EPTOn July 28 2017 04:42 Karis Vas Ryaar wrote:
Priebus being fired before Sessions would be hilarious (though it may end up being a package deal since Preibus is probably one of Sessions' biggest advocates).
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TheTenthDoc
United States9561 Posts
Priebus being fired before Sessions would be hilarious (though it may end up being a package deal since Preibus is probably one of Sessions' biggest advocates). | ||
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Gorsameth
Netherlands22462 Posts
On July 28 2017 05:07 WolfintheSheep wrote: I mean, people are joking about this, but the government controlling what is true or false is basically the step toward authoritarianism. And 45% of Republican voters are in favour of that, and Democrat voters may be close behind (if they view this as an opportunity to shut down Fox News, Breitbart, Inforwars, etc.). Fortunately your Supreme Court would still be the check and balance to eviscerate any attempt at the government shutting down the free press. Indeed, and those of us joking here are well aware of that. But if you take individual pieces of authoritarian policies and propose them you get a frighting amount of people agreeing, from either side. | ||
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Nevuk
United States16280 Posts
But contrary to speculation that the president wants Priebus out, a source close to him told Axios that Trump “feels nothing but sympathy at this point for Reince, whose current state reminds him of the neglected puppies in the viral Sarah McLachlan videos for the Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals.” www.axios.com | ||
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Mohdoo
United States15743 Posts
On July 28 2017 05:15 TheTenthDoc wrote: Priebus being fired before Sessions would be hilarious (though it may end up being a package deal since Preibus is probably one of Sessions' biggest advocates). I imagine Priebus is the one who is always letting Trump know what kinds of things would and would not result in wide scale establishment disappointment. I wonder if Priebus has been the only thing keeping Sessions afloat. | ||
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Tachion
Canada8573 Posts
If Trump doesn't trust you to be loyal, then you're in trouble. | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On July 28 2017 05:07 WolfintheSheep wrote: I mean, people are joking about this, but the government controlling what is true or false is basically the step toward authoritarianism. And 45% of Republican voters are in favour of that, and Democrat voters may be close behind (if they view this as an opportunity to shut down Fox News, Breitbart, Inforwars, etc.). Fortunately your Supreme Court would still be the check and balance to eviscerate any attempt at the government shutting down the free press. The problem is that people take the “shutting down” comment and see it as a full assault on the free press(it is, just to be clear). But lets take a step back and ask what people really want? What are they saying by asking the government to slap down these networks They want the “biased”, entertainment news to stop. They want to be informed, not mislead. So what would likely support based on the poll, a return to a more active FCC and regulated media companies? Maybe put back in the regulations that prevented the same group from owning several networks? Or a return of fairness doctrine? And before people say “Who makes the decision on what is fair?” Well the government did before and the free press functioned just fine(also it didn’t apply to news papers). That was a great era of news broadcasters. What is pretty clear from this poll is that the public is very tired of wading through the garbage just to be informed. They do not want the job any more. | ||
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Nevuk
United States16280 Posts
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m4ini
4215 Posts
On July 28 2017 05:26 Tachion wrote: https://twitter.com/PhilipRucker/status/890547099443625984 If Trump doesn't trust you to be loyal, then you're in trouble. I recall vividly that some people here were arguing that Trump always stands by his people. | ||
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Wulfey_LA
932 Posts
On July 28 2017 05:15 TheTenthDoc wrote: Priebus being fired before Sessions would be hilarious (though it may end up being a package deal since Preibus is probably one of Sessions' biggest advocates). More cowardice from Trump. He literally got famous play acting that he fired people on the Apprentice, but all the firings were written by the reality show writers (yes, it is all scripted)**. DJT can't fire anyone in real life and instead sends out his toadies and/or his own subtweets to try and shame people into resigning. Good on Sessions and Preibus for thus far sticking around and forcing Trump's hand here. ** http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/donald-trump-clay-aiken-apprentice_us_5965370ae4b09b587d6307b4 | ||
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Karis Vas Ryaar
United States4396 Posts
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Gorsameth
Netherlands22462 Posts
On July 28 2017 05:32 Plansix wrote: The problem is that people take the “shutting down” comment and see it as a full assault on the free press(it is, just to be clear). But lets take a step back and ask what people really want? What are they saying by asking the government to slap down these networks They want the “biased”, entertainment news to stop. They want to be informed, not mislead. So what would likely support based on the poll, a return to a more active FCC and regulated media companies? Maybe put back in the regulations that prevented the same group from owning several networks? Or a return of fairness doctrine? And before people say “Who makes the decision on what is fair?” Well the government did before and the free press functioned just fine(also it didn’t apply to news papers). That was a great era of news broadcasters. What is pretty clear from this poll is that the public is very tired of wading through the garbage just to be informed. They do not want the job any more. You assuming thinking normal people when you say its not about shutting down the other side. Normal thinking people dont result in Trump. I would bet atleast half of that 45% wants to shut down CNN and the NYT | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On July 28 2017 05:43 Gorsameth wrote: You assuming thinking normal people when you say its not about shutting down the other side. Normal thinking people dont result in Trump. I would bet atleast half of that 45% wants to shut down CNN and the NYT I think there is a lot more than just Trump and shutting down the other side behind those results. That might be the knee jerk response. But people are really upset with how the modern media landscape and news coverage. And it spans all spectrums. My impression of peoples feelings about the news is that they find it all exhausting, but don’t feel there are any good options. | ||
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TheTenthDoc
United States9561 Posts
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Mohdoo
United States15743 Posts
On July 28 2017 05:51 TheTenthDoc wrote: There's probably some significant overlap with the 50% of Republicans who believe he won the popular vote. I feel like it would be worth seeing how many democrats think he won the popular vote. | ||
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zlefin
United States7689 Posts
hmm, I wonder if it's the case that the more polls are used and talked about, the less useful they become as a tool for understanding. | ||
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TheTenthDoc
United States9561 Posts
On July 28 2017 05:52 Mohdoo wrote: I feel like it would be worth seeing how many democrats think he won the popular vote. It was 7% of Democrats and 24% of independents. | ||
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{CC}StealthBlue
United States41117 Posts
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hunts
United States2113 Posts
On July 28 2017 05:53 {CC}StealthBlue wrote: https://twitter.com/TopherSpiro/status/890673293568516096 Jesus that's just scary and disgusting. Let's hope there are enough republican senators with a backbone and some semblance of a brain, although I'm not so sure that there are many with either. | ||
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TheTenthDoc
United States9561 Posts
If McCain votes for this after a speech about the need to return to Congressional norms...we will have gone past the looking glass and back again into another looking glass that was only there because the first one got shot with a rocket launcher. | ||
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NewSunshine
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