EPTI read it as:" if people are that overworked you don't need a study, you need to solve it now."
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Velr
Switzerland10696 Posts
I read it as:" if people are that overworked you don't need a study, you need to solve it now." | ||
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Biff The Understudy
France7886 Posts
On October 03 2017 01:33 sc-darkness wrote: Another gun incident. Another wasted chance to reduce weapons in the US. Next I guess? But have you thought about the guys who do so much money selling war weapons to everyone and all those clients who get a hard on by purchasing stuff that can turn 400 people into steak tartare in 15 minutes? Oh and also ideology nuts who really believe that everyone having enough ammo to wipe out a city is what keeps murican freedom going and prevent evil government from taking over. Maveric far west proto fascist fantasies are well worth a few thousand lives, aren't they? | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On October 03 2017 01:41 Velr wrote: Isn't that kinda what McCain is saying tho? I read it as:" if people are that overworked you don't need a study, you need to solve it now." I re-read my post and I wasn't clear. I was saying that the quote was saying the entire problem was the peek of stupid. | ||
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Biff The Understudy
France7886 Posts
Oh wait... | ||
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oBlade
United States5571 Posts
On October 03 2017 01:45 Biff The Understudy wrote: But have you thought about the guys who do so much money selling war weapons to everyone and all those clients who get a hard on by purchasing stuff that can turn 400 people into steak tartare in 15 minutes? Oh and also ideology nuts who really believe that everyone having enough ammo to wipe out a city is what keeps murican freedom going and prevent evil government from taking over. Maveric far west proto fascist fantasies are well worth a few thousand lives, aren't they? Are you sure it's nuts and gun companies and not just regular people and the second amendment? I mean is there a bigger civil rights group than the NRA? | ||
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Logo
United States7542 Posts
On October 03 2017 01:51 oBlade wrote: Are you sure it's nuts and gun companies and not just regular people and the second amendment? I mean is there a bigger civil rights group than the NRA? What's the difference between NRA and "Nuts and Gun Companies"? I guess the NRA includes some people who don't know how the NRA works and just wants to show pride in owning a gun? | ||
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farvacola
United States18825 Posts
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Stratos_speAr
United States6959 Posts
On October 03 2017 01:28 Gorsameth wrote: that article Oo wow. Why are these Admirals allowed to retire early as 'punishment' and not getting discharged on the spot for gross incompetence? Because it isn't gross incompetence. Anything under an honorable discharge requires a specific set of conditions being met, none of which have been met by any of the admirals mentioned in the article. | ||
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farvacola
United States18825 Posts
On October 03 2017 01:53 Logo wrote: What's the difference between NRA and "Nuts and Gun Companies"? I guess the NRA includes some people who don't know how the NRA works and just wants to show pride in owning a gun? Folks not interested in the NRA's bullshit tactics tend to follow orgs like the Independent Firearm Owners' Association instead. | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
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RealityIsKing
613 Posts
On October 03 2017 01:58 Plansix wrote: Calling the NRA a civil rights group is beyond a stretch. Civil rights groups generally stand up for all civil rights, not just the one that makes gun manufactures the most money. It can be for both. NRA is a group that protect people's right to bear arms but simultaneously helps to employs our resident gun makers. | ||
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Velr
Switzerland10696 Posts
Its the same for big Pharma/Oil/Whatever/even pro Solar.... The NRA is just is active in a field that makes opposed people go "WTF!" way faster because the effects of too many big ass Guns tend to be very obvious once something bad happens. | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On October 03 2017 02:02 RealityIsKing wrote: It can be for both. NRA is a group that protect people's right to bear arms but simultaneously helps to employs our resident gun makers. If only those actions lined up with what the NRA does or who funds the NRA. The reality is that the NRA is just shill for the gun industry that pretends to be about second amendment rights. On October 03 2017 02:03 Velr wrote: Its just a prime example of marketing playing eith peoples fear and enough money to get/buy people in the right positions working. Its the same for big Pharma/Oil/Whatever. The NRA just is active in a field that makes opposed people go "WTF!" faster. And they are all about stoking the outrage to get attention. They had an ad recently about "Supporting Respect for the National Anthem," which had nothing to do with guns. They are also silent every time a black gun owner has their rights being trampled on by the state. | ||
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Logo
United States7542 Posts
On October 03 2017 02:02 RealityIsKing wrote: It can be for both. NRA is a group that protect people's right to bear arms but simultaneously helps to employs our resident gun makers. It seem way more accurate to say that NRA protects the right for companies to sell guns given who funds the NRA and how the NRA seems willing to act more in the interest of unrestricted gun sales than interest of gun owners. | ||
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RealityIsKing
613 Posts
On October 03 2017 02:04 Plansix wrote: If only those actions lined up with what the NRA does or who funds the NRA. The reality is that the NRA is just shill for the gun industry that pretends to be about second amendment rights. Its really a chicken and egg type of thing. Its not a black and white type of thing. Life have nuances. | ||
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Nyxisto
Germany6287 Posts
On October 03 2017 01:03 Velr wrote: That sounds a bit weird one day after what happened in catalonia. I wouldn't totally discard the possibility. Not that i believe it will happen, but you seem a bit too sure that it would never ever happen. The main issue is, if some goverment (or armed militia/whatever) is trying to take over, you can bet that it will have a big part of the population behind it. So its people with guns vs people with guns on both sides. Tanks can be on no, both or a third side depending on what the Military does. Congratulations you got a civil war. Looking at Syria and other countries that had/have civil wars, I would rather have a regime getting in charge i dislike than the country (and people you know and love in it) going up in flames. I'm not sure I understand you correctly, you're saying that you would have wanted people in Catalonia to have guns? It doesn't matter whether I'm sure or not if some government suddenly goes tyrannical. It's never a solution, it always produces nothing but carnage. | ||
KwarK
United States42609 Posts
On October 03 2017 01:28 Gorsameth wrote: that article Oo wow. Why are these Admirals allowed to retire early as 'punishment' and not getting discharged on the spot for gross incompetence? The captain of the US ship that shop down a civilian airliner that had been identified as a civilian airliner, killing hundreds of innocent people, got a medal at the end of his tour. You don't get fired from your job for incompetence in the military. | ||
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Velr
Switzerland10696 Posts
No, i said it isn't impossible for a democraticly elected goverment to harm/shoot people. You seemed to disregard that possibility a bit non chalantly.. | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On October 03 2017 02:05 RealityIsKing wrote: Its really a chicken and egg type of thing. Its not a black and white type of thing. Life have nuances. Nope. They are just a shitty advocacy group. There are better out there, doing better work. | ||
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oBlade
United States5571 Posts
On October 03 2017 01:58 Plansix wrote: Calling the NRA a civil rights group is beyond a stretch. Civil rights groups generally stand up for all civil rights, not just the one that makes gun manufactures the most money. Similarly, the Innocence Project and National Center for Lesbian Rights don't count as civil rights groups because they don't cover everything on God's green earth, just issues that don't affect me personally. | ||
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