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On August 02 2017 07:23 ChristianS wrote:
I'm sure the 10D chess narrative is still alive somewhere. It's pretty much unfalsifiable, so there are surely defenses for our present situation. Maybe people think Trump is drawing his opponents into a big all-in bet on Russia collusion, when he's secretly been sitting on 100% proof of innocence the whole time. Then shortly before the next election he'll drop it and cruise through to re-election.
But yeah, it's gotten harder and harder to think he knows what he's doing.
I mean if you imagine him as trying to enrich himself as much as possible off of being president (and nothing else) he's not doing half bad.
I can imagine the Walton's, Rockefeller's, etc... looking at him like, "damn, he's figured this shit out. Can any of us be that absurdly ridiculous?".
What I get from the Trump administration is that any president can easily make hundreds of millions of dollars off of being president and there's nothing we could (or would want to do ) to stop them.
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On August 02 2017 17:07 GreenHorizons wrote:Show nested quote +On August 02 2017 07:23 ChristianS wrote:
I'm sure the 10D chess narrative is still alive somewhere. It's pretty much unfalsifiable, so there are surely defenses for our present situation. Maybe people think Trump is drawing his opponents into a big all-in bet on Russia collusion, when he's secretly been sitting on 100% proof of innocence the whole time. Then shortly before the next election he'll drop it and cruise through to re-election.
But yeah, it's gotten harder and harder to think he knows what he's doing. What I get from the Trump administration is that any president can easily make hundreds of millions of dollars off of being president and there's nothing we could (or would want to do ) to stop them.
What? No, literally nobody else could do this. Bush couldn't have pulled this off. No democrat could have pulled this off. It only works for Trump because of the unquestioning support of his retarded cultists.
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On August 02 2017 17:15 Six.Strings wrote:Show nested quote +On August 02 2017 17:07 GreenHorizons wrote:On August 02 2017 07:23 ChristianS wrote:
I'm sure the 10D chess narrative is still alive somewhere. It's pretty much unfalsifiable, so there are surely defenses for our present situation. Maybe people think Trump is drawing his opponents into a big all-in bet on Russia collusion, when he's secretly been sitting on 100% proof of innocence the whole time. Then shortly before the next election he'll drop it and cruise through to re-election.
But yeah, it's gotten harder and harder to think he knows what he's doing. What I get from the Trump administration is that any president can easily make hundreds of millions of dollars off of being president and there's nothing we could (or would want to do ) to stop them. What? No, literally nobody else could do this. Bush couldn't have pulled this off. No democrat could have pulled this off. It only works for Trump because of the unquestioning support of his retarded cultists.
So you think he'll be replaced by someone without cultists?
You realize more Republicans in Louisiana blamed Obama for Katrina than Bush right?
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I know that many Republicans would rather vote Putin than Blue, but that's not enough without a personal cult like Trump has. Nobody else is as good at riling up the rubes.
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On August 02 2017 17:15 Six.Strings wrote:Show nested quote +On August 02 2017 17:07 GreenHorizons wrote:On August 02 2017 07:23 ChristianS wrote:
I'm sure the 10D chess narrative is still alive somewhere. It's pretty much unfalsifiable, so there are surely defenses for our present situation. Maybe people think Trump is drawing his opponents into a big all-in bet on Russia collusion, when he's secretly been sitting on 100% proof of innocence the whole time. Then shortly before the next election he'll drop it and cruise through to re-election.
But yeah, it's gotten harder and harder to think he knows what he's doing. What I get from the Trump administration is that any president can easily make hundreds of millions of dollars off of being president and there's nothing we could (or would want to do ) to stop them. What? No, literally nobody else could do this. Bush couldn't have pulled this off. No democrat could have pulled this off. It only works for Trump because of the unquestioning support of his retarded cultists.
The Bush family made way more money than Trump and they're way more scary. The fact they're still viewed as acceptable people is scary in itself. They're involved in the dark lobbies of oil and weapons and don't care to start wars based on lies and even have an history of working with Hitler, somehow manage to have father and son elected.
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Trump is little more than the caricature that the Republicans have been building all these years come to life. It is not by some genius of persuasion or influence that he became president, but by the ability to self-fund a chaotic mess of campaign, promise everything the Republicans always have, and have a knack for drawing attention to oneself. It's as funny as it is sad that things went this way.
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On August 02 2017 11:33 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
Why, if the russia thing is a hoax, does he manage to take every step to look like a russian ally
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On August 02 2017 18:02 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:Why, if the russia thing is a hoax, does he manage to take every step to look like a russian ally
Well, if there was something far more nefarious you wanted to distract people from/manipulate them into supporting (manufacturing a cold war with an economy smaller than California, for instance) it's a great way to get bipartisan support.
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On August 02 2017 18:49 GreenHorizons wrote:Show nested quote +On August 02 2017 18:02 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:Why, if the russia thing is a hoax, does he manage to take every step to look like a russian ally Well, if there was something far more nefarious you wanted to distract people from/manipulate them into supporting (manufacturing a cold war with an economy smaller than California, for instance) it's a great way to get bipartisan support.
So according to you, Trump is maintaining a hoax that he colluded with Russia to get elected in order to manufacture support for a war with North Korea.
That makes perfect sense. Not.
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On August 02 2017 17:38 LegalLord wrote:
Trump is little more than the caricature that the Republicans have been building all these years come to life. It is not by some genius of persuasion or influence that he became president, but by the ability to self-fund a chaotic mess of campaign, promise everything the Republicans always have, and have a knack for drawing attention to oneself. It's as funny as it is sad that things went this way.
That's pretty much it.
You can't even blame voters really. Trump is also not a caricature of the republicans, it's what republicans have become for the most part. I said over and over again that being conservative is one (perfectly fine) thing, but being "republican" is something different. Of course there's some actual conservatives in the republican party, with (decent) conservative views, but overall the republican party is just a bunch of old farts that care more about catering to their lobbies and fucking everyone over who's not remotely rich.
Conservative != party over country. Republicans are a clown show, and they prove it over and over again. In fact, the last election race showed how uninformed and disconnected from reality republican politicians generally are.
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In other news, South Fl has one of the highest rents in the US right now a 1/1 private room, and entrance in a house go for $700-$1100 in alright - semi bad areas, and an actual 1/1 go for $1500 - $2200 in decent areas.
Secondly, people say climate change isn't real, but South Florida is already seeing it in action.
https://www.facebook.com/ashleylibradiaz91/videos/10209867686273586/ - Don't mind the girl, but overall, it's been raining a ton here since Tropical Storm Emily passed by - and many many parts of SoFLo are already sinking. Any other big cities you think is affected by this already? It doesn't seem like the government here cares too much about this, sadly.
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MA is having a housing crisis, since the cost of housing has been rising by 10% yearly with no signs of slowing. Wages are not. And no one wants to build mid range housing. It is either public housing or rich people homes that remain vacant as the buyers speculate on when cash in on the rising housing market. Luckily we are a grown up state and the government is stepping in to promote middle class housing.
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I love how each one of these idiots connected to Trump goes on cable TV to make themselves look like more of an idiot.
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Love it when officials refuse to spend the money given to them by elected officials in a unilateral effort to shrink the size of government. No chance that will end up getting someone hurt or killed.
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On August 02 2017 23:26 Plansix wrote:https://twitter.com/davisusan/status/892726655319461889Love it when officials refuse to spend the money given to them by elected officials in a unilateral effort to shrink the size of government. No chance that will end up getting someone hurt or killed.
I basically see it as a cultural tragedy created by poor societal mobility in rural and particularly "southern" areas. Every other country on Earth that liberated itself from a foreign power has come away from it with a perspective that taxation should always be limited and that more government is always a bad thing. It is understandable that a newly liberated people would be skeptical of government. But other countries that have a more natural and fluid societal backbone have been able to slowly filter out that kind of belief and create a functional government.
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On August 02 2017 22:06 m4ini wrote:Show nested quote +On August 02 2017 17:38 LegalLord wrote:
Trump is little more than the caricature that the Republicans have been building all these years come to life. It is not by some genius of persuasion or influence that he became president, but by the ability to self-fund a chaotic mess of campaign, promise everything the Republicans always have, and have a knack for drawing attention to oneself. It's as funny as it is sad that things went this way. That's pretty much it. You can't even blame voters really. Trump is also not a caricature of the republicans, it's what republicans have become for the most part. I said over and over again that being conservative is one (perfectly fine) thing, but being "republican" is something different. Of course there's some actual conservatives in the republican party, with (decent) conservative views, but overall the republican party is just a bunch of old farts that care more about catering to their lobbies and fucking everyone over who's not remotely rich. Conservative != party over country. Republicans are a clown show, and they prove it over and over again. In fact, the last election race showed how uninformed and disconnected from reality republican politicians generally are.
The only thing I disagree with you on, in this post, is that voters are blameless in this situation. While the Republican leadership deserves plenty of blame, I also think that the voters who put those Republicans (and Trump) in office share the responsibility. The voters never educated themselves.
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On August 02 2017 23:35 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:Show nested quote +On August 02 2017 22:06 m4ini wrote:On August 02 2017 17:38 LegalLord wrote:
Trump is little more than the caricature that the Republicans have been building all these years come to life. It is not by some genius of persuasion or influence that he became president, but by the ability to self-fund a chaotic mess of campaign, promise everything the Republicans always have, and have a knack for drawing attention to oneself. It's as funny as it is sad that things went this way. That's pretty much it. You can't even blame voters really. Trump is also not a caricature of the republicans, it's what republicans have become for the most part. I said over and over again that being conservative is one (perfectly fine) thing, but being "republican" is something different. Of course there's some actual conservatives in the republican party, with (decent) conservative views, but overall the republican party is just a bunch of old farts that care more about catering to their lobbies and fucking everyone over who's not remotely rich. Conservative != party over country. Republicans are a clown show, and they prove it over and over again. In fact, the last election race showed how uninformed and disconnected from reality republican politicians generally are. The only thing I disagree with you on, in this post, is that voters are blameless in this situation. While the Republican leadership deserves plenty of blame, I also think that the voters who put those Republicans (and Trump) in office share the responsibility. The voters never educated themselves.
You may as well blame janitors for being janitors or a technician for never being an engineer. These people are the people they are...because of the people they are. It is a somewhat inescapable reality that many people will never be any better than the people they become by just kind of going through the motions of life. Most people don't push themselves, try to grow or feel any amount of internal motivation to make the world a better place. The average human is really, really, reallllly deficient.
Note: I am not saying janitors or technicians or anyone like that should be looked down on for their careers. I am saying that the people who choose to be uninformed voters are simply wired that way.
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On August 02 2017 23:38 Mohdoo wrote:Show nested quote +On August 02 2017 23:35 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:On August 02 2017 22:06 m4ini wrote:On August 02 2017 17:38 LegalLord wrote:
Trump is little more than the caricature that the Republicans have been building all these years come to life. It is not by some genius of persuasion or influence that he became president, but by the ability to self-fund a chaotic mess of campaign, promise everything the Republicans always have, and have a knack for drawing attention to oneself. It's as funny as it is sad that things went this way. That's pretty much it. You can't even blame voters really. Trump is also not a caricature of the republicans, it's what republicans have become for the most part. I said over and over again that being conservative is one (perfectly fine) thing, but being "republican" is something different. Of course there's some actual conservatives in the republican party, with (decent) conservative views, but overall the republican party is just a bunch of old farts that care more about catering to their lobbies and fucking everyone over who's not remotely rich. Conservative != party over country. Republicans are a clown show, and they prove it over and over again. In fact, the last election race showed how uninformed and disconnected from reality republican politicians generally are. The only thing I disagree with you on, in this post, is that voters are blameless in this situation. While the Republican leadership deserves plenty of blame, I also think that the voters who put those Republicans (and Trump) in office share the responsibility. The voters never educated themselves. You may as well blame janitors for being janitors or a technician for never being an engineer. These people are the people they are...because of the people they are. It is a somewhat inescapable reality that many people will never be any better than the people they become by just kind of going through the motions of life. Most people don't push themselves, try to grow or feel any amount of internal motivation to make the world a better place. The average human is really, really, reallllly deficient.
This is a really negative view of humanity that I constantly try to avoid. This is part of ongoing US narrative about drive and achievement being a virtue, while being content is considered amoral. We spend a lot of time degrading the quite dignity of going to work every day and simply providing for yourself and family. And being satisfied with that existence.
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