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FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-02-13 03:18:03
February 13 2017 00:41 GMT
#137041
Stephen Miller, the presidents senior advisor (at age 32?) just said this

The end result of this, though, is that our opponents, the media, and the whole world will soon see, as we begin to take further actions, that the powers of the president to protect our country are very substantial, and will not be questioned.


That's a nightmarish quote if I've ever seen one.

source
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FreakyDroid
Profile Joined July 2012
Macedonia2616 Posts
February 13 2017 00:48 GMT
#137042
I realize this is a serious topic and since I couldn't see any rule about making a harmless joke, so I hope I dont break any rules, but have you guys seen the videos with messages to Trump by other countries, the titles of the videos are usually "a country" Second, so that would be for instance Germany Second, France second etc. I just watched a bunch of them and they are hilarious.
Smile, tomorrow will be worse
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-02-13 00:52:42
February 13 2017 00:51 GMT
#137043
That one has been making the rounds. And it isn't even the worst part, because he straight up says the judicial branch is to powerful and "unchecked".

I love the Trump administrations constant bitching about the press, like they give a fuck. Or the executive branch has any power to stop them from writing whatever they want. There are reporters who live for this type of administration and are more than happy to fight every single day.

On February 13 2017 09:48 FreakyDroid wrote:
I realize this is a serious topic and since I couldn't see any rule about making a harmless joke, so I hope I dont break any rules, but have you guys seen the videos with messages to Trump by other countries, the titles of the videos are usually "a country" Second, so that would be for instance Germany Second, France second etc. I just watched a bunch of them and they are hilarious.

I have watched 4 of those are they are all extremely good. Top tier stuff.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20255 Posts
February 13 2017 01:12 GMT
#137044
It's actually kind of amusing watch Trump getting progressively more irritated at how difficult this "governing thing" is.

I also get the vibe that after the luster of it being the presidency Trump wI'll be in a "bored now" started and just let staffed run shit (sounds like he struggles to maintain focus thru an entire day).

Really would be comical if he wasn't OUR president.
Never Knows Best.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-02-13 01:37:47
February 13 2017 01:37 GMT
#137045
The BBC has the best break down of this, where they quote Miller saying

Stephen Miller told US media the court ruling was a "judicial usurpation of power" and that "the president's powers here are beyond question".

The court rejected Mr Trump's attempt to reinstate the ban on Thursday.
His executive order barred citizens from seven mainly Muslim countries from entering the US.
The ban caused chaos at US airports and sparked protests across the country.
Several lawsuits have been filed against the ban, and a federal judge has issued a temporary nationwide block on the travel ban. Mr Trump has said he may fight the case in the courts, but could also consider issuing a new executive order.

Speaking on Fox News Sunday, Mr Miller accused the 9th US Circuit Court of Appeals, which upheld the block on Mr Trump's order, of "overreaching".
He also told ABC's This Week: "We have equal branches of government in this country. The judiciary is not supreme."


And then go into how the Constitution works 101.

Under the US system of checks and balances, courts can declare laws, or acts by the president, unconstitutional.

The US government has argued that the president is best placed to make decisions about national security, and that the ban does not discriminate against Muslims.
But upholding the suspension last week, the three appeals court three judges said that the government had provided "no evidence that any foreigner from the countries named in the order" had carried out a terrorist attack on US soil.

[image loading]


With this simple graphic, the White House could avoid these terrible quotes attacking the judicial branch.

Source
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
February 13 2017 01:43 GMT
#137046
they are rallying the base. eroding the political legitimacy of the judiciary and increase the clusterfuck index on this whole mess just a bit more.

We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
February 13 2017 01:45 GMT
#137047
This is the interview where the quote is from.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qv-kVYdjzIk

Just watching Miller talk gives me the creeps, what a dead brainwashed look.

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Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-02-13 01:59:50
February 13 2017 01:56 GMT
#137048
On February 13 2017 09:48 FreakyDroid wrote:
I realize this is a serious topic and since I couldn't see any rule about making a harmless joke, so I hope I dont break any rules, but have you guys seen the videos with messages to Trump by other countries, the titles of the videos are usually "a country" Second, so that would be for instance Germany Second, France second etc. I just watched a bunch of them and they are hilarious.

I've watched a couple and while the Netherlands one made me laugh really badly the later ones didn't really feel all that good.

in case it wasn't known, here's the official (?) page that has them all:
http://everysecondcounts.eu/

(let's just hope I didn't miss this being posted some pages ago)

lol, there's one for Iran?
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
February 13 2017 03:06 GMT
#137049
On February 13 2017 09:41 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
Stephen Miller, the presidents senior advisor (at age 32?) just said this

Show nested quote +
The end result of this, though, is that our opponents, the media, and the whole world will soon see, as we begin to take further actions, that the powers of the president to protect our country are very substantial, and will not be questioned.


That's a nightmarish quote if I've ever seen one.

http://shareblue.com/in-despotic-declaration-trump-senior-advisor-says-trumps-power-will-not-be-questioned/


While it is frightening, Shareblue is almost worst than Brietbart for a source.
FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-02-13 03:17:25
February 13 2017 03:17 GMT
#137050
On February 13 2017 12:06 Nevuk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2017 09:41 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
Stephen Miller, the presidents senior advisor (at age 32?) just said this

The end result of this, though, is that our opponents, the media, and the whole world will soon see, as we begin to take further actions, that the powers of the president to protect our country are very substantial, and will not be questioned.


That's a nightmarish quote if I've ever seen one.

http://shareblue.com/in-despotic-declaration-trump-senior-advisor-says-trumps-power-will-not-be-questioned/


While it is frightening, Shareblue is almost worst than Brietbart for a source.

Yeah didn't realise that, replaced it with a timestamped youtube of the quote
Neosteel Enthusiast
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
February 13 2017 03:32 GMT
#137051
Holy fuck. Foreign Intel wet dream:

"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
BlueBird.
Profile Joined August 2008
United States3890 Posts
February 13 2017 04:09 GMT
#137052
On February 13 2017 12:32 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
Holy fuck. Foreign Intel wet dream:

https://twitter.com/prchovanec/status/830917179218468869


But come on this is a private club. It's not like its a personal email server or something. People are reading too much into this. Only trumps best friends are there there is no way that this would ruin Trump's vital element of surprise.
Currently Playing: Android Netrunner, Gwent, Gloomhaven, Board Games
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
February 13 2017 04:10 GMT
#137053
To be fair, I think foreign intel guys also know that what he says doesn't matter in the first place
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Leporello
Profile Joined January 2011
United States2845 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-02-13 04:43:45
February 13 2017 04:40 GMT
#137054
What is this with Flynn, example #205 that Trump is beholden to Russian influences?
I mean, is there any doubt at this point? Can we really not just end the facade? He might as well plant a sickle and hammer on the White House lawn.

Paul Manafort.
Trump praising Putin's "85% approval" and giving America other wonderful pieces of cliche Russian propaganda regularly.
Rex Tillerson.
Trump's only requested change in the RNC platform being too soften our defense of Ukraine (seriously, how was that not constantly talked about?)
And many other things that I just don't have time to list, and now Michael Flynn.
Oh, what's another coincidence at this point?

Sigh. SMH.
Big water
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
February 13 2017 04:46 GMT
#137055
But wait it gets even better:

"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-02-13 05:28:17
February 13 2017 05:27 GMT
#137056
flynn lost his mind over muslims. he is like a crusader.

and in this analogy hillary is the empress irene doukaina
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
February 13 2017 05:34 GMT
#137057
How is Flynn a real person? How are you that poorly educated and a general? I was a high school fucking history teacher and I taught 10th graders that would know that.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United States13779 Posts
February 13 2017 06:48 GMT
#137058
Flynn seems... mentally unstable. I don't care to comment on his political leanings, I can just see he's insane.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
Karis Vas Ryaar
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States4396 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-02-13 07:55:30
February 13 2017 07:45 GMT
#137059
Brown asking for FEMA assistance for flooding and mudslides in Northern California. Up to 188k people evacuated.

also Oroville dam made it to BBC. still below NK missile test though.

must refrain from joke about state of Jefferson and northern California wanting small government.

hopefully we don't have a full dam collapse or things could get ugly.


http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-38952847
"I'm not agreeing with a lot of Virus's decisions but they are working" Tasteless. Ipl4 Losers Bracket Virus 2-1 Maru
Biff The Understudy
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
France8138 Posts
February 13 2017 09:04 GMT
#137060
I know some of you don't like Oliver but he is making some really frightening points today. The segment about Trump retweeting badly digested Fox News bs ten minutes after it aired or praising Infowars are quite terrifying.



America, what hast thou done?
The fellow who is out to burn things up is the counterpart of the fool who thinks he can save the world. The world needs neither to be burned up nor to be saved. The world is, we are. Transients, if we buck it; here to stay if we accept it. ~H.Miller
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