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On January 17 2018 01:19 Danglars wrote:

Offered in same vein as Grumbel's assertion that conservatives called for Manning's death.

On January 17 2018 01:22 Logo wrote:


I don't follow. The thing you are comparing to actually happened.

https://www.cnn.com/2017/01/04/politics/kfile-trump-wikileaks/index.html

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/afghanistan/7925646/US-congressman-says-Bradley-Manning-should-be-executed.html

On January 17 2018 01:25 Mohdoo wrote:
The funny thing is, UI issues like that exist all over the place. Happens in big companies too. So long as everyone has a list of things to do longer than the amount of time they have, low priority stuff "that has always worked" will always get pushed back. They'll hire a software guy to build them something new now. Bet you multiple people have said that should be done for years.

Goes like this:

Person: I recommend we spend money to solve this potential issue
Boss: Well we are low on funding and have these other 3 critical things. We'll only do two of them, not even including this potential problem

*shit goes wrong*

Boss: I have decided to tackle this issue

On January 17 2018 01:25 Mohdoo wrote:
The funny thing is, UI issues like that exist all over the place. Happens in big companies too. So long as everyone has a list of things to do longer than the amount of time they have, low priority stuff "that has always worked" will always get pushed back. They'll hire a software guy to build them something new now. Bet you multiple people have said that should be done for years.

Goes like this:

Person: I recommend we spend money to solve this potential issue
Boss: Well we are low on funding and have these other 3 critical things. We'll only do two of them, not even including this potential problem

*shit goes wrong*

Boss: I have decided to tackle this issue

On January 17 2018 01:29 Danglars wrote:

This is a joke right? Someone says conservatives react this way and you show Trump and the one congressman I could remember from when it happened? Who happens to be a moderate Republican?

Yeah, you can have your double standard and be prideful of it.

On January 17 2018 01:33 Logo wrote:


There's probably even more to it. A lot of UI issues are best solved by having new people use your software; I doubt the DoD has much room for user experience testing in a wide pool that flags issues like this. Then on top of that changes to a life saving piece of software is going to go through extensive testing raising the cost of any change dramatically. At most big companies you can throw out small changes quickly and in the rare event you mess up you just rollback and apologize for the small inconvenience you caused or you get to do a gradual rollout so issues get flagged when they're only affected a handful of people.

Like it's still not great, but it's not as simple as just "lol guvment"

On January 17 2018 01:35 Logo wrote:


You drew a comparison of something that actually happened in a limited scale to something a few people seem to have entirely fabricated as a response (or at least was only the response by a bunch of randos).

It's not a double standard and I never said Gimble was being totally right; but the fraudulent comparison between the two events is uh well completely bunk.

On January 17 2018 02:03 Danglars wrote:

The difference is you googled to find two people saying it, neither of which is a conservative, versus not googling the other side to declare it to be “a bunch of randos.” That’s about as much evidence needed to show future efforts to expose hypocrisy with you would be wasted. I’m not here to fix flawed critical reasoning. Like when you say the DoD testers last post for a Hawaiian emergency response agency and developed software usIng a carrier standard.

Two people is “happened in a limited scale.” Now I’ve heard it all. I’d chalk up one more in the Trumpmania column, but I don’t know if this started under prior Republican administrations with you.

On January 17 2018 01:19 Danglars wrote:

Offered in same vein as Grumbel 's assertion that conservatives called for Manning's death.

On January 17 2018 01:35 Logo wrote:


You drew a comparison of something that actually happened in a limited scale to something a few people seem to have entirely fabricated as a response (or at least was only the response by a bunch of randos).

It's not a double standard and I never said Gimble was being totally right; but the fraudulent comparison between the two events is uh well completely bunk.

Bradley Manning is a traitor to the United States of America. He and his twisted alter ego, "Chelsea" Manning should be facing a firing squad instead of walking free.
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Two bullets...one for each alias.
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Bradley Manning (no will never call him Chelsea) is a traitor who put lives of service men in danger along with foreign nationals working with us. He should have been shot for treason and thrown in a hole.
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Personally I think Manning deserved the firing squad, but that's just me.
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As retired military, why are we even giving this ball scum attention. He should have been shot, but wasnt. Next.
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I agree. Though my preferred method for people like this would be Keel Hauling. If they survive they are free to go, but the body usually doesn't hold together by the time you get to midships.
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Manning will wish that he stayed in jail when he doesn't wake up in a dumpster in a back alley.
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He leaked military documents while in a war zone.
He should have been shot as soon as it was discovered.
His dead body should be laying in Iraq, and never allowed to touch US soil.
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Manning has no right to say one work. As a convicted traitor he should have taken his last breath a long time ago. He has no rights or privileges.
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Hope someone pops the traitor.
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I despise Pvt. Manning with every fiber of my Sailor's soul. Traitor is correct and they should be put against the wall and shot, like all traitors.
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Manning is a traitor. He is guilty of treason... while in uniform... during a time of war... intentionally mishandling some of our country's highest secrets... giving them to a foreign news outlet... in order to damage our nation... and to aid and abet our enemies... WHILE OBAMA WAS IN OFFICE... the man should have been executed.
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Manning should have been executed in front of a firing squad for treason. Instead he gets a taxpayer funded sex change, a pardon from Obama and book deals, speaking gigs..... becomes a hero to radical liberals everywhere. And a millionaire. Disgusting.
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This COWARD TRAITOR Manning should have been sentenced to a firing squad!
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Private Manning does not deserve any clemency or leniency.
Manning should rot. Actually, he should be shot. But he should not get out.
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Wouldn't it be a shame if Manning ran into an "unfortunate" accident???
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What we need is this freak swinging from a tree.

On January 17 2018 02:11 Grumbels wrote:



What did I do to deserve this?

Anyway, many more than those two high ranking GOP politicians have called for her execution.

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Or let's look at what the friendly people over at Breitbart (lol) think:

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On January 17 2018 02:06 Logo wrote:


You are the one putting forward the claim that people said something?

One of those people is POTUS by the way, I don't see how that doesn't count for something?

As far as I can tell, you put forward a tweet arguing against something, people pointed out how they haven't heard anyone make the arguement your tweet was arguing against, and your response was that it was as factual as something else that you think is not factual.

Then I pointed out how there's some actual basis for the thing you are comparing it to and somehow that means I should be doing research into the thing that you basically admitted wasn't factual? I'm so confused.

On January 17 2018 02:24 Danglars wrote:

So among articles from blogs nobody knows about (now I know another ready to be suckered by the Russians lol) to breitbart to I guess some radio show I’ve never heard of ... and a link to someone I have heard but that doesn’t call for his execution (lol), you find Mike Huckabee. One moderate congressional Republican, Trump, and Huckabee (At least you found one conservative... gold star) This means conservatives say ... because Huckabee. I take it your real gripe with lumping liberals in the same basket is that you want to be the only one to do it.

What did I do to deserve this?

If you want to correct the record, do your research, and not “randos unless proven otherwise.” But I am still interested if googling two people to justify “conservatives” started under Trump for you, or if it goes back to Bush, or other.

On January 17 2018 02:39 Plansix wrote:
Trump isn’t a conservative. He just does whatever the conservative wing of the house tells him to do(AKA, blow up the DACA deal).

And I keep being told that Jeff Flake isn't a conservative either. It might be that no one is a conservative

On January 17 2018 02:45 IyMoon wrote:


I wonder if we get a shutdown to start 2018.

If we do who is getting the blame? How does Trump/R spin it that its the dems fault when the dems already sent a Bipartisan deal that he rejected

On January 17 2018 02:50 Introvert wrote:
There were def people in this thread who said Trump should have tweeted about Hawaii or something. Or maybe it was just the low hanging fruit of Stealthblue.