EPTAbundant water across the entire coast? Water is pretty cool.
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
Abundant water across the entire coast? Water is pretty cool. | ||
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IyMoon
United States1249 Posts
On August 09 2017 02:02 Plansix wrote: Abundant water across the entire coast? Water is pretty cool. We have Disney Land and we steal enough water from other states to be fine. Also, way better beaches and weather (I live in LA) Edit: If LA gets nuked it's been fun lurking/barley posting on this thread with you all. | ||
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Sadist
United States7328 Posts
On August 09 2017 01:55 Plansix wrote: We can blame Obama, because that works so well. But in the end people have been kicking this can down the road for a long time. The difference today is they see the US as weak and unable to respond, which is true. Edit: Apparently they have like 60 of those warheads. We have arrived at the point we all dreaded. Not knowing all of the intricacies of what has developed, i feel like this is China's fault. Had China not propped up the regime for decades there could have been intervention long before it got to this point. They are just as vulnerable to getting nuked as the US if NK gets pissed about sanctions. It seems that Russia and China have felt this wasnt their issue but its goimg to be everyones problem if this lunatic tries something stupid. | ||
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LegalLord
United States13779 Posts
On August 09 2017 01:57 Mohdoo wrote: The *only* advantage East coast has over West coast living is North Korea. I don't think Portland would be nuked over Seattle or SF, so I've got that going for me, but shit. Well you're just kicking the can down the road a little until NK improves their missile range a bit more. That won't take long. I'd say Bush deserves a bit more flak than Obama over the NK issue, in that Bush had a much better negotiating position. Obama had to make do what a US whose overall influence in the world was waning, but Bush was not yet at that point. I can't say Obama did a phenomenal job with what he had, but it's hardly his fault that NK is able to do stuff now. | ||
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Sermokala
United States14220 Posts
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Simberto
Germany12086 Posts
On August 09 2017 02:09 Sermokala wrote: I'd say the midwest is best but to be fair we're one yellowstone eruption going off from being an ash waste. The whole world is one Yellowstone eruption from being an ash waste. | ||
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ZerOCoolSC2
9077 Posts
On August 09 2017 02:09 Sermokala wrote: I'd say the midwest is best but to be fair we're one yellowstone eruption going off from being an ash waste. Not necessarily. What volcano is in YNP From Wiki: Each of the three climactic eruptions released vast amounts of ash that blanketed much of central North America, falling many hundreds of miles away. The amount of ash and gases released into the atmosphere probably caused significant impacts to world weather patterns and led to the extinction of some species, primarily in North America.[67] It took 3 eruptions over a couple million years. I think we would survive eruption. | ||
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zlefin
United States7689 Posts
On August 09 2017 02:04 Sadist wrote: Not knowing all of the intricacies of what has developed, i feel like this is China's fault. Had China not propped up the regime for decades there could have been intervention long before it got to this point. They are just as vulnerable to getting nuked as the US if NK gets pissed about sanctions. It seems that Russia and China have felt this wasnt their issue but its goimg to be everyones problem if this lunatic tries something stupid. I don't think NK is gonig to nuke in anything other than self defense; i.e. if they have nothing left to lose anyways. it is china's fault in a certain very real sense; though the geopolitics that lead to it being that way are quite understandable. | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On August 09 2017 02:04 Sadist wrote: Not knowing all of the intricacies of what has developed, i feel like this is China's fault. Had China not propped up the regime for decades there could have been intervention long before it got to this point. They are just as vulnerable to getting nuked as the US if NK gets pissed about sanctions. It seems that Russia and China have felt this wasnt their issue but its goimg to be everyones problem if this lunatic tries something stupid. Welcome back to the cold war my friend. We thought we were done playing, but never really cleared all the pieces off the board. Now we get to live with the fear of nukes again. God help us if more countries start getting them. Edit: NK is not a rational actor. Wars have been started over the dumbest misunderstandings. And not every culture in the world has the US's fear of the bomb. We ingrained that one in ourselves. It is not a world wide view. | ||
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Sermokala
United States14220 Posts
On August 09 2017 02:10 Simberto wrote: The whole world is one Yellowstone eruption from being an ash waste. Naw most of the ash would be stuck between the two American mountain ranges until it hits the artic and freezes. Good luck feeding the world but the world should be liveable after a mega disaster like that. The east coast is in constant threat of tsunami ending them from a volcano in the islands breaking off part of its top into the ocean. Story of the day is that no where in america is really safe at all. | ||
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Acrofales
Spain18490 Posts
On August 09 2017 02:13 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote: Not necessarily. What volcano is in YNP? YNP IS a volcano. A supervolcano to be precise. And one that is due for eruption *now* (give or take a few thousand years). E: @Sermokala above me. La Palma sliding into the deeps and creating a super tsunami is a lot more speculative than Yellowstone exploding sooner or later. If you're worried about random tsunamis and earthquakes, definitely stay away from the west coast  | ||
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LegalLord
United States13779 Posts
On August 09 2017 02:04 Sadist wrote: Not knowing all of the intricacies of what has developed, i feel like this is China's fault. Had China not propped up the regime for decades there could have been intervention long before it got to this point. They are just as vulnerable to getting nuked as the US if NK gets pissed about sanctions. It seems that Russia and China have felt this wasnt their issue but its goimg to be everyones problem if this lunatic tries something stupid. That's not quite it. Both Russia and China are mature nuclear powers acutely aware of the dangers of the weapons they have and what would happen if they get into the wrong hands. They both want NK to give up their nukes, even if they're much more willing to have diplomatic ties with NK open than the US is. The problem is good old-fashioned semi-hostile diplomacy, in that the actors (US, NK, China, Russia) are not exactly all playing for the same team and each is right to be suspicious of every other one. | ||
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Sermokala
United States14220 Posts
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Slaughter
United States20255 Posts
On August 09 2017 00:55 farvacola wrote: Have you ever been to Detroit, and if not, do you think it'd make sense for me to comment on the safety of Copenhagen based purely on third-person data that mostly references the infamous ghetto list? Detroit has parts that are dangerous, that much is true, but "open civil war" hyperbole is simply unfounded. I say this as the son of the guy who signs off on literally every dead body found in Wayne County. Your the son of the Wayne county ME? But I don't know all those hipster art scene people are pretty dangerous ^_^ plus all that construction downtown can get really out of hand. | ||
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ticklishmusic
United States15977 Posts
On August 09 2017 02:15 LegalLord wrote: That's not quite it. Both Russia and China are mature nuclear powers acutely aware of the dangers of the weapons they have and what would happen if they get into the wrong hands. They both want NK to give up their nukes, even if they're much more willing to have diplomatic ties with NK open than the US is. The problem is good old-fashioned semi-hostile diplomacy, in that the actors (US, NK, China, Russia) are not exactly all playing for the same team and each is right to be suspicious of every other one. Seems to me Russia and China cared a little less when there were rogue nukes in their backyard as long as they weren't pointed at them. | ||
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ZerOCoolSC2
9077 Posts
On August 09 2017 02:15 Sermokala wrote: answered Check my edit above. Here's the link YNP. While it is a supervolcano because of the networks it has, I don't think we'll be getting one any time soon. While the US would probably starve before the rest of the world, we wouldn't end. | ||
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Yurie
12185 Posts
On August 09 2017 02:15 LegalLord wrote: That's not quite it. Both Russia and China are mature nuclear powers acutely aware of the dangers of the weapons they have and what would happen if they get into the wrong hands. They both want NK to give up their nukes, even if they're much more willing to have diplomatic ties with NK open than the US is. The problem is good old-fashioned semi-hostile diplomacy, in that the actors (US, NK, China, Russia) are not exactly all playing for the same team and each is right to be suspicious of every other one. That NK exists at all is a shared responsibility of China and the US. The US was taking over the entire country for SK, then China came in over the border and we ended up with the split we still have. Vietnam didn't get as much open support as Korea but the US weren't as aggressive there either. | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On August 09 2017 02:24 Yurie wrote: That NK exists at all is a shared responsibility of China and the US. The US was taking over the entire country for SK, then China came in over the border and we ended up with the split we still have. Vietnam didn't get as much open support as Korea but the US weren't as aggressive there either. That is some revisionist history. China and Soviets backed NK was the aggressor in that war and nearly won until the US got involved. China got involved when it became clear US backed SK was going to take over the entire country. | ||
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farvacola
United States18876 Posts
Having lived in both, I'd say they are fairly comparable so long as one properly compares the entire Detroit metropolitan area with Chicagoland, though I'd wager that the worst neighborhoods in Chicago are more dangerous than their Detroit equivalents given how much more of Detroit is abandoned outright instead of neglected. | ||
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Godwrath
Spain10168 Posts
On August 09 2017 02:14 Acrofales wrote: E: @Sermokala above me. La Palma sliding into the deeps and creating a super tsunami is a lot more speculative than Yellowstone exploding sooner or later. If you're worried about random tsunamis and earthquakes, definitely stay away from the west coast Awww c'mon, no need to piss on one of the weird things we take pride in Canary Islands. We are geologycally relevant! | ||
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