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m4ini
Profile Joined February 2014
4215 Posts
July 28 2017 05:37 GMT
#164641
Man that'll be a great day for the dear leader. First the "you don't get to lift sanctions bitch", now he has to sell this.
On track to MA1950A.
TheTenthDoc
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9561 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-07-28 05:42:51
July 28 2017 05:40 GMT
#164642
Very glad McCain isn't enough of a "fuck you liberals" to vote yes to spite the liberal media saying he failed the country with the motion to proceed/yes vote on one of the iterations.

I can't help but think there's a 30% chance this bill somehow returns. It's like Hayden Panettiere in Heroes.
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44388 Posts
July 28 2017 05:40 GMT
#164643
WOOOOOO!!!
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
crms
Profile Joined February 2010
United States11933 Posts
July 28 2017 05:41 GMT
#164644
Wow. What an absolutely intense evening.
http://i.imgur.com/fAUOr2c.png | Fighting games are great
CorsairHero
Profile Joined December 2008
Canada9491 Posts
July 28 2017 05:41 GMT
#164645
"we worked really hard" ha ha
© Current year.
ShloobeR
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Korea (South)3809 Posts
July 28 2017 05:42 GMT
#164646
the endless amount of time spent trying to reach consensus
: o )
TheTenthDoc
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9561 Posts
July 28 2017 05:43 GMT
#164647
Trump gonna be maaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaad
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44388 Posts
July 28 2017 05:45 GMT
#164648
Here's the summary:

So at 10 PM, McConnell and the other Republicans announced that in 2 hours (at midnight, about an hour and a half ago) there was going to be a two-part process towards replacing the ACA with a Skinny Repeal. Everyone started scrambling, since basically no time was given. It was livestreamed on CNN and C-SPAN.

Part 1: The standard motion to "send back to committee" needs to take place first. In other words, if this motion passes via a vote, then the Republicans don't get to Part 2 at all, and the ACA lives on. If this motion fails, then the Republicans get to have their key vote to attempt to pass the Skinny Repeal.
Verdict: The motion to stop the process failed to pass, with 48 Yes's to 52 No's. That's bad for Americans and for the ACA and Democrats. This allows the second part to occur...

Part 2: The motion to pass the Skinny Repeal. I'm not sure why any Republicans would vote No both times (as the second No would basically contradict their first round No), but for some reason, Republicans McCain, Collins, and Murkowski are a NO with this final vote. McCain happened to be the clutch here.
Verdict: This motion was defeated with 49 Yes's and 51 No's!

Obamacare stays alive for now, thanks to Democrats, Independents, and 3 Republicans. And fuck you and your salty bitching and moaning and trying to screw millions of Americans out of healthcare, Mitch McConnell.

"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
rageprotosscheesy
Profile Joined June 2017
36 Posts
July 28 2017 05:47 GMT
#164649
You know, they'd probably be able to pass this bill if Trump didn't piss all over John McCain and threaten the entire state of Alaska. Why the fuck would you threaten a senator who crushed her opposition via a write in campaign? She aren't scared of you lmao.
IyMoon
Profile Joined April 2016
United States1249 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-07-28 05:52:54
July 28 2017 05:50 GMT
#164650
edit: deleting because it added nothing
Something witty
TheTenthDoc
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9561 Posts
July 28 2017 05:51 GMT
#164651
Quoth the book of Trump:

Yea, and the people waited, breath baited, to see what poetic verbiage would flow forth from his tiny hands and phone when, like Caeser, he was most foully betrayed by his trusted compatriots despite his best efforts at showing them what for with insults and opaque coercion.
Dromar
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States2145 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-07-28 05:53:55
July 28 2017 05:52 GMT
#164652
Man I hate Mitch McConnell. Everything he says and does is passive aggressive, hypocritical bullshit.

edit: I think Schumer's words were much more classy and reasonable.
Adreme
Profile Joined June 2011
United States5574 Posts
July 28 2017 05:52 GMT
#164653
Now I know I have a favorite but one of those speeches was CLEARLY better than the other and I just cant see how McConnells speech could have compare.
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44388 Posts
July 28 2017 05:53 GMT
#164654
Really nice speech afterwards by Chuck Schumer. Considering how bitter Mitch McConnell was, it was very big of Schumer to extend a lifeline to the Republicans.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
NewSunshine
Profile Joined July 2011
United States5938 Posts
July 28 2017 05:54 GMT
#164655
I would call McConnell a waste of space, but that would be an insult to wastes of space everywhere.
"If you find yourself feeling lost, take pride in the accuracy of your feelings." - Night Vale
Amui
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada10567 Posts
July 28 2017 05:55 GMT
#164656
I can't wait for Trump's tweets in the morning. It is going to be an absolute goldmine of salt and blame.
Porouscloud - NA LoL
Lmui
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada6213 Posts
July 28 2017 05:57 GMT
#164657
Good to see that McCain was reasonable about it, and essentially killed the bill. Good on him, he literally has nothing to worry about now other than himself, and his legacy, so I hope he sticks to his guns.

In other news:

https://arstechnica.com/science/2017/07/as-dominance-of-launch-market-looms-spacex-now-valued-at-21-billion/?comments=1

SpaceX is now valued at 21 billion, and their market share of commercial launches has pretty much crowded out any American competition in the next year. I don't expect to see this trend reversing any time soon. The next milestone for them is Falcon Heavy in November, and depending on if they can pull that off, they'll have the rest of the market cornered on pricing.

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NewSunshine
Profile Joined July 2011
United States5938 Posts
July 28 2017 05:57 GMT
#164658
On July 28 2017 14:55 Amui wrote:
I can't wait for Trump's tweets in the morning. It is going to be an absolute goldmine of salt and blame.

I'm betting it'll be a storm of loosely reworded paraphrasings of previous tweets involving the words Democrats, obstruction, sad, and MAGA.
"If you find yourself feeling lost, take pride in the accuracy of your feelings." - Night Vale
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States23251 Posts
July 28 2017 05:58 GMT
#164659
Lol McCain is a crotchety old f'er but not a bad way to get some lols (other than the whole dangling millions of Americans over a precipice of bankruptcy, disrepair, and/or death).

I have to say I'm impressed at/thankful for just how ineffectual Republicans have proven to be to date. They found a way to avoid the 60 vote hurdle giving them, for all practical purposes, a larger margin of error than Democrats had for the ACA and failed spectacularly.

Some responsible country should probably replace our government with one capable and competent to do what it is they get elected to do and say they are doing.
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44388 Posts
July 28 2017 06:00 GMT
#164660
On July 28 2017 14:57 NewSunshine wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 28 2017 14:55 Amui wrote:
I can't wait for Trump's tweets in the morning. It is going to be an absolute goldmine of salt and blame.

I'm betting it'll be a storm of loosely reworded paraphrasings of previous tweets involving the words Democrats, obstruction, sad, and MAGA.


I, too, am looking forward to seeing Trump's inevitable Twitter meltdown.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
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