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Doodsmack
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7224 Posts
February 28 2018 19:44 GMT
#199721

White House communications director Hope Hicks told House investigators that her job sometimes requires telling “white lies” for President Donald Trump, according to The New York Times.

CNN later confirmed the Times report.

The Times said Hicks made the statement during private testimony before the House Intelligence Committee.

The reports did not elaborate on what Hicks considers to be “white lies.” However, the Times said that “after extended consultation with her lawyers,” Hicks claimed she hadn’t lied over matters related to the Russia investigation.


Hope Hicks is a 28 year old former model who worked for Ivanka Trump before becoming White House Communications Director. Nothing could go wrong.

www.yahoo.com
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
February 28 2018 20:02 GMT
#199722
Mueller approves Gates’ request to end GPS monitoring, more travel

Special counsel Robert Mueller has signed off on giving additional freedoms to Rick Gates in exchange for the former Donald Trump campaign deputy’s cooperation in the wider Russia investigation.

In a court document filed Wednesday in federal district court, Gates’ attorney, Thomas Green, said Mueller did not oppose his client’s request to remove the electronic GPS monitoring device that Gates was forced to wear following his indictment last October on multiple charges, including money laundering and making false statements.


Noting Gates “is now obliged to coordinate certain activities” with Mueller as part of the plea deal, Green also requested U.S. District Judge Amy Berman Jackson end court-imposed restrictions on Gates’ travel from his home in Richmond to court proceedings and other legal meetings in Washington.

“These obligations require his presence in Washington, D.C., often on short notice, and also require frequent consultation” with Mueller and his Washington-based investigators, Green told the court. “In the past these arrangements have been delayed and made more complicated by the need to obtain permission to travel.”

Gates agreed to a plea deal last Friday with Mueller that stipulates he must cooperate “in any and all matters” that the special counsel’s office decides are “relevant.” In his motion on Wednesday, Green explained that Gates faces “very serious consequences” if he violated that agreement or skipped any court proceedings.

“The advantages that attach to strict compliance with that agreement, and the extraordinary disincentives to violating that agreement, are more than sufficient to guarantee Mr. Gates’ appearance at any scheduled proceeding to include the date of sentencing,” Green wrote, noting that Mueller’s office “does not oppose this motion.”


Source

Seems to me Gates must have given something pretty damn good for Mueller to be acting so favorably to him.
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Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15690 Posts
February 28 2018 20:27 GMT
#199723
On March 01 2018 05:02 ticklishmusic wrote:
Show nested quote +
Mueller approves Gates’ request to end GPS monitoring, more travel

Special counsel Robert Mueller has signed off on giving additional freedoms to Rick Gates in exchange for the former Donald Trump campaign deputy’s cooperation in the wider Russia investigation.

In a court document filed Wednesday in federal district court, Gates’ attorney, Thomas Green, said Mueller did not oppose his client’s request to remove the electronic GPS monitoring device that Gates was forced to wear following his indictment last October on multiple charges, including money laundering and making false statements.


Noting Gates “is now obliged to coordinate certain activities” with Mueller as part of the plea deal, Green also requested U.S. District Judge Amy Berman Jackson end court-imposed restrictions on Gates’ travel from his home in Richmond to court proceedings and other legal meetings in Washington.

“These obligations require his presence in Washington, D.C., often on short notice, and also require frequent consultation” with Mueller and his Washington-based investigators, Green told the court. “In the past these arrangements have been delayed and made more complicated by the need to obtain permission to travel.”

Gates agreed to a plea deal last Friday with Mueller that stipulates he must cooperate “in any and all matters” that the special counsel’s office decides are “relevant.” In his motion on Wednesday, Green explained that Gates faces “very serious consequences” if he violated that agreement or skipped any court proceedings.

“The advantages that attach to strict compliance with that agreement, and the extraordinary disincentives to violating that agreement, are more than sufficient to guarantee Mr. Gates’ appearance at any scheduled proceeding to include the date of sentencing,” Green wrote, noting that Mueller’s office “does not oppose this motion.”


Source

Seems to me Gates must have given something pretty damn good for Mueller to be acting so favorably to him.


Probably related to the recent leap towards Trump the investigation has taken with respect to the beauty pagent and wikileaks.
Excludos
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Norway8082 Posts
February 28 2018 21:30 GMT
#199724
On March 01 2018 00:00 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
Just before the midterms.



It astonishes me how slow this system is sometimes. I'm perfectly aware of why it's slow, but frustrating nonetheless.

Also if it begins on 17 sept, I really really doubt it'll be finished by the midterms
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
February 28 2018 21:33 GMT
#199725
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Karis Vas Ryaar
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States4396 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-02-28 21:42:25
February 28 2018 21:41 GMT
#199726



"I'm not agreeing with a lot of Virus's decisions but they are working" Tasteless. Ipl4 Losers Bracket Virus 2-1 Maru
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
February 28 2018 22:33 GMT
#199727


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a_flayer
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Netherlands2826 Posts
February 28 2018 22:38 GMT
#199728
On March 01 2018 06:41 Karis Vas Ryaar wrote:
https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/968957403910823936


https://twitter.com/ryanstruyk/status/968944315883032577


I think phrasing what Mr Trump said as "discriminating against the mentally ill" is deceitful and indicative of that Twitter user's "liberal agenda" to paint Trump in an even worse light than the one that surrounds him naturally.
When you came along so righteous with a new national hate, so convincing is the ardor of war and of men, it's harder to breathe than to believe you're a friend. The wars at home, the wars abroad, all soaked in blood and lies and fraud.
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands21694 Posts
February 28 2018 22:43 GMT
#199729
On March 01 2018 07:38 a_flayer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2018 06:41 Karis Vas Ryaar wrote:
https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/968957403910823936


https://twitter.com/ryanstruyk/status/968944315883032577


I think phrasing what Mr Trump said as "discriminating against the mentally ill" is deceitful and indicative of that Twitter user's "liberal agenda" to paint Trump in an even worse light than the one that surrounds him naturally.

His 'Liberal Agenda'?
To me it reads more like an opinion on the interaction between the 2nd amendment and mental illness then a politician statement.

Aka he is an idiot who thinks mentally ill people should have no problems getting a gun.

It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
JinDesu
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3990 Posts
February 28 2018 22:44 GMT
#199730
It's going to be interesting to see the response to him asking for people to come down on the "strong side" with regards to handling the gun issue.
Yargh
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
February 28 2018 22:46 GMT
#199731
On March 01 2018 07:38 a_flayer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2018 06:41 Karis Vas Ryaar wrote:
https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/968957403910823936


https://twitter.com/ryanstruyk/status/968944315883032577


I think phrasing what Mr Trump said as "discriminating against the mentally ill" is deceitful and indicative of that Twitter user's "liberal agenda" to paint Trump in an even worse light than the one that surrounds him naturally.

That stats don’t back up the focus on mental illness that seems to come after these shootings. The mentally ill overwhelming non-violent and far more likely to be the victim of violent crime. Most folks working in the industry would love more tools, but say that the people seeking treatment unlikely to ever be the cause of one of these shooting.

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/health/trump-said-mental-illness-leads-to-gun-violence-heres-why-doctors-disagree

I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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Karis Vas Ryaar
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States4396 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-02-28 22:53:02
February 28 2018 22:52 GMT
#199732
On March 01 2018 07:38 a_flayer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2018 06:41 Karis Vas Ryaar wrote:
https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/968957403910823936


https://twitter.com/ryanstruyk/status/968944315883032577


I think phrasing what Mr Trump said as "discriminating against the mentally ill" is deceitful and indicative of that Twitter user's "liberal agenda" to paint Trump in an even worse light than the one that surrounds him naturally.


I was more focusing on the second tweet the first just happened to be mixed in. As far as I am aware of in the US however the discriminating agains the mentally ill argument has traditionally been a more NRA/right wing argument because they view it as infringing on second amendment rights.
"I'm not agreeing with a lot of Virus's decisions but they are working" Tasteless. Ipl4 Losers Bracket Virus 2-1 Maru
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
February 28 2018 23:13 GMT
#199733
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
February 28 2018 23:59 GMT
#199734
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15690 Posts
March 01 2018 00:05 GMT
#199735
On March 01 2018 08:59 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
https://twitter.com/AP/status/968995739828408322


I feel like this is actually really huge. I am sad companies are needing to be the ones leading these efforts.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-03-01 00:19:03
March 01 2018 00:12 GMT
#199736
That is incredible and a sign the pressure is coming from more then just self identifing Democrats and gun control advocates.



Also, this is a completely accurate statement. Obama suggested they clung to their guns and they lost their minds, claiming he was mocking them and their guns. Today we saw a church service with AR-15s, bullet crowns and people crying about losing them.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
zlefin
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
United States7689 Posts
March 01 2018 00:18 GMT
#199737
On March 01 2018 09:12 Plansix wrote:
That is incredible and a sign the pressure is coming from more then just self identifing Democrats and gun control advocates.

how does it prove that?
it seems to me that corporate america could respond to any pressure based on the weight of the pressure; even if it's only from a small group, if it impacts their bottom line.

how does that walmart decision interact with federal and state laws on age discrimination in sales? is age just not a protected category for that?
I know they couldn' tdecide to not sell to blacks; so I guess if they're announcing (and that's an if sinc ethat was just an ap report, rather than walmart saying it directly) that they're no tselling to under 21, that's probably legal as walmart surely has a large legal team. just not familiar with the legalities on that re: age
Great read: http://shorensteincenter.org/news-coverage-2016-general-election/ great book on democracy: http://press.princeton.edu/titles/10671.html zlefin is grumpier due to long term illness. Ignoring some users.
Womwomwom
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
5930 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-03-01 00:20:48
March 01 2018 00:19 GMT
#199738
Walmart's move is definitely them reading the atmosphere. Die-hard supporters aren't going to boycott Walmart, considering its size and reach, and people under the age of 21 aren't big spenders in the first place.

There really isn't any reason for them to not make this move. They get some good PR goodwill and they don't get caught infront of the truck shitting all over companies like FedEx right now.
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15690 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-03-01 00:23:31
March 01 2018 00:19 GMT
#199739
On March 01 2018 09:12 Plansix wrote:
That is incredible and a sign the pressure is coming from more then just self identifing Democrats and gun control advocates.


It helps that Trump truly does not give 2 shits about guns. I think his existing model in his head regarding how exactly guns are purchased and which guns can be purchased was wrong. And now that he realizes what is actually the case, he's like "wtf??"

On March 01 2018 09:19 Womwomwom wrote:
Walmart's move is definitely them reading the atmosphere. Die-hard supporters aren't going to boycott Walmart, considering its size and reach, and people under the age of 21 aren't big spenders in the first place.

There really isn't any reason for them to not make this move. They get some good PR goodwill and they don't get caught infront of the truck shitting all over companies like FedEx right now.


I'd like to see rural America try to boycott Walmart. Cletus is going to need to make sure he's got a full tank of gas in his 1992 F150. It's a long drive to somewhere else.
Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States13955 Posts
March 01 2018 00:50 GMT
#199740
You're still going to be able to buy them off the internet whenever you want and I'm sure cletus is going to know a local gun store .

If anything I would expect people to be worried that this will lower people's pressure on congress to put it into law.
A wise man will say that he knows nothing. We're gona party like its 2752 Hail Dark Brandon
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