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{CC}StealthBlue
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Plansix
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LegalLord
United States13779 Posts
On February 05 2018 12:50 Kyadytim wrote: There's just some things that it's not appropriate to commercialize. I'm pretty sure it would have generated a similar reaction if it was a commercial using a recording of the Dalai Llama or a Pope. Would have been similarly stupid to be offended by it as well. | ||
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hunts
United States2113 Posts
On February 05 2018 13:17 LegalLord wrote: Would have been similarly stupid to be offended by it as well. Are you getting offended at people getting offended? | ||
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LegalLord
United States13779 Posts
On February 05 2018 13:35 hunts wrote: Are you getting offended at people getting offended? No? | ||
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NovaTheFeared
United States7232 Posts
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Dromar
United States2145 Posts
On February 05 2018 13:41 NovaTheFeared wrote: Not seeing much overlap in the Dodge pickup buyer demographic and the people offended by this ad demographic. Expect boilerplate PR standard apology, and a quiet thanks to those who raised the profile of the ad by giving it attention. Yeah this "outrage" is the best thing for the company. | ||
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GreenHorizons
United States24455 Posts
On February 05 2018 13:17 LegalLord wrote: Would have been similarly stupid to be offended by it as well. I'm offended by it because it was a disrespectful and absurd use of his words and Dodge should be ashamed of themselves as should anyone that finds it acceptable. Shit was loud where I was at but it is obviously offensive. Think if MLK was told his speech was going to be used to sell shitty overpriced trucks. It should be abundantly obvious that's not something he would approve of. It's BHM and not a damn person that liked that ad knows a god damn thing about MLK besides the whitewashed sanitized trash they were fed in school. | ||
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LegalLord
United States13779 Posts
On February 05 2018 14:00 GreenHorizons wrote: I'm offended by it because it was a disrespectful and absurd use of his words and Dodge should be ashamed of themselves as should anyone that finds it acceptable. Shit was loud where I was at but it is obviously offensive. Think if MLK was told his speech was going to be used to sell shitty overpriced trucks. It should be abundantly obvious that's not something he would approve of. It's BHM and not a damn person that liked that ad knows a god damn thing about MLK besides the whitewashed sanitized trash they were fed in school. First of all, I want to commend you for giving a straight answer rather than pussyfooting around the issue and saying nothing of value, as others have done. I appreciate that. I’d like to hear a little more about the bolded part though; what “whitewashed sanitized” version of MLK do people know, and what about that characterization falls short? I know you make use of the “white moderates” line a fair bit, but I’m sure there’s more. I can certainly sympathize to some extent with that view but I suspect you might have more than most to say here. | ||
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Plansix
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Kyadytim
United States886 Posts
On February 05 2018 12:55 {CC}StealthBlue wrote: Been posted yet? https://twitter.com/funder/status/960302459674677248 This is the first time I've seen anything about this. One more tally for the count of how many times my palm has impacted my face. | ||
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m4ini
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On February 05 2018 12:50 Kyadytim wrote: There's just some things that it's not appropriate to commercialize. I'm pretty sure it would have generated a similar reaction if it was a commercial using a recording of the Dalai Llama or a Pope. + Show Spoiler + + Show Spoiler + I'm pretty sure it wouldn't have. And using the Dalai Lama arguably is worse, because while MLK is undeniably one of the most important people in americas history, the Dalai Lama still is, for Tibet. An issue btw that China would love to go to war for. Quick google also found Hitler selling Shampoo in turkey. While i agree that some things are not necessarily appropriate to commercialise, it's equally stupid to be offended by it. | ||
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Sermokala
United States14220 Posts
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Aquanim
Australia2849 Posts
On February 05 2018 15:35 Sermokala wrote: What if it was meta PR where it was intentional to offend black people in order to tribalize dodge truck owners and increase brand loyalty. Then being offended by it plays right into the capitalist machine. Then their PR methods are offensive as well? | ||
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ShoCkeyy
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https://www.gsdm.com/ You let me know. | ||
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GreenHorizons
United States24455 Posts
On February 05 2018 15:24 m4ini wrote: + Show Spoiler + + Show Spoiler + I'm pretty sure it wouldn't have. And using the Dalai Lama arguably is worse, because while MLK is undeniably one of the most important people in americas history, the Dalai Lama still is, for Tibet. An issue btw that China would love to go to war for. Quick google also found Hitler selling Shampoo in turkey. While i agree that some things are not necessarily appropriate to commercialise, it's equally stupid to be offended by it. There is absolutely nothing stupid about being offended by offensive advertisements. It's categorically absurd to suggest as much. On February 05 2018 16:55 ShoCkeyy wrote: Here's their ad agency. https://www.gsdm.com/ You let me know. However could they make such an error... BTW Those that think it was fine can kindly stfu about something they know nothing about. | ||
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Plansix
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m4ini
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Those that think it was fine can kindly stfu about something they know nothing about. Stop victimising yourself for bullshit that has no impact whatsoever on your life or your past. You're fucking part of the problem of racism against blacks in the US. Focus on real scandals which certainly do exist, instead of desensitising everyone for your cause because you constantly go apeshit over everything that you personally feel offended by. What do you call the millions of blacks that aren't offended? Are you suggesting that they're not "real blacks", or are you suggesting that every single black guy in the US is offended? It might've not been a great ad, nobody is disputing that. But you constantly run around with foam around your mouth every time you perceive something as unacceptable (not just about racism). It gets old, and it definitely doesn't help your cause. But hey, who am i to tell a conspiracy theorist that his screeching really doesn't do anything good. In other news. Somehow it went past him that the demonstrations are not because people don't like the NHS. The demonstrations are against cuts of funding for the NHS, and against any move towards a US styled "healthcare". The NHS is wildly beloved, they're demonstrating because the government is intentionally trying to ruin it. I don't even understand where the "non-personal" comes from, but then again, it really isn't surprising. | ||
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Gorsameth
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farvacola
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