EPTOn January 11 2017 07:27 Mohdoo wrote:
Happy birthday, Doodsmack!
Happy birthday, Doodsmack!
Thanks it's actually tomorrow though
. TL's birthday cakes shouldn't be on Korean time lol.US Politics Mega-thread - Page 6536
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Doodsmack
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Thanks it's actually tomorrow though . TL's birthday cakes shouldn't be on Korean time lol. | ||
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Mohdoo
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GreenHorizons
United States23238 Posts
On January 11 2017 11:09 Doodsmack wrote: I think those are exaggerations to say that journalism is dead and everything is fake news. I'm not saying "everything is fake news" and I put "journalists" in quotes to delineate them from people who actually do journalism. Just real journalists aren't the "main stream", they are the aberration, not "fake news" | ||
Liquid`Jinro
Sweden33719 Posts
On January 11 2017 11:10 Doodsmack wrote: Thanks it's actually tomorrow though . TL's birthday cakes shouldn't be on Korean time lol.You'll celebrate your birthday when we god damn tell you to!! ... would probably be pretty easy to tie it to a users personal timezone tbh. | ||
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Nyxisto
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On January 11 2017 11:15 GreenHorizons wrote: I'm not saying "everything is fake news" and I put "journalists" in quotes to delineate them from people who actually do journalism. Just real journalists aren't the "main stream", they are the aberration, not "fake news" there's plenty of 'real' journalism around in the 'mainstream'. This demagoguery against everything that isn't democracy now is pretty undemocratic in itself. | ||
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TheTenthDoc
United States9561 Posts
On January 11 2017 10:39 Nevuk wrote: I think the CIA took rumors that Trump wanted to restructure them personally and we're now seeing some of the effects. Moreso the leaked rumors about him being briefed about attempts to compromise him than the golden showers thing. Also, I'm not really sure how much damage the golden showers/whores thing will actually do to Trump's reputation. There have been numerous worse things revealed about him already, at least in this instance everyone would be consenting. Anyone who would be offended by it has already been offended by the pussy grabbing and is now unable to look their daughter in the eye (sorry, Jason Chaffetz). Even if a tape is actually leaked I don't think it would hurt him. His reputation cannot get worse among anyone at this point - his followers will not believe anything negative (would claim it was a conspiracy), and his enemies already think the worst of him. You might think his own reputation can't get worse, but I can almost guarantee he doesn't believe that-he thinks the majority of Americans love him-and we're not in an opposition dump phase anymore. What matters when it comes to blackmailing a politician in office is whether it's something he would want to keep private and his own patriotism. Regardless of what the public thinks of Trump, he cannot handle being called a deviant or harasser or cruel to women. And, perhaps far more importantly, he cannot handle it when people impugn his business acumen. That's why if I were blackmailing him I would probably go with the financial angle. (also, there's golden showers then there's ordering Russian prostitutes to piss on each other specifically in a bed specifically chosen because it was slept in by the last President and his first lady-which is why I doubt the brief) | ||
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GreenHorizons
United States23238 Posts
On January 11 2017 11:16 Nyxisto wrote: there's plenty of 'real' journalism around in the 'mainstream'. This demagoguery against everything that isn't democracy now is pretty undemocratic in itself. "Plenty" maybe, not sure what that means. I'd say my statement is more accurate regarding cable/network news. So I'd be curious if you actually think that real journalism is the majority of what we see on cable/network news.? (I realize you probably have no idea as you don't watch much American news TV I would imagine) | ||
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Introvert
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GreenHorizons
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On January 11 2017 11:23 Nyxisto wrote: well cable and network news is pretty shit but well.... it's tv news which has always been bad pretty much everywhere. Journalism also includes classical journalism. The NYT, Economist what have you are still doing good work. They almost all have a tendency to use unnamed sources without disclosing why they are anonymous which is generally against journalistic ethics. They violate their fair share too, but I can agree that outlets that still actually print stuff tend to be better than tv news at trying to keep some connection to their ethics code. On January 11 2017 11:25 Introvert wrote: Meanwhile Obama giving one more snooze worthy lecture. Good bye, adios, see you hopefully never again. He's basically saying "I should have supported Bernie" | ||
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xDaunt
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TheTenthDoc
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kwizach
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On January 11 2017 11:27 GreenHorizons wrote: He's basically saying "I should have supported Bernie" No, he's not. At all. | ||
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Spaylz
Japan1743 Posts
On January 11 2017 11:37 xDaunt wrote: So a guy from 4chan/pol is claiming credit for the golden showers part of the story. Just think about how big of an alt right troll job this is if true. The credit is based on a handful of incredibly vague posts made last year. See below: https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/95568919/#95571329 https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/95568919/#q95571800 https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/95568919/#q95572216 As anyone can see, there's no concrete mention of really... anything at all. It's just incredibly broad, vague posts that could be retroactively tied to virtually anything. | ||
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zlefin
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blade55555
United States17423 Posts
On January 11 2017 12:59 Spaylz wrote: The credit is based on a handful of incredibly vague posts made last year. See below: https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/95568919/#95571329 https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/95568919/#q95571800 https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/95568919/#q95572216 As anyone can see, there's no concrete mention of really... anything at all. It's just incredibly broad, vague posts that could be retroactively tied to virtually anything. Yeah but if you read the story it's pretty obvious it's fake. As you say about those posts there, that's more credit then what's in the article. | ||
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Spaylz
Japan1743 Posts
On January 11 2017 13:16 blade55555 wrote: Yeah but if you read the story it's pretty obvious it's fake. As you say about those posts there, that's more credit then what's in the article. I didn't read the articles, just the linked paper here. The format is certainly odd, but it's because they're memos. I haven't made up my mind yet, but I don't really believe it's some sort of supreme 4chan troll. | ||
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Nyxisto
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LegalLord
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+ Show Spoiler + https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/818990655418617856 (retweet) Also, Obama's speech seems like something of a departure from the kind of things he would have said 4-8 years ago. The "we made great progress on the economy" shtick seemed somewhat short and almost perfunctory, while his "we need to protect democracy" warning seemed to be the real core of his speech. Also: all those people who said that Buzzfeed is "actually good news site" do you stand by that after this bullshit story? | ||
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