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{CC}StealthBlue
United States41117 Posts
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GreenHorizons
United States24505 Posts
On November 07 2017 23:09 brian wrote: because my rent is nearly 2k/mo. who can afford to not have a job? it’s surreal to me that you think any job is expendable. if i lost my job id quickly find myself bankrupt and homeless. Pretty clever system they have there isn't it? How far could they take you before you'd risk your job? | ||
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LegalLord
United States13779 Posts
On November 07 2017 23:14 {CC}StealthBlue wrote: https://twitter.com/kylegriffin1/status/927897244543496192 So the representatives of the Syrian govt that would sign off on such a thing are now allowed to do so? Seems like a potentially noteworthy story. | ||
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brian
United States9644 Posts
On November 07 2017 23:17 GreenHorizons wrote: Pretty clever system they have there isn't it? How far could they take you before you'd risk your job? i’m not entirely sure what you’re asking but to at least play along, as far as i can tell right now? the logical answer is until i find myself needing to relocate my entire life. at that point i’d be willing to throw my job away. for as long as i plan to stay where i am, i need it, and i can’t think of any exceptions off the top of my head. i’ve found myself in a pretty nice spot with fairly specialized knowledge, but then i don’t exactly have a transferable skill set rip. luckily job security in general is a pretty core principle of my company, and mine especially is fairly above average. but also being a DC HQ business i’ll certainly keep in mind how to ‘act appropriately’ in case the prez happens to drive on by. which is fucking weird. | ||
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zlefin
United States7689 Posts
On November 07 2017 23:00 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote: She could read her contract and then if clear, sue for political persecution. political belief isn't a protected class, so there probably wouldn't be grounds. i don't think political persecution claims even apply unless she worked for the government itself. | ||
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IyMoon
United States1249 Posts
On November 07 2017 23:29 zlefin wrote: political belief isn't a protected class, so there probably wouldn't be grounds. i don't think political persecution claims even apply unless she worked for the government itself. If she has at will employment she is SOL. Although I don't really get WHY she was fired. Did enough people complain to her boss? I don't even know where this women works so its not like she caused bad PR? | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On November 07 2017 23:17 GreenHorizons wrote: Pretty clever system they have there isn't it? How far could they take you before you'd risk your job? The era where political opinions costs us our jobs and livelihoods. If this is the cost of having idiots like the google clown or Nazis fired from their jobs, I’m ok with it. | ||
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Zambrah
United States7393 Posts
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{CC}StealthBlue
United States41117 Posts
On November 07 2017 23:43 Zambrah wrote: Time to go vote in the VA Elections. Time to vote for not Ed Gillespie and get a glimpse into that post-Trump voting life. It's Virginia... don't hold your breath. | ||
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mortyFromRickAndMort
85 Posts
On November 07 2017 23:35 Plansix wrote: If this is the cost of having idiots like the google clown or Nazis fired from their jobs, I’m ok with it. Honestly, have you read that memo? It was super productive and more anti-discrimination than pro-discrimination. It wasn't anti-diversity, it just dared to say that our biology has something to do with the choices we make. The most painful think about the memo wasn't that the guy became an alt-right hero, but that countless news outlets couldn't be bothered to actually read it and preferred to just call him a misogynist. | ||
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Danglars
United States12133 Posts
On November 07 2017 23:43 Zambrah wrote: Time to go vote in the VA Elections. Time to vote for not Ed Gillespie and get a glimpse into that post-Trump voting life. The DC/lobbyist class is just too big in Alexandria and environs. I don’t think rural and southern can turn out in sufficient numbers anymore. | ||
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Zambrah
United States7393 Posts
On November 08 2017 00:02 Danglars wrote: The DC/lobbyist class is just too big in Alexandria and environs. I don’t think rural and southern can turn out in sufficient numbers anymore. Yeah, I'm kind of leaning on NOVA to prevent what I've seen of rural VA win out. | ||
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{CC}StealthBlue
United States41117 Posts
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Mohdoo
United States15743 Posts
On November 07 2017 23:07 Leporello wrote: I would gladly quit any job that required me to tolerate treason. Easy. Even if I actually did need it for livelihood. What happened to people? We went from generations that volunteered to die around the world. And now we're just like, "but my livelihood". Not singling you, just pontificating. edit: because that's most depressing about Trump. The complacency. The obviousness with which any other generation would've just shut this shit down, really quick. You must be very well off. How in the world are you able to just decide not to work? | ||
Liquid`Jinro
Sweden33723 Posts
On November 07 2017 21:25 SoSexy wrote: Karma, baby. Sweet, sweet, Karma. I don't understand how you can be happy about this. For one, because I just can't fathom having such a lack of a rebellious streak. For two, because I'm pretty sure you were aghast at google memo guy getting fired (for the record, I don't like the idea of either firing). Just seems incredibly partisan to be cheering this shit on. However, I'd like to know whether she was for sure fired because of what she did or if it's just a coincidence. Don't really care enough to google at the moment tho  EDIT: I lied, I did google. She wants to work for PETA. Aaaaaaaaaaaand it's [the sympathy] is gone. | ||
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Logo
United States7542 Posts
On November 08 2017 00:49 Liquid`Jinro wrote: I don't understand how you can be happy about this. For one, because I just can't fathom having such a lack of a rebellious streak. For two, because I'm pretty sure you were aghast at google memo guy getting fired (for the record, I don't like the idea of either firing). Just seems incredibly partisan to be cheering this shit on. However, I'd like to know whether she was for sure fired because of what she did or if it's just a coincidence. Don't really care enough to google at the moment tho EDIT: I lied, I did google. She wants to work for PETA. Aaaaaaaaaaaand it's [the sympathy] is gone. It seems pretty bad, even if she's not sympathetic because she wants to work for PETA. https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/cyclist-fired-after-giving-trumps-motorcade-the-middle-finger/ And she also notified her employer, government contractor Akima LLC, that she was the bird-flipping biker. Management at the Herndon, Virginia marketing and communications company pulled her aside, pointed out a section of the firm's social media policy banning obscenity in employee social media accounts and fired her. She was then escorted out of the building, according to The Washington Post. [...] To complicate matters, while Briskman was in charge of Akima's social media presence, prior to the middle finger incident, she came across a public Facebook comment made by a senior director at the company regarding Black Lives Matter, the Post also reported. "You're a f*****g Libtard a*****e," he commented in an otherwise civil conversation from a profile that clearly labels him as an Akima employee. The person on the receiving end of the harsh words even challenged the director for the way he was representing his company. Even after Briskman flagged the interaction for senior management, that executive kept his job. | ||
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Tachion
Canada8573 Posts
She worked for a government contractor, went out of her way to tell her bosses about it, and posted the picture on her social media accounts. According to Briskman, her bosses at Akima said that the photo could put their government contracts at risk. Makes sense to me. | ||
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Logo
United States7542 Posts
On November 08 2017 01:00 Tachion wrote: https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/3kv5bv/this-woman-was-fired-after-giving-trumps-motorcade-the-finger-vgtrn She worked for a government contractor, went out of her way to tell her bosses about it, and posted the picture on her social media accounts. Makes sense to me. Nothing Briskman was wearing on her bike ride connected her to Akima, and her face is not shown in the photo, which shows her from the back. There is also no link to the company on her social media profiles, where she posted the photo. | ||
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farvacola
United States18876 Posts
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brian
United States9644 Posts
On November 08 2017 01:00 Tachion wrote: https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/3kv5bv/this-woman-was-fired-after-giving-trumps-motorcade-the-finger-vgtrn She worked for a government contractor, went out of her way to tell her bosses about it, and posted the picture on her social media accounts. Makes sense to me. see that actually DOESNT make sense to me. in MOST cases, yes, don’t bite the hand that feeds you. unless it’s the government. we have specific laws that prevent retaliation from the government to a person. understanding that there’s a middle-man in the equation that has to make these calls for the good of their company, this is one situation in which it’s not a comfortable feeling for me. and on top of that, again, ‘government contractor’ is a title so removed from any meaning that it’s impossible to tell, from where we stand, what kind of exposure they (Akima LLC) might actually have. | ||
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