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{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
September 02 2017 23:00 GMT
#172601
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-09-02 23:10:21
September 02 2017 23:01 GMT
#172602


Also:

I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9675 Posts
September 02 2017 23:19 GMT
#172603
On September 03 2017 08:00 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
https://twitter.com/ABCPolitics/status/904035420488458242


Has anyone noticed that your president seems to be some kind of moron?
I'm just saying, like, why is he president?
RIP Meatloaf <3
Karis Vas Ryaar
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States4396 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-09-02 23:27:31
September 02 2017 23:26 GMT
#172604
SK already feels that the trade deal favors US. sure this will go well

"I'm not agreeing with a lot of Virus's decisions but they are working" Tasteless. Ipl4 Losers Bracket Virus 2-1 Maru
LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United Kingdom13775 Posts
September 02 2017 23:41 GMT
#172605
Yeah, this is the kind of deplorable policy-pushing that needs to stop if it is to be believed that the opposition to Trump is principled, rather than just political opportunism.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
Introvert
Profile Joined April 2011
United States4825 Posts
September 02 2017 23:47 GMT
#172606
On September 03 2017 08:19 Jockmcplop wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 03 2017 08:00 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
https://twitter.com/ABCPolitics/status/904035420488458242


Has anyone noticed that your president seems to be some kind of moron?
I'm just saying, like, why is he president?


What in particular with regard to this clip?
"It is therefore only at the birth of a society that one can be completely logical in the laws. When you see a people enjoying this advantage, do not hasten to conclude that it is wise; think rather that it is young." -Alexis de Tocqueville
NewSunshine
Profile Joined July 2011
United States5938 Posts
September 02 2017 23:55 GMT
#172607
On September 03 2017 08:47 Introvert wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 03 2017 08:19 Jockmcplop wrote:
On September 03 2017 08:00 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
https://twitter.com/ABCPolitics/status/904035420488458242


Has anyone noticed that your president seems to be some kind of moron?
I'm just saying, like, why is he president?


What in particular with regard to this clip?

I'm guessing how it's the latest in a long line of incredibly dumb and insensitive things Trump has been saying anytime something important happens.
"If you find yourself feeling lost, take pride in the accuracy of your feelings." - Night Vale
m4ini
Profile Joined February 2014
4215 Posts
September 02 2017 23:57 GMT
#172608
On September 03 2017 08:55 NewSunshine wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 03 2017 08:47 Introvert wrote:
On September 03 2017 08:19 Jockmcplop wrote:
On September 03 2017 08:00 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
https://twitter.com/ABCPolitics/status/904035420488458242


Has anyone noticed that your president seems to be some kind of moron?
I'm just saying, like, why is he president?


What in particular with regard to this clip?

I'm guessing how it's the latest in a long line of incredibly dumb and insensitive things Trump has been saying anytime something important happens.


Nah, you usually hear presidents say how tough it was to have a state partially devastated, but a wonderful thing to watch for the country, all the happiness. 'twas nice.
On track to MA1950A.
Introvert
Profile Joined April 2011
United States4825 Posts
September 03 2017 00:01 GMT
#172609
On September 03 2017 08:55 NewSunshine wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 03 2017 08:47 Introvert wrote:
On September 03 2017 08:19 Jockmcplop wrote:
On September 03 2017 08:00 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
https://twitter.com/ABCPolitics/status/904035420488458242


Has anyone noticed that your president seems to be some kind of moron?
I'm just saying, like, why is he president?


What in particular with regard to this clip?

I'm guessing how it's the latest in a long line of incredibly dumb and insensitive things Trump has been saying anytime something important happens.


I mean, he was talking about the response, not the hurricane. I'm not sure what is wrong here.
"It is therefore only at the birth of a society that one can be completely logical in the laws. When you see a people enjoying this advantage, do not hasten to conclude that it is wise; think rather that it is young." -Alexis de Tocqueville
mahrgell
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Germany3943 Posts
September 03 2017 00:07 GMT
#172610
Well... I think it got kinda lost in his usual lack of ability to express himself... But I also think that it was the most normal statement ever if your remove the Trumpish clumsiness.

Basically after every disaster, be it natural disaster, terror attack or whatever you hear some politician say: "This was a terrible event, but to see how well people responded and helped each other, how everyone stood together, yadayada, this really warmed my heart / made me proud /made me believe in whatever great"


But I think right now, all his advisers are frantically looking for new orbs to touch for him. I can't imagine Trump will be able to accept that his fiercest rival is outdoing him in orb touching.
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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-09-03 02:19:23
September 03 2017 02:15 GMT
#172611


This whole shitting on the media is really paying off, since the media was side by side with the rescue effort. Literally helping to saving people and then reporting on it. What a clown.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States42967 Posts
September 03 2017 02:18 GMT
#172612
Even if the media wasn't doing as much as the Coast Guard to rescue people from the flooding I feel like they should still be applauded.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32742 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-09-03 03:05:34
September 03 2017 02:53 GMT
#172613
On September 03 2017 11:15 Plansix wrote:
https://twitter.com/stjbs/status/904114998158516224

This whole shitting on the media is really paying off, since the media was side by side with the rescue effort. Literally helping to saving people and then reporting on it. What a clown.

Because surely hours of footage, interviews, and acts of volunteering by journalists were done from the coziness of their homes. Just your weekly (or daily at this rate) dig at the media by Trump.

On September 03 2017 11:18 KwarK wrote:
Even if the media wasn't doing as much as the Coast Guard to rescue people from the flooding I feel like they should still be applauded.

Well they are the media, not the Coast Guard or a relief organization, so lending a hand is already above and beyond what is expected of them.
I'm afraid of demented knife-wielding escaped lunatic libertarian zombie mutants
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-09-03 02:57:01
September 03 2017 02:56 GMT
#172614
Why celebrate the best parts of our nation when you can feed you base the sweet narrative that keeps them cheering?
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
Danglars
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States12133 Posts
September 03 2017 03:18 GMT
#172615

When the petty hatred runs into reality.
Great armies come from happy zealots, and happy zealots come from California!
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KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States42967 Posts
September 03 2017 03:31 GMT
#172616
Of course. Here's us on the left all thinking he's a conman but someone who actually met him said he was perfectly charming. How could we have been so foolish.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32742 Posts
September 03 2017 03:35 GMT
#172617
https://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/5d8zop/serious_people_who_have_met_or_dealt_with_donald/

Unless all of these response are bots or paid shills, I think it's safe to say Trump is a polite, friendly, and reasonable person when you meet him outside of a business meeting, political rally, or deep in the White House.
I'm afraid of demented knife-wielding escaped lunatic libertarian zombie mutants
Introvert
Profile Joined April 2011
United States4825 Posts
September 03 2017 03:42 GMT
#172618
On September 03 2017 12:35 PhoenixVoid wrote:
https://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/5d8zop/serious_people_who_have_met_or_dealt_with_donald/

Unless all of these response are bots or paid shills, I think it's safe to say Trump is a polite, friendly, and reasonable person when you meet him outside of a business meeting, political rally, or deep in the White House.


I've read this before multiple places; he is also apparently a very good listener. idk, he really is a showman when campaigning, I guess. lol
"It is therefore only at the birth of a society that one can be completely logical in the laws. When you see a people enjoying this advantage, do not hasten to conclude that it is wise; think rather that it is young." -Alexis de Tocqueville
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-09-03 04:05:55
September 03 2017 03:54 GMT
#172619
Trump has charisma, no one claimed otherwise. He is also a racist, uncaring asshole. Talk is cheap, actions speak louder than selfies.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
TLnand
Profile Joined September 2017
4 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-09-03 11:51:09
September 03 2017 04:22 GMT
#172620
How the hell are people still fooled by how Donald and Ivanka operate? I put Ivanka here because she's skilled enough to play a similar game as her dad and people still keep giving her the benefit of the doubt for reasons I have no idea.

Its well documented that Donald is a good schmoozer who tells you what you want to hear. Telling people what they want to hear in the case of Donald Trump doesn't transfer into him doing what you want him to do.

Same deal with Ivanka. People still see her as some moderating force when she's basically complicit in everything and practically disappears when her dad does something that goes against her "beliefs".

We've got a president wailing at China for stealing manufacturing jobs, who then wails at Nordstrom for dropping his daughter's plagiarized fashion lineup that is made in China. If either of them gave a shit about US manufacturing, they'd have moved their products to US sourced materials and manufacturing but that takes effort and money to establish. There are countless examples of him saying one thing then doing another contradictory thing. Trump waving a rainbow flag around then pushing for a transgender ban out of nowhere is another recent example.

Other politicians in the world wish they were Donald Trump because idiots keep dropping the bar lower and lower for him to the point that a positive selfie is supposed to be enough for us to start trusting him.
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