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OuchyDathurts
Profile Joined September 2010
United States4588 Posts
January 29 2017 03:21 GMT
#133701
For those wondering how Trump will package this. Since we know he snorts nothing but pure uncut Fox and Breitbart here is your answer!

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TheTenthDoc
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9561 Posts
January 29 2017 03:24 GMT
#133702
On January 29 2017 10:53 Jockmcplop wrote:
http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/trump-sets-5-year-lifetime-lobbying-ban-officials-n713631

And the good.
Show nested quote +
WASHINGTON — President Donald Trump acted Saturday to fulfill a key portion of his pledge to "drain the swamp" in Washington, banning administration officials from ever lobbying the U.S. on behalf of a foreign government and imposing a separate five-year ban on other lobbying.

Administration officials described the bans as historic in scope. But it was not immediately clear how either one would be enforced.

Trump has said individuals who want to aid him in his quest to "Make America Great Again" should focus on the jobs they will be doing to help the American people, and not thinking about the future income they could rake in by peddling their influence after serving in government.


I still find it hilarious he passed this policy while putting several lobbyists from the past five years in his administration.
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15686 Posts
January 29 2017 03:33 GMT
#133703
On January 29 2017 12:21 OuchyDathurts wrote:
For those wondering how Trump will package this. Since we know he snorts nothing but pure uncut Fox and Breitbart here is your answer!

https://twitter.com/LouDobbs/status/825538668643438593


Its almost like he's trying to sabotage Trump by baiting him into going too far lol
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-01-29 04:26:14
January 29 2017 04:19 GMT
#133704
So Steve Bannon overruled the State Department to include Green Card holders to be included in the travel ban.
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15686 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-01-29 04:29:21
January 29 2017 04:29 GMT
#133705
On January 29 2017 13:19 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
So Steve Bannon overruled the State Department to include Green Card holders to be included in the travel ban.

Steve Bannon is this administration's version of Cheney. Every dipshit Republican president needs an evil puppeteer.
PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32740 Posts
January 29 2017 04:37 GMT
#133706
On January 29 2017 13:19 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
So Steve Bannon overruled the State Department to include Green Card holders to be included in the travel ban.

Bannon having this much authority is concerning.
I'm afraid of demented knife-wielding escaped lunatic libertarian zombie mutants
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States23221 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-01-29 04:45:07
January 29 2017 04:40 GMT
#133707
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2017 12:21 OuchyDathurts wrote:
For those wondering how Trump will package this. Since we know he snorts nothing but pure uncut Fox and Breitbart here is your answer!

https://twitter.com/LouDobbs/status/825538668643438593



Show nested quote +
On January 29 2017 11:09 farvacola wrote:
Judge Ann Donnelly issued the stay from what I gathered, she's a G.


"Activist Judge Ann Donnelly" In Trump's incoming tweet I'd imagine. But yes, someone needs to make a thug life meme ASAP.


Hah, wouldn't be surprised if Trump just RT'd that.
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States23221 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-01-29 04:44:43
January 29 2017 04:40 GMT
#133708
double oops
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
pmh
Profile Joined March 2016
1352 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-01-29 04:46:21
January 29 2017 04:44 GMT
#133709
Cant the administration appeal this ruling and take it all the way to the supreme court if needed? It seems hard to believe that a local judge can have this much influence over what the government can and cant do.
That would be something,halve of trumps executive orders being undone by local justices,it just seems unlikely.
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States23221 Posts
January 29 2017 04:48 GMT
#133710
On January 29 2017 13:44 pmh wrote:
Cant the administration appeal this ruling and take it all the way to the supreme court if needed? It seems hard to believe that a local judge can have this much influence over what the government can and cant do.

Yeah, except while Trump does that the protests get bigger, the airlines and their passengers get more angry, and people start looking more closely at how the ban is stupid even if we take it's intentions at face value.

He's more likely to try to distract from it with something even more ridiculous but less substantive.
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20254 Posts
January 29 2017 04:49 GMT
#133711
On January 29 2017 13:44 pmh wrote:
Cant the administration appeal this ruling and take it all the way to the supreme court if needed? It seems hard to believe that a local judge can have this much influence over what the government can and cant do.
That would be something,halve of trumps executive orders being undone by local justices,it just seems unlikely.


That is why they said it was a marathon. This fight will be in many courts and will take a long time to resolve. I think they just wanted the temporary stay so the people caught in the middle can at least get home?
Never Knows Best.
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
January 29 2017 04:55 GMT
#133712
you know whats funny? i remember someone (maybe xdaunt) talking about using korematsu v US as precedent for a muslim ban/ registry. at this rate looks like it's going to happen.
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Doodsmack
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7224 Posts
January 29 2017 05:09 GMT
#133713
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
January 29 2017 05:13 GMT
#133714
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Doodsmack
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7224 Posts
January 29 2017 05:37 GMT
#133715
On January 29 2017 13:44 pmh wrote:
Cant the administration appeal this ruling and take it all the way to the supreme court if needed? It seems hard to believe that a local judge can have this much influence over what the government can and cant do.
That would be something,halve of trumps executive orders being undone by local justices,it just seems unlikely.


Same thing happened with Obama, his immigration executive order was stopped by a Texas judge.
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
January 29 2017 06:07 GMT
#133716
On January 29 2017 13:55 ticklishmusic wrote:
you know whats funny? i remember someone (maybe xdaunt) talking about using korematsu v US as precedent for a muslim ban/ registry. at this rate looks like it's going to happen.

Yeah, this case is going to shoot right up to the Supreme Court.
LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United Kingdom13775 Posts
January 29 2017 06:16 GMT
#133717
My guess is that Trump would just stall till his 90 days are up and then it will become an irrelevance.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
Introvert
Profile Joined April 2011
United States4748 Posts
January 29 2017 07:12 GMT
#133718
What an incompetent way for Trump to go about doing what he said he was going to do. That's what they get for writing it themselves. We'll see how long this lasts, I suspect not long.
"It is therefore only at the birth of a society that one can be completely logical in the laws. When you see a people enjoying this advantage, do not hasten to conclude that it is wise; think rather that it is young." -Alexis de Tocqueville
Liquid`Jinro
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Sweden33719 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-01-29 07:17:27
January 29 2017 07:14 GMT
#133719
Maybe he didnt want to actually do this but now he made a big splash and can show his base he tried but thwarted by the damned liberals..

It seems a little insane to put something out that has ran into legal obstacles after less than a day?
Moderatortell the guy that interplanatar interaction is pivotal to terrans variety of optionitudals in the pre-midgame preperatories as well as the protosstinal deterriggation of elite zergling strikes - Stimey n | Formerly FrozenArbiter
LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United Kingdom13775 Posts
January 29 2017 07:16 GMT
#133720
I think he achieved what he wanted. We just think it's stupid so it looks bad.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
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