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LegalLord
United Kingdom13775 Posts
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Trainrunnef
United States599 Posts
On December 15 2017 04:23 LegalLord wrote: Two or three Senate seats and 60 House seats. I expect Republicans to be thoroughly destroyed because they failed really failed to gain anything meaningful despite having all the winning cards. Any grace period Trump may have had is gone and it’s only downhill from here. The only good outcome from Trump's obsession with winning is that he would likely switch teams if the dems took control of both chambers just to feel like he is in control. | ||
ticklishmusic
United States15977 Posts
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Cricketer12
United States13960 Posts
On December 15 2017 03:56 Plansix wrote: Co worker just pointed out that this is the only way Americans learn. We need to touch the stove. The only way to assure good internet is to experience true shit internet. You say that, and yet Trump still has an incredibly strong backing. | ||
Doodsmack
United States7224 Posts
On December 15 2017 04:27 Trainrunnef wrote: The only good outcome from Trump's obsession with winning is that he would likely switch teams if the dems took control of both chambers just to feel like he is in control. An interesting theory, but you'd have to think there would be a lot of conflict as well including oversight investigations. | ||
LegalLord
United Kingdom13775 Posts
On December 15 2017 04:27 Trainrunnef wrote: The only good outcome from Trump's obsession with winning is that he would likely switch teams if the dems took control of both chambers just to feel like he is in control. Which will lead to a Cruz vs Trump 2020 match. It’s foolproof! | ||
Nevuk
United States16280 Posts
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mozoku
United States708 Posts
On December 15 2017 04:01 kollin wrote: The social state has been eroded since the 80s, and that is a big reason for the intergenerational wealth gap between boomers and millennial. Really? What parts of the social state are you referring to? How are you concluding that it's causing the intergenerational wealth gap? Can you tell me more about this so-called wealth gap? I have a feeling that 20-35 year olds have had close to zero median wealth both in the 70s and today, so this assertion interests me greatly. Unless you're making the braindead argument that older people are wealthier and that's somehow a societal problem we need to resolve. | ||
Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On December 15 2017 04:31 Cricketer12 wrote: You say that, and yet Trump still has an incredibly strong backing. By whom? A recent poll of Fox News viewers showed only 53% approved of him. He is deeply unpopular. Edit: the increase in wealth disparity is economic fact. The top 1% of the county controlled like 8% of national wealth in the 1980. Now it's like 20% and climbing. We are not a French Revolution levels, but we are making a run for the crown. | ||
Nevuk
United States16280 Posts
On December 15 2017 04:21 IyMoon wrote: The map is REALLY stacked against the dems. If we are going on both sides having non bat shit crazy people running I give it to the Rs for the senate No sane person gets past a GOP primary these days. That's a big part of their problem. It doesn't matter how good your map is when your only accomplishments are passing something with ~25% approval rating at best (tax bill) and letting the FCC do things with a 85% disapproval (net neutrality). | ||
Nevuk
United States16280 Posts
Also this was ajit pai's final appeal before the vote. He has a pizzagate conspiracist dancing a 5 year old meme with him as proof net neutrality is bad. Every republican who voted to confirm him gets to defend this shit for the next year. Oh, and the vote for Betsy Devos. | ||
Nyxisto
Germany6287 Posts
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Gorsameth
Netherlands21378 Posts
On December 15 2017 05:01 Nyxisto wrote: Russian trolls, pedophiles, conspiracy theorists and administrators repealing pro-consumer legislation. Seriously please explain to me again why people vote for the Republican party. It's stuff straight out of a comic book at this point, I don't get it Indoctrination. | ||
NewSunshine
United States5938 Posts
On December 15 2017 05:01 Nyxisto wrote: Russian trolls, pedophiles, conspiracy theorists and administrators repealing pro-consumer legislation. Seriously please explain to me again why people vote for the Republican party. It's stuff straight out of a comic book at this point, I don't get it Convincing people that true freedom is making the conscious decision to fuck yourself over. | ||
LegalLord
United Kingdom13775 Posts
On December 15 2017 05:01 Nyxisto wrote: Russian trolls, pedophiles, conspiracy theorists and administrators repealing pro-consumer legislation. Seriously please explain to me again why people vote for the Republican party. It's stuff straight out of a comic book at this point, I don't get it Because the other party’s candidate mishandled classified documents via email. | ||
Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On December 15 2017 05:11 LegalLord wrote: Because the other party’s candidate mishandled classified documents via email. Something that the current administration currently doing. | ||
NewSunshine
United States5938 Posts
On December 15 2017 05:11 LegalLord wrote: Because the other party’s candidate mishandled classified documents via email. Clearly that outweighs everything we're seeing this administration doing, which by the way, also includes mishandling of e-mails. Or did you miss that? | ||
Sermokala
United States13754 Posts
On December 15 2017 05:15 NewSunshine wrote: Clearly that outweighs everything we're seeing this administration doing, which by the way, also includes mishandling of e-mails. Or did you miss that? Its not a zero sum argument. When one group loses credability it doens't raise the credability of another. expecialy when group a is terrible at solving those credability issues and two isn't even trying to argue the issue while the first is. | ||
NewSunshine
United States5938 Posts
On December 15 2017 05:22 Sermokala wrote: Its not a zero sum argument. When one group loses credability it doens't raise the credability of another. expecialy when group a is terrible at solving those credability issues and two isn't even trying to argue the issue while the first is. No, it doesn't make the other group more credible, but when you learn that the first group is a metric shitload less credible, but continue talking about the other group, like it's still the foremost thing we need to be concerned with, it fucking stinks. "But Hillary's emails" has long been put to bed, except when LegalLord feels he has to balance the conversation with beaten-dead right-wing propaganda. It's not a legitimate deflection. | ||
Danglars
United States12133 Posts
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