscrimination laws. Mr. Wilberg declined to comment through his attorney.

The lawsuit highlights the tension facing the technology industry as it tries to boost minority hiring, a stated goal of many large companies, including Google. It also threatens to ignite simmering controversy about Silicon Valley’s politics and whether its predominantly liberal ideology is affecting how companies operate.
Google in particular has found itself in the middle of the gender debate following dueling lawsuits in January, one that alleged the company discriminated against women, the other claiming discrimination against conservative white men. The latter suit was filed by plaintiff James Damore, an engineer who was fired from the company last year for distributing a memo that suggested men were better suited to certain tech jobs than women. Google has said it disagrees with the allegations in those suits.

Mr. Wilberg, 40, alleges he complained to multiple managers at YouTube about its hiring practices over the past two years, and elevated those complaints to Google managers before he was ultimately fired last November.

Employers are allowed to undertake initiatives to promote diversity hiring, employment lawyers say. But under Title VII, the federal antidiscrimination law, employers aren’t allowed to make hiring decisions based on race and gender among other protected classes. That means they can’t employ practices like hiring quotas based on race or only hiring one type of minority candidate, attorneys say. Such practices would also run afoul of California laws.

—Yoree Koh contributed to this article.
Source

Pour some out for James Damore....

As a personal anecdote, I applied to YouTube during that time period as a white male for a technical position that is historically by white and Asian men and was not interviewed. During the same round of applications, I interviewed at Google, Facebook, Amazon, and Netflix and ended up accepting an offer from one of them. Pretty funny in retrospect.
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15743 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-03-02 01:43:33
March 02 2018 01:42 GMT
#199900
On March 02 2018 10:18 mozoku wrote:
Show nested quote +
YouTube Hiring for Some Positions Excluded White and Asian Males, Lawsuit Says

YouTube last year stopped hiring white and Asian males for technical positions because they didn’t help the world’s largest video site achieve its goals for improving diversity, according to a civil lawsuit filed by a former employee.

The lawsuit, filed by Arne Wilberg, a white male who worked at Google for nine years, including four years as a recruiter at YouTube, alleges the division of Alphabet Inc.’s GOOGL -2.94% Google set quotas for hiring minorities. Last spring, YouTube recruiters were allegedly instructed to cancel interviews with applicants who weren’t female, black or Hispanic, and to “purge entirely” the applications of people who didn’t fit those categories, the lawsuit claims.

A Google spokeswoman said the company will vigorously defend itself in the lawsuit. “We have a clear policy to hire candidates based on their merit, not their identity,” she said in a statement. “At the same time, we unapologetically try to find a diverse pool of qualified candidates for open roles, as this helps us hire the best people, improve our culture, and build better products.”

People familiar with YouTube’s and Google’s hiring practices in interviews corroborated some of the lawsuit’s allegations, including the hiring freeze of white and Asian technical employees, and YouTube’s use of quotas.

Mr. Wilberg’s lawsuit, filed in January in California’s San Mateo County Superior Court, alleges that Google discriminated against him for his sex and race, retaliated by firing him when he complained, and in the process violated antidiscrimination laws. Mr. Wilberg declined to comment through his attorney.

The lawsuit highlights the tension facing the technology industry as it tries to boost minority hiring, a stated goal of many large companies, including Google. It also threatens to ignite simmering controversy about Silicon Valley’s politics and whether its predominantly liberal ideology is affecting how companies operate.
Google in particular has found itself in the middle of the gender debate following dueling lawsuits in January, one that alleged the company discriminated against women, the other claiming discrimination against conservative white men. The latter suit was filed by plaintiff James Damore, an engineer who was fired from the company last year for distributing a memo that suggested men were better suited to certain tech jobs than women. Google has said it disagrees with the allegations in those suits.

Mr. Wilberg, 40, alleges he complained to multiple managers at YouTube about its hiring practices over the past two years, and elevated those complaints to Google managers before he was ultimately fired last November.

Employers are allowed to undertake initiatives to promote diversity hiring, employment lawyers say. But under Title VII, the federal antidiscrimination law, employers aren’t allowed to make hiring decisions based on race and gender among other protected classes. That means they can’t employ practices like hiring quotas based on race or only hiring one type of minority candidate, attorneys say. Such practices would also run afoul of California laws.

—Yoree Koh contributed to this article.
Source

Pour some out for James Damore....

As a personal anecdote, I applied to YouTube during that time period as a white male for a technical position that is historically by white and Asian men and was not interviewed. During the same round of applications, I interviewed at Google, Facebook, Amazon, and Netflix and ended up accepting an offer from one of them. Pretty funny in retrospect.


From what my friends say, I hope it was Facebook. God damn it sounds amazing to work there. In contrast, Amazon seems to be far and away the worst of the big names. So few awesome perks compared to Facebook doubling your salary as a bonus and shit like that..Christ.
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