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Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22440 Posts
December 24 2016 11:19 GMT
#129461
On December 24 2016 19:55 MyTHicaL wrote:
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/dec/24/israel-rejects-shameful-un-resolution-amid-criticism-of-netanyahu

Finally the US has goddamn finally abstained from protecting the disgusting behaviour of Israel. Goddamnit. Yeah Trump can try to reverse it, but it will need the popular vote in the UN.

Or, and here is a real shocker, no one gives a shit because its sending a letter to the school bully to please stop being mean. Its pointless, toothless and will not change a single thing for anyone involved.

It could mean something if it was the first step on a long road to reining in Israel. But as you said yourself, Trump and the GOP will ensure that does not happen
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Orcasgt24
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada3238 Posts
December 24 2016 11:30 GMT
#129462
When was the last time any nation gave two shits about a piece of paper with a UN sticker on it? Every country ignored their rules and mandates on a daily basis!
In Hearthstone we pray to RNGesus. When Yogg-Saron hits the field, RNGod gets to work
zlefin
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
United States7689 Posts
December 24 2016 14:32 GMT
#129463
On December 24 2016 16:59 LegalLord wrote:
Anyone pleased with lame duck Obama and the last minute policy pushes he's been approving? They seem almost universally retarded from what I've seen, meant to make life more difficult for Trump as he starts.

Also, I just took my first good look at the Trump Twitter account in about a month. He has definitely been pulling his A-game lately.

I'm ambivalent.
On the one hand, I liked some of the policies, on the other hand, as a principle I don't like doing last-minute policy pushes so much.

They don't look to me to be about making it more difficult for trump per se, as about protecting important things to make sure they aren't trashed recklessly.
of course you and I are probably focusing on different policies. we might come to more similar conclusions on individual policies.
Great read: http://shorensteincenter.org/news-coverage-2016-general-election/ great book on democracy: http://press.princeton.edu/titles/10671.html zlefin is grumpier due to long term illness. Ignoring some users.
LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United States13779 Posts
December 24 2016 23:15 GMT
#129464
Trump apparently intends to dissolve the Trump Foundation.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
Danglars
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States12133 Posts
December 25 2016 01:53 GMT
#129465
On December 25 2016 08:15 LegalLord wrote:
Trump apparently intends to dissolve the Trump Foundation.

Surprising, but probably a good move.
Great armies come from happy zealots, and happy zealots come from California!
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GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States24059 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-12-25 03:16:39
December 25 2016 03:10 GMT
#129466
On December 25 2016 08:15 LegalLord wrote:
Trump apparently intends to dissolve the Trump Foundation.


With ~$1 million in assets, about $500k a year in spending, and 0 staff, I think it's safe to say it was little more than a shell.

Probably would have cost him more in lawyer fees and fines to get everything sorted out than the foundation was worth anyway.
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
TheTenthDoc
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9561 Posts
December 25 2016 05:58 GMT
#129467
Well, apparently he can't dissolve it as long as it's part of an ongoing investigation (at least the NY attorney general investigating says as much). Who knows exactly what that entails.
farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18864 Posts
December 25 2016 13:55 GMT
#129468
Merry Christmas y'all
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
OuchyDathurts
Profile Joined September 2010
United States4588 Posts
December 25 2016 14:26 GMT
#129469
Indeed, Happy Holidays everyone. Have a safe and joyous season!
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zlefin
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
United States7689 Posts
December 25 2016 14:53 GMT
#129470
merry christmas and happy holidays.
Great read: http://shorensteincenter.org/news-coverage-2016-general-election/ great book on democracy: http://press.princeton.edu/titles/10671.html zlefin is grumpier due to long term illness. Ignoring some users.
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States24059 Posts
December 25 2016 18:17 GMT
#129471
Merry Christmas. Next year I'm celebrating Saturnalia instead, I invite everyone to join me.
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
December 25 2016 18:48 GMT
#129472
One man wrote a check for $10,000 to an organization that helps women get elected to office, saying he was “embarrassed” that Donald Trump won the presidential election.

Someone else walked into the office of an organization advocating for immigrant rights and handed over a bag of cash he had just collected from members of his local community civics group.

From smaller local organizations to household names such as Planned Parenthood and the ACLU, nonprofit organizations across the US reported fundraising tallies many magnitudes higher than in previous years as they approached their end-of-year donation drives.

“This is always our big time of year, but this year it’s huge,” said Loretta Prescott, development director for the Immigration Legal Advocacy Project in Maine. “Instead of giving gifts, people are making donations to causes they believe in.”

Progressive causes in the US saw a spike in donations immediately after the election on 8 November from voters dismayed, outraged or even frightened by the outcome. In the weeks since, this wave of strategic giving has compounded.

Planned Parenthood has received more than 300,000 donations in the six weeks since the election, 40 times its normal rate. Around half the donors were millennials and 70% had never given to the family planning organization before, a spokesman told the Guardian.

Women’s reproductive rights are considered under threat on many fronts from an incoming Trump administration. Vice president-elect Mike Pence has such a reputation for being anti-abortion that since the election, 82,000 of Planned Parenthood’s donations have been from pro-choice supporters making gifts to them in his name.

The ACLU donations web page crashed the day after the election as visitors increased by 7,000%, and in the next five days it raised more than $7m from 120,000 donors. Now it says it has raised almost $23m from more than 300,000 individual gifts in just online donations.

Advocacy consulting group 270 Strategies – created in 2013 by veterans of Barack Obama’s two presidential election campaigns and which specializes in advising progressive causes on grassroots organizing – said many of its hundreds of clients were reporting a surge in support.


Source
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United States13779 Posts
December 25 2016 19:03 GMT
#129473
A woman should be elected when a female candidate happens to be the best candidate for president. I see no virtue in choosing a woman for being a woman.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
Doodsmack
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7224 Posts
December 25 2016 19:31 GMT
#129474
On December 25 2016 12:10 GreenHorizons wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 25 2016 08:15 LegalLord wrote:
Trump apparently intends to dissolve the Trump Foundation.


With ~$1 million in assets, about $500k a year in spending, and 0 staff, I think it's safe to say it was little more than a shell.

Probably would have cost him more in lawyer fees and fines to get everything sorted out than the foundation was worth anyway.


I would bet he's happy to dissolve it lol. It doesn't even make sense to dissolve it considering how small time it is. It's PR to make it look like he's resolving his conflicts.
Doodsmack
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7224 Posts
December 25 2016 19:33 GMT
#129475
On December 26 2016 04:03 LegalLord wrote:
A woman should be elected when a female candidate happens to be the best candidate for president. I see no virtue in choosing a woman for being a woman.


I do see virtue in donating to causes that a rapist president might not support.
Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States14151 Posts
December 25 2016 19:33 GMT
#129476
On December 26 2016 04:03 LegalLord wrote:
A woman should be elected when a female candidate happens to be the best candidate for president. I see no virtue in choosing a woman for being a woman.

There's a point to be made about why the first female leader of the UK and SK were conservative. I think a point could be made about a different perspective on a problem or a different way of management but I doubt any of that can get through with a party of identity politics.
A wise man will say that he knows nothing. We're gona party like its 2752 Hail Dark Brandon
MyTHicaL
Profile Joined November 2005
France1070 Posts
December 25 2016 19:40 GMT
#129477
On December 26 2016 04:33 Sermokala wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 26 2016 04:03 LegalLord wrote:
A woman should be elected when a female candidate happens to be the best candidate for president. I see no virtue in choosing a woman for being a woman.

There's a point to be made about why the first female leader of the UK and SK were conservative. I think a point could be made about a different perspective on a problem or a different way of management but I doubt any of that can get through with a party of identity politics.


Umm The wicked witch aka maggie thatcher was not technically conservative. Or do you think that T May is the first woman prime minister? ;O.
Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States14151 Posts
December 25 2016 19:51 GMT
#129478
On December 26 2016 04:40 MyTHicaL wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 26 2016 04:33 Sermokala wrote:
On December 26 2016 04:03 LegalLord wrote:
A woman should be elected when a female candidate happens to be the best candidate for president. I see no virtue in choosing a woman for being a woman.

There's a point to be made about why the first female leader of the UK and SK were conservative. I think a point could be made about a different perspective on a problem or a different way of management but I doubt any of that can get through with a party of identity politics.


Umm The wicked witch aka maggie thatcher was not technically conservative. Or do you think that T May is the first woman prime minister? ;O.

She was a part of the conservative party when she was elected how much more technical can you get. Nice respect to someone who should inspire women to leadership.
A wise man will say that he knows nothing. We're gona party like its 2752 Hail Dark Brandon
Danglars
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States12133 Posts
December 25 2016 21:17 GMT
#129479
Merry Christmas!

and Happy 26 days until President Trump! Peace on earth to our divided country.



Great armies come from happy zealots, and happy zealots come from California!
TL+ Member
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22440 Posts
December 25 2016 21:27 GMT
#129480
On December 26 2016 04:03 LegalLord wrote:
A woman should be elected when a female candidate happens to be the best candidate for president. I see no virtue in choosing a woman for being a woman.

Woooossshhhhh

That's the sound of the point going over your head.

Its not about 'not electing a women'
Its about electing someone who thinks 'Grab em by the pussy' is acceptable.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
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