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zlefin
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Plansix
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ticklishmusic
United States15977 Posts
On February 11 2017 08:48 TheTenthDoc wrote: So, if you believe CNN (and their sources), some of the Steele dossier conversations did happen in the time and place described in the dossier. Wonder if that includes the person who posted that asinine tweet of their passport (doesn't look like it sadly). One thing's for sure: I suspect this will get the same drip, drip, leak, leak treatment of the emails. I wish the Flynn stuff was getting that same treatment, though. Gotta love the Spicer response: Reached for comment this afternoon, White House Press Secretary Sean Spicer said, "We continue to be disgusted by CNN's fake news reporting." Spicer later called back and said, "This is more fake news. It is about time CNN focused on the success the President has had bringing back jobs, protecting the nation, and strengthening relationships with Japan and other nations. The President won the election because of his vision and message for the nation." IDK, the writer is 2 for 2. He called the Rosneft stake being sold (jesus, you could have made a lot of money on that somehow) plus this other stuff was confirmed. Looking pretty good so far. | ||
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GreenHorizons
United States23246 Posts
EDIT: Something I noticed about Milo in watching some clips, he's kind of a coward. He takes shots at practically everyone except he turns into a big pussy cat when it comes to the Catholic church and Creationism (unless it's Islamic creationism). | ||
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biology]major
United States2253 Posts
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WolfintheSheep
Canada14127 Posts
On February 11 2017 09:20 GreenHorizons wrote: This will probably surprise a lot of people, but for all the shit Milo catches here and everywhere else, he's probably doing more to shift Republicans to the left than the entire democratic party combined. Par for the course. People generally don't shift their views because the other side offers sunshine and rainbows, they shift when the people representing them are being shit. | ||
KwarK
United States42772 Posts
On February 11 2017 09:28 biology]major wrote: he also converts a lot of moderate liberals to shift the other way too, because the riots and attempts to silence him makes the left look bad. Goes both ways. I dunno. I get as pissed off as anyone when I get told that I'm a fascist for being opposed to violence but I'm not about to switch sides based upon a shitty messenger claiming to agree with me. It's like when some African American idiot says "kill all whites" at a BLM rally, I think a lot less of that individual but I don't change my overall stance that BLM air some legitimate grievances. | ||
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zlefin
United States7689 Posts
On February 11 2017 09:28 biology]major wrote: he also converts a lot of moderate liberals to shift the other way too, because the riots and attempts to silence him makes the left look bad. Goes both ways. mostly it just causes moderate idiots to shift away from one end or the other by overattributing the actions of a few highly partisan idiots to the entire side. | ||
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Simberto
Germany11519 Posts
On February 11 2017 09:16 ticklishmusic wrote: Gotta love the Spicer response: IDK, the writer is 2 for 2. He called the Rosneft stake being sold (jesus, you could have made a lot of money on that somehow) plus this other stuff was confirmed. Looking pretty good so far. I am still not sure whether this stuff is scary or sad. It is some kind of weird fascist government monopoly on truth, but it just seems to be so incompetent and bad that i can't believe anyone falls for it. And then i remember that Trump got elected. | ||
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Toadesstern
Germany16350 Posts
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On February 11 2017 09:55 Simberto wrote: I am still not sure whether this stuff is scary or sad. It is some kind of weird fascist government monopoly on truth, but it just seems to be so incompetent and bad that i can't believe anyone falls for it. And then i remember that Trump got elected. George Orwell has some things to say about debating Nazis and how much they love facts. Its pretty terrifying. | ||
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biology]major
United States2253 Posts
On February 11 2017 09:55 Simberto wrote: I am still not sure whether this stuff is scary or sad. It is some kind of weird fascist government monopoly on truth, but it just seems to be so incompetent and bad that i can't believe anyone falls for it. And then i remember that Trump got elected. I don't take Trump's word seriously anymore after his 2 weeks in office with multiple false statements. Just following his actions atm. I imagine something similar is happening to other people who voted for Trump( I hope). I am well aware of the media bias, but this type of over exaggeration by using terms like 'fake news' loosely, is similar to dems being trigger happy with the -ists and -isms. | ||
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LegalLord
United Kingdom13775 Posts
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biology]major
United States2253 Posts
On February 11 2017 10:22 LegalLord wrote: If I have to be honest, the past three weeks make me think that Trump is every bit as dangerous as his critics suggest. Not much more to say, he is becoming more and more delusional and it's only been three weeks. I don't think it is good for his mental health, he might not be able to handle the bureaucracy. When you work as a business man for 45-50 years and your employees are working with you for a single purpose, and then transitioning to the deceit and dogma infested politics of the capitol, with no experience in the 'game', it might not end well. I think he can make it work because in real life he seems like a really likeable dude, but he is also easily taken advantage of so only time will tell. It's not an exaggeration when I say this the result of HRC being shit, and the dems not having anyone else reasonable to replace her with, so they just were forced to rally behind her. There was no one else in the mainstream mold, besides Joe Biden. I hope he does well though and can keep sane for next 4 years. | ||
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FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Netherlands30548 Posts
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FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Netherlands30548 Posts
On February 11 2017 10:30 biology]major wrote: I don't think it is good for his mental health, he might not be able to handle the bureaucracy. When you work as a business man for 45-50 years and your employees are working with you for a single purpose, and then transitioning to the deceit and dogma infested politics of the capitol, with no experience in the 'game', it might not end well. I think he can make it work because in real life he seems like a really likeable dude, but he is also easily taken advantage of so only time will tell. What are his likable qualities because I'm having a hard time here. | ||
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zlefin
United States7689 Posts
On February 11 2017 10:30 biology]major wrote: I don't think it is good for his mental health, he might not be able to handle the bureaucracy. When you work as a business man for 45-50 years and your employees are working with you for a single purpose, and then transitioning to the deceit and dogma infested politics of the capitol, with no experience in the 'game', it might not end well. I think he can make it work because in real life he seems like a really likeable dude, but he is also easily taken advantage of so only time will tell. It's not an exaggeration when I say this the result of HRC being shit, and the dems not having anyone else reasonable to replace her with, so they just were forced to rally behind her. There was no one else in the mainstream mold, besides Joe Biden. I hope he does well though and can keep sane for next 4 years. HRC isn't shit. that's just an inaccuracy endlessly propagated, or more precisely, a result of poor estimation. the dems weren't forced to rally behind her, most of them were pretty happy with her (or at least found her decent enough). a few aren't, but most are. the hillary hate is mostly from republicans. it's not an exaggeration so much as an inaccuracy. odd to call it a result, when there's far more apropos things to target. | ||
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biology]major
United States2253 Posts
On February 11 2017 10:37 zlefin wrote: HRC isn't shit. that's just an inaccuracy endlessly propagated, or more precisely, a result of poor estimation. the dems weren't forced to rally behind her, most of them were pretty happy with her. a few aren't, but most are. the hillary hate is mostly from republicans. it's not an exaggeration so much as an inaccuracy. How is losing 3 blue states that were supposed to be a dem fortress, to a dude who grabs people by the pussy, while spending twice the amount of money, an indication of anything other than her being absolute shit? Keep in mind she lost a lot of Obama voters.. | ||
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Amui
Canada10567 Posts
On February 11 2017 10:30 biology]major wrote: I don't think it is good for his mental health, he might not be able to handle the bureaucracy. When you work as a business man for 45-50 years and your employees are working with you for a single purpose, and then transitioning to the deceit and dogma infested politics of the capitol, with no experience in the 'game', it might not end well. I think he can make it work because in real life he seems like a really likeable dude, but he is also easily taken advantage of so only time will tell. It's not an exaggeration when I say this the result of HRC being shit, and the dems not having anyone else reasonable to replace her with, so they just were forced to rally behind her. There was no one else in the mainstream mold, besides Joe Biden. I hope he does well though and can keep sane for next 4 years. Honestly, I think it's pretty much the first time in his life where he tells people to do something, other people shut him down, and there's hardly anything he can do about it. | ||
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kwizach
3658 Posts
On February 11 2017 10:39 biology]major wrote: How is losing 3 blue states that were supposed to be a dem fortress, to a dude who grabs people by the pussy, while spending twice the amount of money, an indication of anything other than her being absolute shit? Keep in mind she lost a lot of Obama voters.. His first sentence answers your question. | ||
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