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{CC}StealthBlue
United States41117 Posts
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Kickboxer
Slovenia1308 Posts
Not high ranked enough is not a good argument. If a systematic difference exists, it should be fixed. You're making a silly argument by pretending we need to only deal with 1 problem at a time or only address the most significant factors. For having so much fun spiking your posts with little condescending twists, you aren't very good at this. Cool, white people need to forcefully disable themselves a little, or forcefully promote black people, whichever is your solution. You've "solved" one problem in your mind, on to the next. Can you specifically outline how you are going to solve tall privilege, good looks privilege and smart privilege? | ||
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farvacola
United States18870 Posts
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Mohdoo
United States15743 Posts
On September 06 2017 22:13 Kickboxer wrote: Cool, white people need to forcefully disable themselves a little, or forcefully promote black people, whichever is your solution. You've "solved" one problem in your mind, on to the next. Can you specifically outline how you are going to solve tall privilege, good looks privilege and smart privilege? lol what in the world is this post even? Are you under the impression that this disparity is caused by white people just not being able to turn down the awesome enough? "forcefully promote black people"? What are you even talking about? Who are you even arguing with here? | ||
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PM_ME_NICE_PUPPERS
Pakistan51 Posts
On September 06 2017 22:08 Mohdoo wrote: Not high ranked enough is not a good argument. If a systematic difference exists, it should be fixed. You're making a silly argument by pretending we need to only deal with 1 problem at a time or only address the most significant factors. For having so much fun spiking your posts with little condescending twists, you aren't very good at this. That doesn't invalidate my point in the least. The collectivist idea is to look at a person just based on their race and gender. You're not an individual, your circumstances don't matter, only the most basic and immediately obvious* factors of race and gender determine your 'privilege'. Based on those criteria, you're either the oppressor or the oppressed. It's like mentally challenged Marxism. My point isn't that an imbalance doesn't exist on certain areas of life, my point is that you can tell nothing about an individual by JUST looking at their race and sex. (*to be fair, with feminists, gender mightn't be immediately obvious afterall) | ||
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farvacola
United States18870 Posts
On September 06 2017 22:16 Mohdoo wrote: lol what in the world is this post even? Are you under the impression that this disparity is caused by white people just not being able to turn down the awesome enough? "forcefully promote black people"? What are you even talking about? Who are you even arguing with here? He's trying his hardest to equate race with stuff like height because hey, words don't matter and appearances are all the same. Remember, arguing with people who unironically use the term "SJW" is much more Whose Line is it Anyway and much less Jeopardy. | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On September 06 2017 22:13 Kickboxer wrote: Cool, white people need to forcefully disable themselves a little, or forcefully promote black people, whichever is your solution. You've "solved" one problem in your mind, on to the next. Can you specifically outline how you are going to solve tall privilege, good looks privilege and smart privilege? Or simply recognize that the odds are stacked against blacks in the US and be aware of that. It isn’t really that big of a demand. | ||
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Kickboxer
Slovenia1308 Posts
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Nebuchad
Switzerland12610 Posts
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Kickboxer
Slovenia1308 Posts
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farvacola
United States18870 Posts
On September 06 2017 22:21 Nebuchad wrote: Oh so this must be the "White identity politics" I've been hearing about. Looks like these folks need to bow down to their new Malcolm Gladwell overlords :D | ||
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zlefin
United States7689 Posts
On September 06 2017 21:53 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote: How does he still manage to tweet out complete lies like USA being the highest taxed country in the world? Like it's just not even close to being true. because many people do not value truth. also many are too dumb to recognize it. there's simply no consequences for lying. it'd be nice to add some, but I can't think of any good way to add them. | ||
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Kickboxer
Slovenia1308 Posts
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Mohdoo
United States15743 Posts
On September 06 2017 22:17 PM_ME_NICE_PUPPERS wrote: My point isn't that an imbalance doesn't exist on certain areas of life, my point is that you can tell nothing about an individual by JUST looking at their race and sex. Right, we're well past this distinction. Are you saying that in order for a problem to be worth solving, it must be the absolutely dominating factor that nothing else can overpower? For there to be rich black women means we should not try to correct systematic disadvantages of being female or black? | ||
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Kickboxer
Slovenia1308 Posts
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PM_ME_NICE_PUPPERS
Pakistan51 Posts
On September 06 2017 22:23 zlefin wrote: because many people do not value truth. also many are too dumb to recognize it. there's simply no consequences for lying. it'd be nice to add some, but I can't think of any good way to add them. Just reading these tweets makes my blood boil. This constant stream of misinformation and ignorance is so dangerous. | ||
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ChristianS
United States3304 Posts
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farvacola
United States18870 Posts
On September 06 2017 22:23 Kickboxer wrote: There's nothing narrow. You're either privileged, or you're not. If "white privilege" is real so are all the others. Take your pick. No, there is no universal "privilege" template plug-in compatible with most browsers, sorry. The degree to which systems treat individuals fairly or unfairly based on outward characteristics inextricably relates to the characteristic at hand, and pretending otherwise betrays your obvious agenda. On September 06 2017 22:25 Kickboxer wrote: This guy saying ugly people are not systematically oppressed compared to good looking people, smh. Just wow Is this where you make an "I have a black friend" confession as you tell us all that many ugly people you know get teated unfairly? | ||
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Mohdoo
United States15743 Posts
On September 06 2017 22:23 Kickboxer wrote: There's nothing narrow. You're either privileged, or you're not. If "white privilege" is real so are all the others. Take your pick. Why is this kind of black and white thinking so appealing to you? Does nuance cause anxiety for you? Does situational ambiguity frustrate you? What if the world is absurdly complex and we could never hope to properly model it? What if our entire existing technological and societal framework is the result of relentless obsession over nuance and detail? | ||
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Doodsmack
United States7224 Posts
On September 06 2017 22:23 zlefin wrote: because many people do not value truth. also many are too dumb to recognize it. there's simply no consequences for lying. it'd be nice to add some, but I can't think of any good way to add them. It is pretty incredible that Republicans would trade, by an affirmative choice, the bias of the MSM for this caliber of lies from Trump. I mean what if he even lied to them such that they got conned through the nose? | ||
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