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Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
November 09 2017 20:45 GMT
#183861
Sexual misconduct keeps coming. Now Louis ck, whom I personally always felt somewhat uneasy about for no reason.
Five women have stepped forward and accused the 50-year-old of sexual misconduct, with several alleging that his modus operandi seemed to be getting naked and masturbating without consent
Comedians Dana Min Goodman and Julia Wolov told the paper that C.K. asked to take his penis out while they were all hanging out in a hotel room in 2002.

The comedy duo thought it was a joke until he actually did it.

“He proceeded to take all of his clothes off, and get completely naked, and started masturbating,” Goodman said. “We were paralyzed.”

“I think the line gets crossed when you take all your clothes off and start masturbating,” Wolov concurred. “Because of this moment, as gross as it is, we feel compelled to speak.”

A third comedian, Abby Schachner, has alleged that C.K. called her on the phone and began masturbating, all the while speaking about “unprofessional and inappropriate” topics.

“I definitely wasn’t encouraging it,” she said. “You want to believe it’s not happening.”

“I felt very ashamed.”

A fourth woman, Rebecca Corry, said the two were working on a television pilot together when the comedian did something similar, asking if he could masturbate in her presence.

“He asked if we could go to my dressing room so he could masturbate in front of me,” she said, noting that she reminded him of his wife and child. “His face got red and he told me he had issues.”

Actors Courteney Cox and David Arquette were executive producers on the unnamed pilot and both confirm that the incident occurred.

“What happened to Rebecca on that set was awful,” Cox said.

A fifth woman, who remains anonymous, also spoke to the newspaper, alleging that he repeatedly asked her if he could masturbate in front of her. She eventually relented.

“I think the big piece of why I said yes was because of the culture,” she said. “He abused his power.”

Rumors that C.K. participated in this brand of sexual misconduct have been floating around comedy circles for years, with many publications — most notably now-defunct Gawker — commenting on the rumors. This is the first time, however, that named sources have come forward.

Comedian Tig Notaro considered herself a good friend of C.K. When she found out about these allegations, however, she recoiled, accusing him of producing one of her comedy specials just so he could “look like a good guy, supporting a woman.”

“Sadly, I’ve come to learn that Louis C.K.’s victims are not only real, but many are actual friends of mine within the comedy community,” she wrote.

The New York Times has reported that the comedian has apologized in private to Schachner, sending a message on Facebook.

“Last time I talked to you ended in a sordid fashion,” he is said to have written in the message. “That was a bad time in my life and I’m sorry.”

“I remember thinking what a repulsive person I was being by responding the way that I did.”

Earlier today, the New York premiere of C.K.’s new movie was canceled and the comedian withdrew from an appearance on The Late Show With Stephen Colbert.

As of this writing, neither C.K. or his agent, Lewis Kay, have replied to these specific accusations.


Mediaite summary, full story at

www.nytimes.com
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15725 Posts
November 09 2017 20:45 GMT
#183862
So if Roy Moore gets canned, that means the dude he beat in the primary gets his spot?
Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
November 09 2017 20:47 GMT
#183863
On November 10 2017 05:45 Mohdoo wrote:
So if Roy Moore gets canned, that means the dude he beat in the primary gets his spot?

I mean, won't Roy Moore have to voluntarily step down? Not sure the party can replace him. This is a guy who was removed twice from the bench, I doubt that he can be shamed into quitting his run
ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
November 09 2017 20:48 GMT
#183864
On November 10 2017 05:45 Nevuk wrote:
Sexual misconduct keeps coming. Now Louis ck, whom I personally always felt somewhat uneasy about for no reason.
Show nested quote +
Five women have stepped forward and accused the 50-year-old of sexual misconduct, with several alleging that his modus operandi seemed to be getting naked and masturbating without consent
Comedians Dana Min Goodman and Julia Wolov told the paper that C.K. asked to take his penis out while they were all hanging out in a hotel room in 2002.

The comedy duo thought it was a joke until he actually did it.

“He proceeded to take all of his clothes off, and get completely naked, and started masturbating,” Goodman said. “We were paralyzed.”

“I think the line gets crossed when you take all your clothes off and start masturbating,” Wolov concurred. “Because of this moment, as gross as it is, we feel compelled to speak.”

A third comedian, Abby Schachner, has alleged that C.K. called her on the phone and began masturbating, all the while speaking about “unprofessional and inappropriate” topics.

“I definitely wasn’t encouraging it,” she said. “You want to believe it’s not happening.”

“I felt very ashamed.”

A fourth woman, Rebecca Corry, said the two were working on a television pilot together when the comedian did something similar, asking if he could masturbate in her presence.

“He asked if we could go to my dressing room so he could masturbate in front of me,” she said, noting that she reminded him of his wife and child. “His face got red and he told me he had issues.”

Actors Courteney Cox and David Arquette were executive producers on the unnamed pilot and both confirm that the incident occurred.

“What happened to Rebecca on that set was awful,” Cox said.

A fifth woman, who remains anonymous, also spoke to the newspaper, alleging that he repeatedly asked her if he could masturbate in front of her. She eventually relented.

“I think the big piece of why I said yes was because of the culture,” she said. “He abused his power.”

Rumors that C.K. participated in this brand of sexual misconduct have been floating around comedy circles for years, with many publications — most notably now-defunct Gawker — commenting on the rumors. This is the first time, however, that named sources have come forward.

Comedian Tig Notaro considered herself a good friend of C.K. When she found out about these allegations, however, she recoiled, accusing him of producing one of her comedy specials just so he could “look like a good guy, supporting a woman.”

“Sadly, I’ve come to learn that Louis C.K.’s victims are not only real, but many are actual friends of mine within the comedy community,” she wrote.

The New York Times has reported that the comedian has apologized in private to Schachner, sending a message on Facebook.

“Last time I talked to you ended in a sordid fashion,” he is said to have written in the message. “That was a bad time in my life and I’m sorry.”

“I remember thinking what a repulsive person I was being by responding the way that I did.”

Earlier today, the New York premiere of C.K.’s new movie was canceled and the comedian withdrew from an appearance on The Late Show With Stephen Colbert.

As of this writing, neither C.K. or his agent, Lewis Kay, have replied to these specific accusations.


Mediaite summary, full story at

www.nytimes.com


Uhhhh, If you listen to Louis CK comedy routine, he literally talks about how he does this to get people's reactions. It's what I think really common knowledge for all his fans.
Life?
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-11-09 20:49:27
November 09 2017 20:48 GMT
#183865
According to this fella (WaPo reporter), Moore's on the ballot and can't be taken off.

(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States43263 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-11-09 20:56:00
November 09 2017 20:50 GMT
#183866
On November 10 2017 05:48 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2017 05:45 Nevuk wrote:
Sexual misconduct keeps coming. Now Louis ck, whom I personally always felt somewhat uneasy about for no reason.
Five women have stepped forward and accused the 50-year-old of sexual misconduct, with several alleging that his modus operandi seemed to be getting naked and masturbating without consent
Comedians Dana Min Goodman and Julia Wolov told the paper that C.K. asked to take his penis out while they were all hanging out in a hotel room in 2002.

The comedy duo thought it was a joke until he actually did it.

“He proceeded to take all of his clothes off, and get completely naked, and started masturbating,” Goodman said. “We were paralyzed.”

“I think the line gets crossed when you take all your clothes off and start masturbating,” Wolov concurred. “Because of this moment, as gross as it is, we feel compelled to speak.”

A third comedian, Abby Schachner, has alleged that C.K. called her on the phone and began masturbating, all the while speaking about “unprofessional and inappropriate” topics.

“I definitely wasn’t encouraging it,” she said. “You want to believe it’s not happening.”

“I felt very ashamed.”

A fourth woman, Rebecca Corry, said the two were working on a television pilot together when the comedian did something similar, asking if he could masturbate in her presence.

“He asked if we could go to my dressing room so he could masturbate in front of me,” she said, noting that she reminded him of his wife and child. “His face got red and he told me he had issues.”

Actors Courteney Cox and David Arquette were executive producers on the unnamed pilot and both confirm that the incident occurred.

“What happened to Rebecca on that set was awful,” Cox said.

A fifth woman, who remains anonymous, also spoke to the newspaper, alleging that he repeatedly asked her if he could masturbate in front of her. She eventually relented.

“I think the big piece of why I said yes was because of the culture,” she said. “He abused his power.”

Rumors that C.K. participated in this brand of sexual misconduct have been floating around comedy circles for years, with many publications — most notably now-defunct Gawker — commenting on the rumors. This is the first time, however, that named sources have come forward.

Comedian Tig Notaro considered herself a good friend of C.K. When she found out about these allegations, however, she recoiled, accusing him of producing one of her comedy specials just so he could “look like a good guy, supporting a woman.”

“Sadly, I’ve come to learn that Louis C.K.’s victims are not only real, but many are actual friends of mine within the comedy community,” she wrote.

The New York Times has reported that the comedian has apologized in private to Schachner, sending a message on Facebook.

“Last time I talked to you ended in a sordid fashion,” he is said to have written in the message. “That was a bad time in my life and I’m sorry.”

“I remember thinking what a repulsive person I was being by responding the way that I did.”

Earlier today, the New York premiere of C.K.’s new movie was canceled and the comedian withdrew from an appearance on The Late Show With Stephen Colbert.

As of this writing, neither C.K. or his agent, Lewis Kay, have replied to these specific accusations.


Mediaite summary, full story at

www.nytimes.com


Uhhhh, If you listen to Louis CK comedy routine, he literally talks about how he does this to get people's reactions. It's what I think really common knowledge for all his fans.

Wasn't common knowledge to me and is totally inexcusable. This sucks, I liked him.

As a rule, if at any point in doing your job you get naked and start masturbating, you're doing your job wrong.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
Danglars
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States12133 Posts
November 09 2017 20:51 GMT
#183867
On November 10 2017 04:56 IgnE wrote:
honestly a lot of you people make this "xdaunt vs the world" bit a lot worse by

1) misreading xdaunts posts
2) talking about shit you don't understand very well as if you did understand it
3) consequently failing to pick a legitimate point of contention and sticking to it
4) by the time you figure out what you should have been didagreeing with xdaunt about youve spent 10 pages building outrage over something stupid, like whether xdaunt sufficiently cares about whether dc residents get the right to vote, something btw that dc residents dont seem to care sufficiently about as evidenced by their failure to mobilize a mere 700k people on the issue
5) ignore this whole embarrassing fiasco and call xdaunt names

Accurate description.

Some of it seems to be posters predisposed to calling xDaunt names in search of reasons to do so.

He won’t help you along to having a precise and germane argument on the topic. He might meet you halfway to a sensible take, but less likely if your entire goal is an accusation of hypocrisy.

We could actually save a lot of time if posts were summarized in (4) “I don’t think you care to the point that I would demand you care to avoid my attack on your internet morality.”
Great armies come from happy zealots, and happy zealots come from California!
TL+ Member
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
November 09 2017 20:52 GMT
#183868
On November 10 2017 05:48 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2017 05:45 Nevuk wrote:
Sexual misconduct keeps coming. Now Louis ck, whom I personally always felt somewhat uneasy about for no reason.
Five women have stepped forward and accused the 50-year-old of sexual misconduct, with several alleging that his modus operandi seemed to be getting naked and masturbating without consent
Comedians Dana Min Goodman and Julia Wolov told the paper that C.K. asked to take his penis out while they were all hanging out in a hotel room in 2002.

The comedy duo thought it was a joke until he actually did it.

“He proceeded to take all of his clothes off, and get completely naked, and started masturbating,” Goodman said. “We were paralyzed.”

“I think the line gets crossed when you take all your clothes off and start masturbating,” Wolov concurred. “Because of this moment, as gross as it is, we feel compelled to speak.”

A third comedian, Abby Schachner, has alleged that C.K. called her on the phone and began masturbating, all the while speaking about “unprofessional and inappropriate” topics.

“I definitely wasn’t encouraging it,” she said. “You want to believe it’s not happening.”

“I felt very ashamed.”

A fourth woman, Rebecca Corry, said the two were working on a television pilot together when the comedian did something similar, asking if he could masturbate in her presence.

“He asked if we could go to my dressing room so he could masturbate in front of me,” she said, noting that she reminded him of his wife and child. “His face got red and he told me he had issues.”

Actors Courteney Cox and David Arquette were executive producers on the unnamed pilot and both confirm that the incident occurred.

“What happened to Rebecca on that set was awful,” Cox said.

A fifth woman, who remains anonymous, also spoke to the newspaper, alleging that he repeatedly asked her if he could masturbate in front of her. She eventually relented.

“I think the big piece of why I said yes was because of the culture,” she said. “He abused his power.”

Rumors that C.K. participated in this brand of sexual misconduct have been floating around comedy circles for years, with many publications — most notably now-defunct Gawker — commenting on the rumors. This is the first time, however, that named sources have come forward.

Comedian Tig Notaro considered herself a good friend of C.K. When she found out about these allegations, however, she recoiled, accusing him of producing one of her comedy specials just so he could “look like a good guy, supporting a woman.”

“Sadly, I’ve come to learn that Louis C.K.’s victims are not only real, but many are actual friends of mine within the comedy community,” she wrote.

The New York Times has reported that the comedian has apologized in private to Schachner, sending a message on Facebook.

“Last time I talked to you ended in a sordid fashion,” he is said to have written in the message. “That was a bad time in my life and I’m sorry.”

“I remember thinking what a repulsive person I was being by responding the way that I did.”

Earlier today, the New York premiere of C.K.’s new movie was canceled and the comedian withdrew from an appearance on The Late Show With Stephen Colbert.

As of this writing, neither C.K. or his agent, Lewis Kay, have replied to these specific accusations.


Mediaite summary, full story at

www.nytimes.com


Uhhhh, If you listen to Louis CK comedy routine, he literally talks about how he does this to get people's reactions. It's what I think really common knowledge for all his fans.

I am a fan and always assumed he was not serious since it is still a crime in all 50 states. It is illegal to masturbate at people without their consent.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
kollin
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United Kingdom8380 Posts
November 09 2017 20:52 GMT
#183869
On November 10 2017 05:48 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2017 05:45 Nevuk wrote:
Sexual misconduct keeps coming. Now Louis ck, whom I personally always felt somewhat uneasy about for no reason.
Five women have stepped forward and accused the 50-year-old of sexual misconduct, with several alleging that his modus operandi seemed to be getting naked and masturbating without consent
Comedians Dana Min Goodman and Julia Wolov told the paper that C.K. asked to take his penis out while they were all hanging out in a hotel room in 2002.

The comedy duo thought it was a joke until he actually did it.

“He proceeded to take all of his clothes off, and get completely naked, and started masturbating,” Goodman said. “We were paralyzed.”

“I think the line gets crossed when you take all your clothes off and start masturbating,” Wolov concurred. “Because of this moment, as gross as it is, we feel compelled to speak.”

A third comedian, Abby Schachner, has alleged that C.K. called her on the phone and began masturbating, all the while speaking about “unprofessional and inappropriate” topics.

“I definitely wasn’t encouraging it,” she said. “You want to believe it’s not happening.”

“I felt very ashamed.”

A fourth woman, Rebecca Corry, said the two were working on a television pilot together when the comedian did something similar, asking if he could masturbate in her presence.

“He asked if we could go to my dressing room so he could masturbate in front of me,” she said, noting that she reminded him of his wife and child. “His face got red and he told me he had issues.”

Actors Courteney Cox and David Arquette were executive producers on the unnamed pilot and both confirm that the incident occurred.

“What happened to Rebecca on that set was awful,” Cox said.

A fifth woman, who remains anonymous, also spoke to the newspaper, alleging that he repeatedly asked her if he could masturbate in front of her. She eventually relented.

“I think the big piece of why I said yes was because of the culture,” she said. “He abused his power.”

Rumors that C.K. participated in this brand of sexual misconduct have been floating around comedy circles for years, with many publications — most notably now-defunct Gawker — commenting on the rumors. This is the first time, however, that named sources have come forward.

Comedian Tig Notaro considered herself a good friend of C.K. When she found out about these allegations, however, she recoiled, accusing him of producing one of her comedy specials just so he could “look like a good guy, supporting a woman.”

“Sadly, I’ve come to learn that Louis C.K.’s victims are not only real, but many are actual friends of mine within the comedy community,” she wrote.

The New York Times has reported that the comedian has apologized in private to Schachner, sending a message on Facebook.

“Last time I talked to you ended in a sordid fashion,” he is said to have written in the message. “That was a bad time in my life and I’m sorry.”

“I remember thinking what a repulsive person I was being by responding the way that I did.”

Earlier today, the New York premiere of C.K.’s new movie was canceled and the comedian withdrew from an appearance on The Late Show With Stephen Colbert.

As of this writing, neither C.K. or his agent, Lewis Kay, have replied to these specific accusations.


Mediaite summary, full story at

www.nytimes.com


Uhhhh, If you listen to Louis CK comedy routine, he literally talks about how he does this to get people's reactions. It's what I think really common knowledge for all his fans.

Is that OK then?
Velr
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Switzerland10811 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-11-09 20:57:40
November 09 2017 20:55 GMT
#183870
So they come out with it now because its all the rage atm?

Seriously, this whole #metoo thing is retarded, not because the underlying issue is, true asshole like weinstein should be attacked... But the dumb shit you see there... Neo puritanism at its finest.
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States23488 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-11-09 20:57:05
November 09 2017 20:55 GMT
#183871
On November 10 2017 05:52 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2017 05:48 ShoCkeyy wrote:
On November 10 2017 05:45 Nevuk wrote:
Sexual misconduct keeps coming. Now Louis ck, whom I personally always felt somewhat uneasy about for no reason.
Five women have stepped forward and accused the 50-year-old of sexual misconduct, with several alleging that his modus operandi seemed to be getting naked and masturbating without consent
Comedians Dana Min Goodman and Julia Wolov told the paper that C.K. asked to take his penis out while they were all hanging out in a hotel room in 2002.

The comedy duo thought it was a joke until he actually did it.

“He proceeded to take all of his clothes off, and get completely naked, and started masturbating,” Goodman said. “We were paralyzed.”

“I think the line gets crossed when you take all your clothes off and start masturbating,” Wolov concurred. “Because of this moment, as gross as it is, we feel compelled to speak.”

A third comedian, Abby Schachner, has alleged that C.K. called her on the phone and began masturbating, all the while speaking about “unprofessional and inappropriate” topics.

“I definitely wasn’t encouraging it,” she said. “You want to believe it’s not happening.”

“I felt very ashamed.”

A fourth woman, Rebecca Corry, said the two were working on a television pilot together when the comedian did something similar, asking if he could masturbate in her presence.

“He asked if we could go to my dressing room so he could masturbate in front of me,” she said, noting that she reminded him of his wife and child. “His face got red and he told me he had issues.”

Actors Courteney Cox and David Arquette were executive producers on the unnamed pilot and both confirm that the incident occurred.

“What happened to Rebecca on that set was awful,” Cox said.

A fifth woman, who remains anonymous, also spoke to the newspaper, alleging that he repeatedly asked her if he could masturbate in front of her. She eventually relented.

“I think the big piece of why I said yes was because of the culture,” she said. “He abused his power.”

Rumors that C.K. participated in this brand of sexual misconduct have been floating around comedy circles for years, with many publications — most notably now-defunct Gawker — commenting on the rumors. This is the first time, however, that named sources have come forward.

Comedian Tig Notaro considered herself a good friend of C.K. When she found out about these allegations, however, she recoiled, accusing him of producing one of her comedy specials just so he could “look like a good guy, supporting a woman.”

“Sadly, I’ve come to learn that Louis C.K.’s victims are not only real, but many are actual friends of mine within the comedy community,” she wrote.

The New York Times has reported that the comedian has apologized in private to Schachner, sending a message on Facebook.

“Last time I talked to you ended in a sordid fashion,” he is said to have written in the message. “That was a bad time in my life and I’m sorry.”

“I remember thinking what a repulsive person I was being by responding the way that I did.”

Earlier today, the New York premiere of C.K.’s new movie was canceled and the comedian withdrew from an appearance on The Late Show With Stephen Colbert.

As of this writing, neither C.K. or his agent, Lewis Kay, have replied to these specific accusations.


Mediaite summary, full story at

www.nytimes.com


Uhhhh, If you listen to Louis CK comedy routine, he literally talks about how he does this to get people's reactions. It's what I think really common knowledge for all his fans.

I am a fan and always assumed he was not serious since it is still a crime in all 50 states. It is illegal to masturbate at people without their consent.


Sounds like he got consent (power dynamic not withstanding) except for the phone call one?

On November 10 2017 05:51 Danglars wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2017 04:56 IgnE wrote:
honestly a lot of you people make this "xdaunt vs the world" bit a lot worse by

1) misreading xdaunts posts
2) talking about shit you don't understand very well as if you did understand it
3) consequently failing to pick a legitimate point of contention and sticking to it
4) by the time you figure out what you should have been didagreeing with xdaunt about youve spent 10 pages building outrage over something stupid, like whether xdaunt sufficiently cares about whether dc residents get the right to vote, something btw that dc residents dont seem to care sufficiently about as evidenced by their failure to mobilize a mere 700k people on the issue
5) ignore this whole embarrassing fiasco and call xdaunt names

Accurate description.

Some of it seems to be posters predisposed to calling xDaunt names in search of reasons to do so.

He won’t help you along to having a precise and germane argument on the topic. He might meet you halfway to a sensible take, but less likely if your entire goal is an accusation of hypocrisy.

We could actually save a lot of time if posts were summarized in (4) “I don’t think you care to the point that I would demand you care to avoid my attack on your internet morality.”


Kwark homed in on the part that mattered and unless he answers that he's got no leg to stand on.
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15725 Posts
November 09 2017 20:56 GMT
#183872
On November 10 2017 05:45 Nevuk wrote:
Sexual misconduct keeps coming. Now Louis ck, whom I personally always felt somewhat uneasy about for no reason.
Show nested quote +
Five women have stepped forward and accused the 50-year-old of sexual misconduct, with several alleging that his modus operandi seemed to be getting naked and masturbating without consent
Comedians Dana Min Goodman and Julia Wolov told the paper that C.K. asked to take his penis out while they were all hanging out in a hotel room in 2002.

The comedy duo thought it was a joke until he actually did it.

“He proceeded to take all of his clothes off, and get completely naked, and started masturbating,” Goodman said. “We were paralyzed.”

“I think the line gets crossed when you take all your clothes off and start masturbating,” Wolov concurred. “Because of this moment, as gross as it is, we feel compelled to speak.”

A third comedian, Abby Schachner, has alleged that C.K. called her on the phone and began masturbating, all the while speaking about “unprofessional and inappropriate” topics.

“I definitely wasn’t encouraging it,” she said. “You want to believe it’s not happening.”

“I felt very ashamed.”

A fourth woman, Rebecca Corry, said the two were working on a television pilot together when the comedian did something similar, asking if he could masturbate in her presence.

“He asked if we could go to my dressing room so he could masturbate in front of me,” she said, noting that she reminded him of his wife and child. “His face got red and he told me he had issues.”

Actors Courteney Cox and David Arquette were executive producers on the unnamed pilot and both confirm that the incident occurred.

“What happened to Rebecca on that set was awful,” Cox said.

A fifth woman, who remains anonymous, also spoke to the newspaper, alleging that he repeatedly asked her if he could masturbate in front of her. She eventually relented.

“I think the big piece of why I said yes was because of the culture,” she said. “He abused his power.”

Rumors that C.K. participated in this brand of sexual misconduct have been floating around comedy circles for years, with many publications — most notably now-defunct Gawker — commenting on the rumors. This is the first time, however, that named sources have come forward.

Comedian Tig Notaro considered herself a good friend of C.K. When she found out about these allegations, however, she recoiled, accusing him of producing one of her comedy specials just so he could “look like a good guy, supporting a woman.”

“Sadly, I’ve come to learn that Louis C.K.’s victims are not only real, but many are actual friends of mine within the comedy community,” she wrote.

The New York Times has reported that the comedian has apologized in private to Schachner, sending a message on Facebook.

“Last time I talked to you ended in a sordid fashion,” he is said to have written in the message. “That was a bad time in my life and I’m sorry.”

“I remember thinking what a repulsive person I was being by responding the way that I did.”

Earlier today, the New York premiere of C.K.’s new movie was canceled and the comedian withdrew from an appearance on The Late Show With Stephen Colbert.

As of this writing, neither C.K. or his agent, Lewis Kay, have replied to these specific accusations.


Mediaite summary, full story at

www.nytimes.com


His humor style is just a wee bit too 1-dimensional, so no loss there for me. "lol I said something really dark LMAO did you hear how dark that was and I said I was ugly too ROFL"
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
November 09 2017 20:57 GMT
#183873
On November 10 2017 05:50 KwarK wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2017 05:48 ShoCkeyy wrote:
On November 10 2017 05:45 Nevuk wrote:
Sexual misconduct keeps coming. Now Louis ck, whom I personally always felt somewhat uneasy about for no reason.
Five women have stepped forward and accused the 50-year-old of sexual misconduct, with several alleging that his modus operandi seemed to be getting naked and masturbating without consent
Comedians Dana Min Goodman and Julia Wolov told the paper that C.K. asked to take his penis out while they were all hanging out in a hotel room in 2002.

The comedy duo thought it was a joke until he actually did it.

“He proceeded to take all of his clothes off, and get completely naked, and started masturbating,” Goodman said. “We were paralyzed.”

“I think the line gets crossed when you take all your clothes off and start masturbating,” Wolov concurred. “Because of this moment, as gross as it is, we feel compelled to speak.”

A third comedian, Abby Schachner, has alleged that C.K. called her on the phone and began masturbating, all the while speaking about “unprofessional and inappropriate” topics.

“I definitely wasn’t encouraging it,” she said. “You want to believe it’s not happening.”

“I felt very ashamed.”

A fourth woman, Rebecca Corry, said the two were working on a television pilot together when the comedian did something similar, asking if he could masturbate in her presence.

“He asked if we could go to my dressing room so he could masturbate in front of me,” she said, noting that she reminded him of his wife and child. “His face got red and he told me he had issues.”

Actors Courteney Cox and David Arquette were executive producers on the unnamed pilot and both confirm that the incident occurred.

“What happened to Rebecca on that set was awful,” Cox said.

A fifth woman, who remains anonymous, also spoke to the newspaper, alleging that he repeatedly asked her if he could masturbate in front of her. She eventually relented.

“I think the big piece of why I said yes was because of the culture,” she said. “He abused his power.”

Rumors that C.K. participated in this brand of sexual misconduct have been floating around comedy circles for years, with many publications — most notably now-defunct Gawker — commenting on the rumors. This is the first time, however, that named sources have come forward.

Comedian Tig Notaro considered herself a good friend of C.K. When she found out about these allegations, however, she recoiled, accusing him of producing one of her comedy specials just so he could “look like a good guy, supporting a woman.”

“Sadly, I’ve come to learn that Louis C.K.’s victims are not only real, but many are actual friends of mine within the comedy community,” she wrote.

The New York Times has reported that the comedian has apologized in private to Schachner, sending a message on Facebook.

“Last time I talked to you ended in a sordid fashion,” he is said to have written in the message. “That was a bad time in my life and I’m sorry.”

“I remember thinking what a repulsive person I was being by responding the way that I did.”

Earlier today, the New York premiere of C.K.’s new movie was canceled and the comedian withdrew from an appearance on The Late Show With Stephen Colbert.

As of this writing, neither C.K. or his agent, Lewis Kay, have replied to these specific accusations.


Mediaite summary, full story at

www.nytimes.com


Uhhhh, If you listen to Louis CK comedy routine, he literally talks about how he does this to get people's reactions. It's what I think really common knowledge for all his fans.

Wasn't common knowledge to me and is totally inexcusable. This sucks, I liked him.

As a rule, if at any point in doing your job you get naked and start masturbating, you're doing your job wrong.


porn star or prostitute?
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Nebuchad
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Switzerland12363 Posts
November 09 2017 21:00 GMT
#183874
On November 10 2017 05:50 KwarK wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2017 05:48 ShoCkeyy wrote:
On November 10 2017 05:45 Nevuk wrote:
Sexual misconduct keeps coming. Now Louis ck, whom I personally always felt somewhat uneasy about for no reason.
Five women have stepped forward and accused the 50-year-old of sexual misconduct, with several alleging that his modus operandi seemed to be getting naked and masturbating without consent
Comedians Dana Min Goodman and Julia Wolov told the paper that C.K. asked to take his penis out while they were all hanging out in a hotel room in 2002.

The comedy duo thought it was a joke until he actually did it.

“He proceeded to take all of his clothes off, and get completely naked, and started masturbating,” Goodman said. “We were paralyzed.”

“I think the line gets crossed when you take all your clothes off and start masturbating,” Wolov concurred. “Because of this moment, as gross as it is, we feel compelled to speak.”

A third comedian, Abby Schachner, has alleged that C.K. called her on the phone and began masturbating, all the while speaking about “unprofessional and inappropriate” topics.

“I definitely wasn’t encouraging it,” she said. “You want to believe it’s not happening.”

“I felt very ashamed.”

A fourth woman, Rebecca Corry, said the two were working on a television pilot together when the comedian did something similar, asking if he could masturbate in her presence.

“He asked if we could go to my dressing room so he could masturbate in front of me,” she said, noting that she reminded him of his wife and child. “His face got red and he told me he had issues.”

Actors Courteney Cox and David Arquette were executive producers on the unnamed pilot and both confirm that the incident occurred.

“What happened to Rebecca on that set was awful,” Cox said.

A fifth woman, who remains anonymous, also spoke to the newspaper, alleging that he repeatedly asked her if he could masturbate in front of her. She eventually relented.

“I think the big piece of why I said yes was because of the culture,” she said. “He abused his power.”

Rumors that C.K. participated in this brand of sexual misconduct have been floating around comedy circles for years, with many publications — most notably now-defunct Gawker — commenting on the rumors. This is the first time, however, that named sources have come forward.

Comedian Tig Notaro considered herself a good friend of C.K. When she found out about these allegations, however, she recoiled, accusing him of producing one of her comedy specials just so he could “look like a good guy, supporting a woman.”

“Sadly, I’ve come to learn that Louis C.K.’s victims are not only real, but many are actual friends of mine within the comedy community,” she wrote.

The New York Times has reported that the comedian has apologized in private to Schachner, sending a message on Facebook.

“Last time I talked to you ended in a sordid fashion,” he is said to have written in the message. “That was a bad time in my life and I’m sorry.”

“I remember thinking what a repulsive person I was being by responding the way that I did.”

Earlier today, the New York premiere of C.K.’s new movie was canceled and the comedian withdrew from an appearance on The Late Show With Stephen Colbert.

As of this writing, neither C.K. or his agent, Lewis Kay, have replied to these specific accusations.


Mediaite summary, full story at

www.nytimes.com


Uhhhh, If you listen to Louis CK comedy routine, he literally talks about how he does this to get people's reactions. It's what I think really common knowledge for all his fans.

Wasn't common knowledge to me and is totally inexcusable. This sucks, I liked him.

As a rule, if at any point in doing your job you get naked and start masturbating, you're doing your job wrong.


I've come to find out that I have a different reaction when people I like (Louis CK and Tariq Ramadan so far (I liked Spacey too but his "oh btw I'm gay" was bad enough that it didn't matter)) are accused. I dislike that about myself.
No will to live, no wish to die
farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18839 Posts
November 09 2017 21:01 GMT
#183875
On November 10 2017 06:00 Nebuchad wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2017 05:50 KwarK wrote:
On November 10 2017 05:48 ShoCkeyy wrote:
On November 10 2017 05:45 Nevuk wrote:
Sexual misconduct keeps coming. Now Louis ck, whom I personally always felt somewhat uneasy about for no reason.
Five women have stepped forward and accused the 50-year-old of sexual misconduct, with several alleging that his modus operandi seemed to be getting naked and masturbating without consent
Comedians Dana Min Goodman and Julia Wolov told the paper that C.K. asked to take his penis out while they were all hanging out in a hotel room in 2002.

The comedy duo thought it was a joke until he actually did it.

“He proceeded to take all of his clothes off, and get completely naked, and started masturbating,” Goodman said. “We were paralyzed.”

“I think the line gets crossed when you take all your clothes off and start masturbating,” Wolov concurred. “Because of this moment, as gross as it is, we feel compelled to speak.”

A third comedian, Abby Schachner, has alleged that C.K. called her on the phone and began masturbating, all the while speaking about “unprofessional and inappropriate” topics.

“I definitely wasn’t encouraging it,” she said. “You want to believe it’s not happening.”

“I felt very ashamed.”

A fourth woman, Rebecca Corry, said the two were working on a television pilot together when the comedian did something similar, asking if he could masturbate in her presence.

“He asked if we could go to my dressing room so he could masturbate in front of me,” she said, noting that she reminded him of his wife and child. “His face got red and he told me he had issues.”

Actors Courteney Cox and David Arquette were executive producers on the unnamed pilot and both confirm that the incident occurred.

“What happened to Rebecca on that set was awful,” Cox said.

A fifth woman, who remains anonymous, also spoke to the newspaper, alleging that he repeatedly asked her if he could masturbate in front of her. She eventually relented.

“I think the big piece of why I said yes was because of the culture,” she said. “He abused his power.”

Rumors that C.K. participated in this brand of sexual misconduct have been floating around comedy circles for years, with many publications — most notably now-defunct Gawker — commenting on the rumors. This is the first time, however, that named sources have come forward.

Comedian Tig Notaro considered herself a good friend of C.K. When she found out about these allegations, however, she recoiled, accusing him of producing one of her comedy specials just so he could “look like a good guy, supporting a woman.”

“Sadly, I’ve come to learn that Louis C.K.’s victims are not only real, but many are actual friends of mine within the comedy community,” she wrote.

The New York Times has reported that the comedian has apologized in private to Schachner, sending a message on Facebook.

“Last time I talked to you ended in a sordid fashion,” he is said to have written in the message. “That was a bad time in my life and I’m sorry.”

“I remember thinking what a repulsive person I was being by responding the way that I did.”

Earlier today, the New York premiere of C.K.’s new movie was canceled and the comedian withdrew from an appearance on The Late Show With Stephen Colbert.

As of this writing, neither C.K. or his agent, Lewis Kay, have replied to these specific accusations.


Mediaite summary, full story at

www.nytimes.com


Uhhhh, If you listen to Louis CK comedy routine, he literally talks about how he does this to get people's reactions. It's what I think really common knowledge for all his fans.

Wasn't common knowledge to me and is totally inexcusable. This sucks, I liked him.

As a rule, if at any point in doing your job you get naked and start masturbating, you're doing your job wrong.


I've come to find out that I have a different reaction when people I like (Louis CK and Tariq Ramadan so far (I liked Spacey too but his "oh btw I'm gay" was bad enough that it didn't matter)) are accused. I dislike that about myself.

I feel the same way, it's like a knee-jerk thing I can't quite tamp down even though I know it's shitty.
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States43263 Posts
November 09 2017 21:12 GMT
#183876
On November 10 2017 05:55 Velr wrote:
So they come out with it now because its all the rage atm?

Seriously, this whole #metoo thing is retarded, not because the underlying issue is, true asshole like weinstein should be attacked... But the dumb shit you see there... Neo puritanism at its finest.

If you're a successful and influential comedian touring with some less well known female comedians, don't masturbate at them. It's work. Not especially puritanical.
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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-11-09 21:15:00
November 09 2017 21:13 GMT
#183877
It sucks to be let down by people that you just wanted to admire and enjoy their work. That is on top of have coming to terms with all the harm they did and that your loss of enjoyment is nothing in the face of that.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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NewSunshine
Profile Joined July 2011
United States5938 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-11-09 21:17:06
November 09 2017 21:13 GMT
#183878
On November 10 2017 05:28 GreenHorizons wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2017 05:20 KwarK wrote:
xDaunt,
Do you believe that the franchise should be limited to individuals who are not dependent upon government spending? Or do you believe that the two issues are completely unrelated and that the franchise is an absolute right, regardless of the level of dependence upon government spending?

I ask because you're heavily implying the former but refusing to come out and say it.


This is the question I want an answer to. Igne's right about a few people and that's why xDaunt has been answering them and not this.

I would like to see it answered as well. xD has managed to dodge answering Kwark because he can bite on what other people are saying instead, implicitly refusing to answer, so that's what he's done so far. He and Danglars can act like they're put out all they want, but it's a single straightforward question. It shouldn't be that hard to get an answer. That's what I take issue with, at the very least.

On November 10 2017 06:13 Plansix wrote:
It sucks to be let down by people that you just wanted to admit and enjoy their work. That is on top of have coming to terms with all the harm they did and that your loss of enjoyment is nothing in the face of that.

I'm experiencing that too. Granted, it was House of Cards I was enjoying, so in my particular case there's no ambiguity about how awful it is. In the grand scheme of things, it's a very big positive to have this movement going on, but it's ripping off a bandaid. It hurts.
"If you find yourself feeling lost, take pride in the accuracy of your feelings." - Night Vale
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-11-09 21:27:35
November 09 2017 21:25 GMT
#183879
Why would I commit myself to a false dichotomy -- particularly one that is inapplicable to the topic at hand?

EDIT: But no, I would not take away voting rights based upon receipt of welfare benefits.
ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-11-09 21:25:54
November 09 2017 21:25 GMT
#183880
On November 10 2017 05:52 kollin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2017 05:48 ShoCkeyy wrote:
On November 10 2017 05:45 Nevuk wrote:
Sexual misconduct keeps coming. Now Louis ck, whom I personally always felt somewhat uneasy about for no reason.
Five women have stepped forward and accused the 50-year-old of sexual misconduct, with several alleging that his modus operandi seemed to be getting naked and masturbating without consent
Comedians Dana Min Goodman and Julia Wolov told the paper that C.K. asked to take his penis out while they were all hanging out in a hotel room in 2002.

The comedy duo thought it was a joke until he actually did it.

“He proceeded to take all of his clothes off, and get completely naked, and started masturbating,” Goodman said. “We were paralyzed.”

“I think the line gets crossed when you take all your clothes off and start masturbating,” Wolov concurred. “Because of this moment, as gross as it is, we feel compelled to speak.”

A third comedian, Abby Schachner, has alleged that C.K. called her on the phone and began masturbating, all the while speaking about “unprofessional and inappropriate” topics.

“I definitely wasn’t encouraging it,” she said. “You want to believe it’s not happening.”

“I felt very ashamed.”

A fourth woman, Rebecca Corry, said the two were working on a television pilot together when the comedian did something similar, asking if he could masturbate in her presence.

“He asked if we could go to my dressing room so he could masturbate in front of me,” she said, noting that she reminded him of his wife and child. “His face got red and he told me he had issues.”

Actors Courteney Cox and David Arquette were executive producers on the unnamed pilot and both confirm that the incident occurred.

“What happened to Rebecca on that set was awful,” Cox said.

A fifth woman, who remains anonymous, also spoke to the newspaper, alleging that he repeatedly asked her if he could masturbate in front of her. She eventually relented.

“I think the big piece of why I said yes was because of the culture,” she said. “He abused his power.”

Rumors that C.K. participated in this brand of sexual misconduct have been floating around comedy circles for years, with many publications — most notably now-defunct Gawker — commenting on the rumors. This is the first time, however, that named sources have come forward.

Comedian Tig Notaro considered herself a good friend of C.K. When she found out about these allegations, however, she recoiled, accusing him of producing one of her comedy specials just so he could “look like a good guy, supporting a woman.”

“Sadly, I’ve come to learn that Louis C.K.’s victims are not only real, but many are actual friends of mine within the comedy community,” she wrote.

The New York Times has reported that the comedian has apologized in private to Schachner, sending a message on Facebook.

“Last time I talked to you ended in a sordid fashion,” he is said to have written in the message. “That was a bad time in my life and I’m sorry.”

“I remember thinking what a repulsive person I was being by responding the way that I did.”

Earlier today, the New York premiere of C.K.’s new movie was canceled and the comedian withdrew from an appearance on The Late Show With Stephen Colbert.

As of this writing, neither C.K. or his agent, Lewis Kay, have replied to these specific accusations.


Mediaite summary, full story at

www.nytimes.com


Uhhhh, If you listen to Louis CK comedy routine, he literally talks about how he does this to get people's reactions. It's what I think really common knowledge for all his fans.

Is that OK then?


Obviously it's not ok, but everyone laughed at it before, now that it's "real", and people aren't laughing. Like you think comedians make up 100% of their routine or nah? I thought it was true, I've heard stories of people having to sign NDA's around people like him, and music artists so they don't talk about what goes on behind closed doors.
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