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On November 10 2016 08:17 farvacola wrote:I'm going to be doing my best to make sure that Democrats on my Facebook feed know that the Democratic Party is why Democrats lost; while not entirely true, the point must be made, repeatedly if necessary. I'll wait a few days though 
Y'all may have your own Tea Party uprising in 2018.
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On November 10 2016 08:23 xDaunt wrote:Show nested quote +On November 10 2016 08:17 farvacola wrote:I'm going to be doing my best to make sure that Democrats on my Facebook feed know that the Democratic Party is why Democrats lost; while not entirely true, the point must be made, repeatedly if necessary. I'll wait a few days though Y'all may have your own Tea Party uprising in 2018.
Our party leadership doesn't have enough actual political power for things to break down like they did with the Republicans and the Tea Party, though a splintering of sorts is very possible.
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Bernie was the Dem's Tea Party, but it just shows what a bad equivalency it is.
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Kelly Ayotte officially lost her NH Senate Seat, leaving the post-election Senate balance at 51 R, 48 D.
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On November 10 2016 08:17 On_Slaught wrote:
No point bitching at this point; we lost. Figure out why and fix it for the next election. There is a lot of blame to spread around no doubt.
I envy your optimism.
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Any projections on Trump's nominee for Supreme Court?
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it is what it is. dem big tent splintering will happen. what comes after is another problem altogether.
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On November 10 2016 08:40 oneofthem wrote:
it is what it is. dem big tent splintering will happen. what comes after is another problem altogether.
It's not like Biden didn't try his best to tell people to stop taking Michigan and Wisconsin for granted. The leadership knows what happened. They spent their time going after fucking Arizona instead of actually tending to their flock.
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On November 10 2016 08:39 yrba1 wrote:
Any projections on Trump's nominee for Supreme Court?
I think he has a list of around 20 people who are more or less equivalent to Scalia.
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On November 10 2016 08:11 Yoav wrote:Show nested quote +On November 10 2016 08:10 xDaunt wrote:On November 10 2016 08:04 Yoav wrote:On November 10 2016 06:26 Kaiwa wrote:
I've already been unfriended by 3 people on Facebook for telling them facts. Hmm. Were you an asshole about it? I have Facebook friends who sleep around more than is good for them. But you better believe I'd get unfriended if I posted on their wall about how much of a slut they are. I've seen all sorts of sad shit and sobbing on Facebook from my friends (the vast majority of whom are liberal). There really isn't anything to be gained by commenting or throwing in my two cents. Hell, even if I wanted to be mean and rub the election in their faces (which many of them deserve, by the way), there is nothing that I could say that would be worse than the election result itself. Best to just remain silent. Which is classy, and I'm sure appreciated.
how do you know how much sleeping around is good for your friends?
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On November 10 2016 08:39 CosmicSpiral wrote:Show nested quote +On November 10 2016 08:17 On_Slaught wrote:
No point bitching at this point; we lost. Figure out why and fix it for the next election. There is a lot of blame to spread around no doubt. I envy your optimism.
Probably closer to apathy or nihilism at this point but I'll take optimism.
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All three can look the same, particularly during a post-election hangover.
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On November 10 2016 08:45 IgnE wrote:Show nested quote +On November 10 2016 08:11 Yoav wrote:On November 10 2016 08:10 xDaunt wrote:On November 10 2016 08:04 Yoav wrote:On November 10 2016 06:26 Kaiwa wrote:
I've already been unfriended by 3 people on Facebook for telling them facts. Hmm. Were you an asshole about it? I have Facebook friends who sleep around more than is good for them. But you better believe I'd get unfriended if I posted on their wall about how much of a slut they are. I've seen all sorts of sad shit and sobbing on Facebook from my friends (the vast majority of whom are liberal). There really isn't anything to be gained by commenting or throwing in my two cents. Hell, even if I wanted to be mean and rub the election in their faces (which many of them deserve, by the way), there is nothing that I could say that would be worse than the election result itself. Best to just remain silent. Which is classy, and I'm sure appreciated. how do you know how much sleeping around is good for your friends?
That's easy to know: if they slept with you that means they've slept around just the right ammount  .
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On November 10 2016 08:46 On_Slaught wrote:Show nested quote +On November 10 2016 08:39 CosmicSpiral wrote:On November 10 2016 08:17 On_Slaught wrote:
No point bitching at this point; we lost. Figure out why and fix it for the next election. There is a lot of blame to spread around no doubt. I envy your optimism. Probably closer to apathy or nihilism at this point but I'll take optimism.
Repubs had to do the same in 08-16 with many failures except for the focusing on gov races which cemented the house in their favor.
Dems are going to do the same for 2018-20, especially since it is a presidential election, and especially moreso if trump fails which everyone says he will, and dems get to defend the majority of senate seats in 2018 too.
But if trump does well in his first term, and we will get a feeling during the midterms, dems might suffer in 2020 to erode the GOP house advantage to create favorable districts.
These next 4 years are pretty huge and will set up the landscape for the next decade in congress. Dems do have the favorable demographic shift which will start to play a role in 2020+ for sure, so they got that going for them.
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On November 10 2016 08:34 farvacola wrote:
Kelly Ayotte officially lost her NH Senate Seat, leaving the post-election Senate balance at 51 R, 48 D.
She shoulda hopped on the Trump Train. She may have pulled it out if she showed some solidarity with Trump. Hell, she may have been able to flip the state for him.
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On November 10 2016 08:43 Mohdoo wrote:Show nested quote +On November 10 2016 08:40 oneofthem wrote:
it is what it is. dem big tent splintering will happen. what comes after is another problem altogether. It's not like Biden didn't try his best to tell people to stop taking Michigan and Wisconsin for granted. The leadership knows what happened. They spent their time going after fucking Arizona instead of actually tending to their flock.
they got trolled by the polls and 'data analytics'
that and impossible to run against le banks etc given history and such
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On November 10 2016 08:23 xDaunt wrote:Show nested quote +On November 10 2016 08:17 farvacola wrote:I'm going to be doing my best to make sure that Democrats on my Facebook feed know that the Democratic Party is why Democrats lost; while not entirely true, the point must be made, repeatedly if necessary. I'll wait a few days though Y'all may have your own Tea Party uprising in 2018.
Democratic political strategy also has an obsession with maintaining the moral high ground. Hence why their only response to things like gerrymandering or government shutdowns is to whine about how the Republicans are all being bad people rather than executing a political strategy that accomplishes their goals the way the Republicans do (even though those goals aren't necessarily good for the people).
I don't see a Democratic Tea Party being nearly as effective for this reason.
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We all saw how effective the Occupy movement was.
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On November 10 2016 08:54 oneofthem wrote:Show nested quote +On November 10 2016 08:43 Mohdoo wrote:On November 10 2016 08:40 oneofthem wrote:
it is what it is. dem big tent splintering will happen. what comes after is another problem altogether. It's not like Biden didn't try his best to tell people to stop taking Michigan and Wisconsin for granted. The leadership knows what happened. They spent their time going after fucking Arizona instead of actually tending to their flock. they got trolled by the polls and 'data analytics' that and impossible to run against le banks etc given history and such
I know hindsight is 2020, but...
Bernie won Wisconsin 57 to 43. Should that not have shown Democrats the fact that Union worker types were becoming skeptical of the democratic elite?
If these working class union type of democrats were choosing Sanders over Clinton, they should have wondered why. Then they should have found that these workers are voting for Sanders for the same reasons these types were originally brought into the party. If they had considered that, they would have realized these voters would be charmed by Trump the same way they were charmed by Bernie.
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Kelly Ayotte has lost, so good riddance to her at least.
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