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On September 25 2017 23:44 RealityIsKing wrote:Show nested quote +On September 25 2017 23:28 Sadist wrote:On September 25 2017 23:25 RealityIsKing wrote:On September 25 2017 23:21 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote:On September 25 2017 23:17 RealityIsKing wrote:
Come on people, stop with the identity politics. That's why dems lost 2016. The issue of race is why they began kneeling in the first place. Also brought more divisiveness into the country, which is bad. Its devisive because people are idiots and arent asking why they are kneeling even though its been said over and over. People dont stand in their homes when watching on tv. Is that disrespectful? Our president is a divisive scumbag. If you want to talk about divisive look at the orange bag of hot air. Our president is at least trying to unite the country into one unified nation by bringing national pride back and at least have the courage to fully stand up to NK's dictatorship.
if he's trying to unite people, having a bunch of athletes & team owners collectively tell him to go fuck himself suggests he isn't doing a very good job of it.
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On September 25 2017 23:44 RealityIsKing wrote:Show nested quote +On September 25 2017 23:28 Sadist wrote:On September 25 2017 23:25 RealityIsKing wrote:On September 25 2017 23:21 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote:The issue of race is why they began kneeling in the first place. Also brought more divisiveness into the country, which is bad. Its devisive because people are idiots and arent asking why they are kneeling even though its been said over and over. People dont stand in their homes when watching on tv. Is that disrespectful? Our president is a divisive scumbag. If you want to talk about divisive look at the orange bag of hot air. Our president is at least trying to unite the country into one unified nation by bringing national pride back and at least have the courage to fully stand up to NK's dictatorship.
The country is becoming more united, behind the NFL players and their right to protest.
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On September 25 2017 23:44 RealityIsKing wrote:Show nested quote +On September 25 2017 23:28 Sadist wrote:On September 25 2017 23:25 RealityIsKing wrote:On September 25 2017 23:21 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote:The issue of race is why they began kneeling in the first place. Also brought more divisiveness into the country, which is bad. Its devisive because people are idiots and arent asking why they are kneeling even though its been said over and over. People dont stand in their homes when watching on tv. Is that disrespectful? Our president is a divisive scumbag. If you want to talk about divisive look at the orange bag of hot air. Our president is at least trying to unite the country into one unified nation by bringing national pride back and at least have the courage to fully stand up to NK's dictatorship.
You're clearly trolling at this point. Bring national pride back? When did it ever leave? When we elected a black president? Did it leave then? I must have been asleep when national pride was lost. And each president has stood up to NK. They just never threatened them with unilateral war because...reasons?
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The Politicization of Everything
Healthy democracies have ample room for politics but leave a larger space for civil society and culture that unites more than divides. With the politicization of the National Football League and the national anthem, the Divided States of America are exhibiting a very unhealthy level of polarization and mistrust.
The progressive forces of identity politics started this poisoning of America’s favorite spectator sport last year by making a hero of Colin Kaepernick for refusing to stand for “The Star-Spangled Banner” before games. They raised the stakes this year by turning him into a progressive martyr because no team had picked him up to play quarterback after he opted out of his contract with the San Francisco 49ers.
The NFL is a meritocracy, and maybe coaches and general managers thought he wasn’t good enough for the divisions he might cause in a locker room or among fans. But the left said it was all about race and class.
All of this is cultural catnip for Donald Trump, who pounced on Friday night at a rally and on the weekend on Twitter with his familiar combination of gut political instinct, rhetorical excess, and ignorance. “Wouldn’t you love to see one of these NFL owners, when somebody disrespects our flag, to say, ‘Get that son of a bitch off the field right now, out, he’s fired. He’s fired,’” Mr. Trump said Friday.
No doubt most Americans agree with Mr. Trump that they don’t want their flag disrespected, especially by millionaire athletes. But Mr. Trump never stops at reasonable, and so he called for kneeling players to be fired or suspended, and if the league didn’t comply for fans to “boycott” the NFL.
He also plunged into the debate over head injuries without a speck of knowledge about the latest brain science, claiming that the NFL was “ruining the game” by trying to stop dangerous physical hits. This is the kind of rant you’d hear in a lousy sports bar.
Mr. Trump has managed to unite the players and owners against him, though several owners supported him for President and donated to his inaugural. The owners were almost obliged to defend their sport, even if their complaints that Mr. Trump was “divisive” ignored the divisive acts by Mr. Kaepernick and his media allies that injected politics into football in the first place.
Americans don’t begrudge athletes their free-speech rights—see the popularity of Charles Barkley —but disrespecting the national anthem puts partisanship above a symbol of nationhood that thousands have died for. Players who chose to kneel shouldn’t be surprised that fans around the country booed them on Sunday. This is the patriotic sentiment that they are helping Mr. Trump exploit for what he no doubt thinks is his own political advantage.
American democracy was healthier when politics at the ballpark was limited to fans booing politicians who threw out the first ball—almost as a bipartisan obligation. This showed a healthy skepticism toward the political class. But now the players want to be politicians and use their fame to lecture other Americans, the parsons of the press corps want to make them moral spokesmen, and the President wants to run against the players.
The losers are the millions of Americans who would rather cheer for their teams on Sunday as a respite from work and the other divisions of American life.
WSJ
This editorial is a good description of how this will backfire, as well as mixed impact for President Trump.
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On September 25 2017 23:49 farvacola wrote:
Even Dale Fucking Earnhardt Jr. is coming out in support of protesting NFL players.
Oh shit. I thought for sure any drivers that protested would get the boot, but could they really fire Dale Earnhardt Junior?
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On September 25 2017 23:52 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 25 2017 23:44 RealityIsKing wrote:On September 25 2017 23:28 Sadist wrote:On September 25 2017 23:25 RealityIsKing wrote:On September 25 2017 23:21 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote:The issue of race is why they began kneeling in the first place. Also brought more divisiveness into the country, which is bad. Its devisive because people are idiots and arent asking why they are kneeling even though its been said over and over. People dont stand in their homes when watching on tv. Is that disrespectful? Our president is a divisive scumbag. If you want to talk about divisive look at the orange bag of hot air. Our president is at least trying to unite the country into one unified nation by bringing national pride back and at least have the courage to fully stand up to NK's dictatorship. You're clearly trolling at this point. Bring national pride back? When did it ever leave? When we elected a black president? Did it leave then? I must have been asleep when national pride was lost. And each president has stood up to NK. They just never threatened them with unilateral war because...reasons?
Dude you are putting words into people's mouth and that's not cool.
It temporarily left during the election (or even prior to that as dems was carefully setting up for a Hillary win, but failed) when dems played identity politics by pitting LGBT/PoC/women against white heterosexual males.
It was basically identity politics vs economical nationalism in 2016 and we all know what decision people came to.
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The article raises some interesting points; but it'd be better if it didn't open up with some obvious trash nonsense which just shows the author to be foolish and biased. I'd rather have an article without the trash.
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like the statue shrouding, this is just another outrage i can’t really get behind. i see people being outraged because one dude kneels for the anthem and think ‘who gives a fuck?’
and then some real national outrage sparking more kneeling, sparking more outrage? lol. and to think i once read that it’s the liberals that hold the monopoly over outrage for the sake of outrage.
good for my boy Kaep, got his voice heard across the entire nation for nothing but taking a knee. truly remarkable, having such a quiet and personal protest reach so effectively. really started something good here i think.
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On September 25 2017 23:44 RealityIsKing wrote:Show nested quote +On September 25 2017 23:28 Sadist wrote:On September 25 2017 23:25 RealityIsKing wrote:On September 25 2017 23:21 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote:The issue of race is why they began kneeling in the first place. Also brought more divisiveness into the country, which is bad. Its devisive because people are idiots and arent asking why they are kneeling even though its been said over and over. People dont stand in their homes when watching on tv. Is that disrespectful? Our president is a divisive scumbag. If you want to talk about divisive look at the orange bag of hot air. Our president is at least trying to unite the country into one unified nation by bringing national pride back and at least have the courage to fully stand up to NK's dictatorship.
Trump is trying to unite the country? Are you on drug?
When did the US lost its national pride? Haven't seen it happening. In fact the annoying cliché that it's the "greatest country on earth" is more present than ever. Ask me and a bit less national pride wouldn't hurt you guys.
And you think entering a dick size contest and threatening nuclear holocaust à la Doctor Strangelove with a guy who makes his bread and butter from that kind of machisto empty bullshit is courageous and smart? It plays right in Kim's hand who only maintain his iton grip on his country by making the US the bad guy who wants to anihiliate them and achieve absolutely nothing because the US military is not fucking batshit crazy enough to ever go into an open nuclear war. Ask people in Seoul and Tokyo how much they like Trump's middle school crap.
Get real, for Christ sake. I'd love to give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you are trolling, but I've read you before and I unfortunately know better.
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On September 25 2017 23:58 RealityIsKing wrote:Show nested quote +On September 25 2017 23:52 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote:On September 25 2017 23:44 RealityIsKing wrote:On September 25 2017 23:28 Sadist wrote:On September 25 2017 23:25 RealityIsKing wrote:On September 25 2017 23:21 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote:The issue of race is why they began kneeling in the first place. Also brought more divisiveness into the country, which is bad. Its devisive because people are idiots and arent asking why they are kneeling even though its been said over and over. People dont stand in their homes when watching on tv. Is that disrespectful? Our president is a divisive scumbag. If you want to talk about divisive look at the orange bag of hot air. Our president is at least trying to unite the country into one unified nation by bringing national pride back and at least have the courage to fully stand up to NK's dictatorship. You're clearly trolling at this point. Bring national pride back? When did it ever leave? When we elected a black president? Did it leave then? I must have been asleep when national pride was lost. And each president has stood up to NK. They just never threatened them with unilateral war because...reasons? Dude you are putting words into people's mouth and that's not cool. It temporarily left during the election (or even prior to that as dems was carefully setting up for a Hillary win, but failed) when dems played identity politics by pitting LGBT/PoC/women against white heterosexual males. It was basically identity politics vs economical nationalism in 2016 and we all know what decision people came to.
I'm 100% sure we did not watch the same election unfold. Now I know you have no grasp of what has been going on this past year and beyond to spout such ignorance. Good day sir.
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On September 25 2017 23:58 RealityIsKing wrote:Show nested quote +On September 25 2017 23:52 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote:On September 25 2017 23:44 RealityIsKing wrote:On September 25 2017 23:28 Sadist wrote:On September 25 2017 23:25 RealityIsKing wrote:On September 25 2017 23:21 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote:The issue of race is why they began kneeling in the first place. Also brought more divisiveness into the country, which is bad. Its devisive because people are idiots and arent asking why they are kneeling even though its been said over and over. People dont stand in their homes when watching on tv. Is that disrespectful? Our president is a divisive scumbag. If you want to talk about divisive look at the orange bag of hot air. Our president is at least trying to unite the country into one unified nation by bringing national pride back and at least have the courage to fully stand up to NK's dictatorship. You're clearly trolling at this point. Bring national pride back? When did it ever leave? When we elected a black president? Did it leave then? I must have been asleep when national pride was lost. And each president has stood up to NK. They just never threatened them with unilateral war because...reasons? Dude you are putting words into people's mouth and that's not cool. It temporarily left during the election (or even prior to that as dems was carefully setting up for a Hillary win, but failed) when dems played identity politics by pitting LGBT/PoC/women against white heterosexual males. It was basically identity politics vs economical nationalism in 2016 and we all know what decision people came to.
So I know you and others like to say "identity politics" like it's some kind of filthy word, but what would you have discriminated peoples do? All the systemic racism PoC face, the rights continuously being contested/denied for LGBT folk, and even the sexism that women put up with, you just want them to keep quiet and not rock the boat?
Identity politics is real politics. Because when you're constantly treated like shit because of how you look or how you live, your existence has been made political by the people doing it. Plain and simple.
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Whodathunk that the folks inclined to call others snowflakes are having a meltdown in the face of expression.
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On September 25 2017 23:58 RealityIsKing wrote:Show nested quote +On September 25 2017 23:52 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote:On September 25 2017 23:44 RealityIsKing wrote:On September 25 2017 23:28 Sadist wrote:On September 25 2017 23:25 RealityIsKing wrote:On September 25 2017 23:21 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote:The issue of race is why they began kneeling in the first place. Also brought more divisiveness into the country, which is bad. Its devisive because people are idiots and arent asking why they are kneeling even though its been said over and over. People dont stand in their homes when watching on tv. Is that disrespectful? Our president is a divisive scumbag. If you want to talk about divisive look at the orange bag of hot air. Our president is at least trying to unite the country into one unified nation by bringing national pride back and at least have the courage to fully stand up to NK's dictatorship. You're clearly trolling at this point. Bring national pride back? When did it ever leave? When we elected a black president? Did it leave then? I must have been asleep when national pride was lost. And each president has stood up to NK. They just never threatened them with unilateral war because...reasons? Dude you are putting words into people's mouth and that's not cool. It temporarily left during the election (or even prior to that as dems was carefully setting up for a Hillary win, but failed) when dems played identity politics by pitting LGBT/PoC/women against white heterosexual males. It was basically identity politics vs economical nationalism in 2016 and we all know what decision people came to.
The majority of the country picked identity politics, but Trump won due to the electoral college systems? The conclusion of your bad argument contradicts the point you are trying to make.
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On September 26 2017 00:02 NewSunshine wrote:Show nested quote +On September 25 2017 23:58 RealityIsKing wrote:On September 25 2017 23:52 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote:On September 25 2017 23:44 RealityIsKing wrote:On September 25 2017 23:28 Sadist wrote:On September 25 2017 23:25 RealityIsKing wrote:On September 25 2017 23:21 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote:The issue of race is why they began kneeling in the first place. Also brought more divisiveness into the country, which is bad. Its devisive because people are idiots and arent asking why they are kneeling even though its been said over and over. People dont stand in their homes when watching on tv. Is that disrespectful? Our president is a divisive scumbag. If you want to talk about divisive look at the orange bag of hot air. Our president is at least trying to unite the country into one unified nation by bringing national pride back and at least have the courage to fully stand up to NK's dictatorship. You're clearly trolling at this point. Bring national pride back? When did it ever leave? When we elected a black president? Did it leave then? I must have been asleep when national pride was lost. And each president has stood up to NK. They just never threatened them with unilateral war because...reasons? Dude you are putting words into people's mouth and that's not cool. It temporarily left during the election (or even prior to that as dems was carefully setting up for a Hillary win, but failed) when dems played identity politics by pitting LGBT/PoC/women against white heterosexual males. It was basically identity politics vs economical nationalism in 2016 and we all know what decision people came to. So I know you and others like to say "identity politics" like it's some kind of filthy word, but what would you have discriminated peoples do? All the systemic racism PoC face, the rights continuously being contested/denied for LGBT folk, and even the sexism that women put up with, you just want them to keep quiet and not rock the boat? Identity politics is real politics. Because when you're constantly treated like shit because of how you look or how you live, your existence has been made political by the people doing it. Plain and simple.
I love white nationalists, anti-feminist sexist young men and people advocating discrimination against trans in the army and the public bathroom complaining about identity pomitics. Always think "and what are you doing, genius?"
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On September 26 2017 00:02 NewSunshine wrote:Show nested quote +On September 25 2017 23:58 RealityIsKing wrote:On September 25 2017 23:52 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote:On September 25 2017 23:44 RealityIsKing wrote:On September 25 2017 23:28 Sadist wrote:On September 25 2017 23:25 RealityIsKing wrote:On September 25 2017 23:21 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote:The issue of race is why they began kneeling in the first place. Also brought more divisiveness into the country, which is bad. Its devisive because people are idiots and arent asking why they are kneeling even though its been said over and over. People dont stand in their homes when watching on tv. Is that disrespectful? Our president is a divisive scumbag. If you want to talk about divisive look at the orange bag of hot air. Our president is at least trying to unite the country into one unified nation by bringing national pride back and at least have the courage to fully stand up to NK's dictatorship. You're clearly trolling at this point. Bring national pride back? When did it ever leave? When we elected a black president? Did it leave then? I must have been asleep when national pride was lost. And each president has stood up to NK. They just never threatened them with unilateral war because...reasons? Dude you are putting words into people's mouth and that's not cool. It temporarily left during the election (or even prior to that as dems was carefully setting up for a Hillary win, but failed) when dems played identity politics by pitting LGBT/PoC/women against white heterosexual males. It was basically identity politics vs economical nationalism in 2016 and we all know what decision people came to. So I know you and others like to say "identity politics" like it's some kind of filthy word, but what would you have discriminated peoples do? All the systemic racism PoC face, the rights continuously being contested/denied for LGBT folk, and even the sexism that women put up with, you just want them to keep quiet and not rock the boat? Identity politics is real politics. Because when you're constantly treated like shit because of how you look or how you live, your existence has been made political by the people doing it. Plain and simple.
You can clearly protest without painting one subset of the nation into horrible monsters.
And using violent manners in shutting down dissenting thoughts in various platforms is DEFINITELY NOT helping.
Instead it would be much more efficient to be to nice to dissenting voices and present them with provable facts (none of that wage gap/rape epidemic bs) first instead of going at it w/ "You are racists/sexists/(insert your favorite buzzword here) if you are not with us!".
Plain and simple.
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On September 26 2017 00:07 RealityIsKing wrote:Show nested quote +On September 26 2017 00:02 NewSunshine wrote:On September 25 2017 23:58 RealityIsKing wrote:On September 25 2017 23:52 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote:On September 25 2017 23:44 RealityIsKing wrote:On September 25 2017 23:28 Sadist wrote:On September 25 2017 23:25 RealityIsKing wrote:On September 25 2017 23:21 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote:The issue of race is why they began kneeling in the first place. Also brought more divisiveness into the country, which is bad. Its devisive because people are idiots and arent asking why they are kneeling even though its been said over and over. People dont stand in their homes when watching on tv. Is that disrespectful? Our president is a divisive scumbag. If you want to talk about divisive look at the orange bag of hot air. Our president is at least trying to unite the country into one unified nation by bringing national pride back and at least have the courage to fully stand up to NK's dictatorship. You're clearly trolling at this point. Bring national pride back? When did it ever leave? When we elected a black president? Did it leave then? I must have been asleep when national pride was lost. And each president has stood up to NK. They just never threatened them with unilateral war because...reasons? Dude you are putting words into people's mouth and that's not cool. It temporarily left during the election (or even prior to that as dems was carefully setting up for a Hillary win, but failed) when dems played identity politics by pitting LGBT/PoC/women against white heterosexual males. It was basically identity politics vs economical nationalism in 2016 and we all know what decision people came to. So I know you and others like to say "identity politics" like it's some kind of filthy word, but what would you have discriminated peoples do? All the systemic racism PoC face, the rights continuously being contested/denied for LGBT folk, and even the sexism that women put up with, you just want them to keep quiet and not rock the boat? Identity politics is real politics. Because when you're constantly treated like shit because of how you look or how you live, your existence has been made political by the people doing it. Plain and simple. You can clearly protest without painting one subset of the nation into horrible monsters. And using violent manners in shutting down dissenting thoughts in various platforms is DEFINITELY NOT helping. Instead it would be much more efficient to be to nice to dissenting voices and present them with provable facts (none of that wage gap/rape epidemic bs) first instead of going at it w/ "You are racists/sexists/(insert your favorite buzzword here) if you are not with us!". Plain and simple.
you're not presenting us with provable facts to support your arguments.
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The countries impacted are Chad, Iran, Libya, North Korea, Somalia, Syria, Venezuela and Yemen.
Restrictions are phased in, indefinite in duration, and not the same for every country.
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On September 25 2017 12:53 Aquanim wrote:Show nested quote +On September 25 2017 10:29 Aquanim wrote:On September 25 2017 10:17 xDaunt wrote:...
The nation should be defended. Against what? What threat does any of this pose to the "nation"? This was a serious question that I would like to see an answer to, in particular to see how "nation" is being defined. Show nested quote +On September 25 2017 10:59 xDaunt wrote:...
I'm not challenging anyone's right to do anything. What I am interested in is marginalizing certain inherently divisive and subversive ideas. I'd also like to know exactly what is being referred to here as an "inherently divisive and subversive idea".
The "inherently divisive and subversive idea" that I reject, and which I believe is a "threat" to the nation (meaning the US), is the idea that the US is a racist nation that consciously oppresses certain minorities, particularly insofar as this idea includes attacks (express or implied) upon American nationalism and patriotism which (as I have discussed before) I see as the glue that binds the nation together.
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On September 26 2017 00:10 zlefin wrote:Show nested quote +On September 26 2017 00:07 RealityIsKing wrote:On September 26 2017 00:02 NewSunshine wrote:On September 25 2017 23:58 RealityIsKing wrote:On September 25 2017 23:52 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote:On September 25 2017 23:44 RealityIsKing wrote:On September 25 2017 23:28 Sadist wrote:On September 25 2017 23:25 RealityIsKing wrote:On September 25 2017 23:21 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote:The issue of race is why they began kneeling in the first place. Also brought more divisiveness into the country, which is bad. Its devisive because people are idiots and arent asking why they are kneeling even though its been said over and over. People dont stand in their homes when watching on tv. Is that disrespectful? Our president is a divisive scumbag. If you want to talk about divisive look at the orange bag of hot air. Our president is at least trying to unite the country into one unified nation by bringing national pride back and at least have the courage to fully stand up to NK's dictatorship. You're clearly trolling at this point. Bring national pride back? When did it ever leave? When we elected a black president? Did it leave then? I must have been asleep when national pride was lost. And each president has stood up to NK. They just never threatened them with unilateral war because...reasons? Dude you are putting words into people's mouth and that's not cool. It temporarily left during the election (or even prior to that as dems was carefully setting up for a Hillary win, but failed) when dems played identity politics by pitting LGBT/PoC/women against white heterosexual males. It was basically identity politics vs economical nationalism in 2016 and we all know what decision people came to. So I know you and others like to say "identity politics" like it's some kind of filthy word, but what would you have discriminated peoples do? All the systemic racism PoC face, the rights continuously being contested/denied for LGBT folk, and even the sexism that women put up with, you just want them to keep quiet and not rock the boat? Identity politics is real politics. Because when you're constantly treated like shit because of how you look or how you live, your existence has been made political by the people doing it. Plain and simple. You can clearly protest without painting one subset of the nation into horrible monsters. And using violent manners in shutting down dissenting thoughts in various platforms is DEFINITELY NOT helping. Instead it would be much more efficient to be to nice to dissenting voices and present them with provable facts (none of that wage gap/rape epidemic bs) first instead of going at it w/ "You are racists/sexists/(insert your favorite buzzword here) if you are not with us!". Plain and simple. you're not presenting us with provable facts to support your arguments.
I'm presenting you with logic and reason.
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White House Senior Adviser Jared Kushner has used both a private email account and an official email address to communicate with other government officials, his attorney says. Responding to media reports about Kushner's email habits, his lawyer said, "All non-personal emails were forwarded to his official address."
The emails between Kushner's personal account and his White House colleagues number fewer than 100, according to Kushner's attorney, Abbe Lowell, in a statement relayed to us by NPR's Tamara Keith. Lowell said, "Mr. Kushner uses his White House email address to conduct White House business."
Emails have been a central theme for Kushner's father-in-law, President Trump, who has repeatedly said that Democratic rival Hillary Clinton should face federal criminal charges over her use of private email while serving as secretary of State.
In the aftermath of the hotly contested 2016 presidential campaign, new emphasis is placed on how officials handle email. Politico reported on Kushner's use of a private web domain and email account Sunday, while also clarifying that there aren't signs that the presidential aide has used the account to handle classified or sensitive materials.
Hillary Clinton has said that she didn't use her personal account to send or receive materials marked classified, either — but her routine use of the account for official business set off questions about documents that could potentially be retroactively declared secret, as well as concerns over how tens of thousands of emails and records from a private server might be properly archived in the government's system.
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Seems harmless but won't know until someone at the FBI goes CSI on it.
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