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Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands21600 Posts
November 09 2016 21:26 GMT
#123061
On November 10 2016 06:21 GoTuNk! wrote:
I'm still looking for a hint of an answer to the following question.
How much did "internet characters" influence the election? (S. Molyneux, Mike Cernovich, Mia yannopolus, Paul Watson, Breitbart, etc..)

Considering that Breitbart ran Trumps campaign i would say their influence was significant.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Kaiwa
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Netherlands2209 Posts
November 09 2016 21:26 GMT
#123062
I've already been unfriended by 3 people on Facebook for telling them facts. Hmm.
시크릿 / 씨스타 / 에이핑크 / 윤하 / 가비앤제이
arbiter_md
Profile Joined February 2008
Moldova1219 Posts
November 09 2016 21:29 GMT
#123063
OK, we had Brexit and now Trump. Looks like people started to like making surprise results when it comes to voting.

I didn't like any of the two candidates, and it was always a mystery to me how the two big parties ended up pushing in front such people. But, the big question now is: what is Trump going to do? Because all I've heard was that he is going to build a wall and Mexicans will pay for that wall (which is absurd, but you never know - maybe Mexicans will want a wall after few years of Trump in US) and that he will deny entrance for Muslims in US. No idea what's next.
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oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
November 09 2016 21:31 GMT
#123064
On November 10 2016 06:25 CorsairHero wrote:
Stock market closes up today. Biotech ETF up 7% today and Dow up 260 points. So much for the Trump crash.

and banks up yuuuge.

higher drug prices, more m&a bonanza, good stuff.
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
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Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States7542 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-11-09 21:35:28
November 09 2016 21:33 GMT
#123065
On November 10 2016 06:29 arbiter_md wrote:
OK, we had Brexit and now Trump. Looks like people started to like making surprise results when it comes to voting.

I didn't like any of the two candidates, and it was always a mystery to me how the two big parties ended up pushing in front such people. But, the big question now is: what is Trump going to do? Because all I've heard was that he is going to build a wall and Mexicans will pay for that wall (which is absurd, but you never know - maybe Mexicans will want a wall after few years of Trump in US) and that he will deny entrance for Muslims in US. No idea what's next.


I still think this is the best look at what you can expect from a Trump presidency:

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/grading-the-presidential-candidates-on-science/

Example:


There is growing concern over the decline of fisheries and the overall health of the ocean: scientists estimate that 90% of stocks are fished at or beyond sustainable limits, habitats like coral reefs are threatened by ocean acidification, and large areas of ocean and coastlines are polluted. What efforts would your administration make to improve the health of our ocean and coastlines and increase the long-term sustainability of ocean fisheries?


Trump's reply:


My administration will work with Congress to establish priorities for our government and how we will allocate our limited fiscal resources. This approach will assure that the people’s voices will be heard on this topic and others.
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pmh
Profile Joined March 2016
1352 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-11-09 21:39:52
November 09 2016 21:35 GMT
#123066
On November 10 2016 06:21 GoTuNk! wrote:
I'm still looking for a hint of an answer to the following question.
How much did "internet characters" influence the election? (S. Molyneux, Mike Cernovich, Mia yannopolus, Paul Watson, Breitbart, etc..)



Almost no influence at all. The average voter does not spend his days reading internet blogs,i bet the vast majority of voters have never heard from any of the above.

The thought that "guerilla" media somehow contributed to hillarys loss is far from reality imo,its almost like a conspiracy lol.

The average joe gets his news from the tv networks and maybe some mainstream internet site. Not all these blogs found on reddit or 4chan.
CorsairHero
Profile Joined December 2008
Canada9491 Posts
November 09 2016 21:36 GMT
#123067
On November 10 2016 06:31 oneofthem wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2016 06:25 CorsairHero wrote:
Stock market closes up today. Biotech ETF up 7% today and Dow up 260 points. So much for the Trump crash.

and banks up yuuuge.

higher drug prices, more m&a bonanza, good stuff.

Corrections Corporation of America prison stock is up 43% as well
:\
© Current year.
Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
November 09 2016 21:36 GMT
#123068
Did Maine pass their proportional voting measure?
On_Slaught
Profile Joined August 2008
United States12190 Posts
November 09 2016 21:41 GMT
#123069
On November 10 2016 06:25 CorsairHero wrote:
Stock market closes up today. Biotech ETF up 7% today and Dow up 260 points. So much for the Trump crash.


We'll see how it looks if and when he starts trade Wars with Mexico and China.
Logo
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States7542 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-11-09 21:45:56
November 09 2016 21:42 GMT
#123070
On November 10 2016 06:35 pmh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2016 06:21 GoTuNk! wrote:
I'm still looking for a hint of an answer to the following question.
How much did "internet characters" influence the election? (S. Molyneux, Mike Cernovich, Mia yannopolus, Paul Watson, Breitbart, etc..)



Almost no influence at all. The average voter does not spend his days reading internet blogs,i bet the vast majority of voters have never heard from any of the above.

The thought that "guerilla" media somehow contributed to hillarys loss is far from reality imo,its almost like a conspiracy lol.

The average joe gets his news from the tv networks and maybe some mainstream internet site. Not all these blogs found on reddit or 4chan.


Those mainstream sources and Facebook... where the links can lead to all sorts of places.
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Furikawari
Profile Joined February 2014
France2522 Posts
November 09 2016 21:58 GMT
#123071
Just face it, hillary lost because she is Hillary: pure product of the establishment, and nowadays it's really not something u wanna be as a politician.
Tachion
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada8573 Posts
November 09 2016 21:59 GMT
#123072
On November 10 2016 06:33 Logo wrote:

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/grading-the-presidential-candidates-on-science/

Holy shit that is savage. Those answers read like Trump is a kid trying to bs his way through a book report on something he never read.
i was driving down the road this november eve and spotted a hitchhiker walking down the street. i pulled over and saw that it was only a tree. i uprooted it and put it in my trunk. do trees like marshmallow peeps? cause that's all i have and will have.
Logo
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States7542 Posts
November 09 2016 22:02 GMT
#123073
On November 10 2016 06:59 Tachion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2016 06:33 Logo wrote:

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/grading-the-presidential-candidates-on-science/

Holy shit that is savage. Those answers read like Trump is a kid trying to bs his way through a book report on something he never read.


Yes.

Also Gary Johnson's familiarity with Nuclear power is unsettling. (well not really, but was a surprisingly comprehensive response).
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Nyxisto
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany6287 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-11-09 22:10:38
November 09 2016 22:09 GMT
#123074
On November 10 2016 06:59 Tachion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2016 06:33 Logo wrote:

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/grading-the-presidential-candidates-on-science/

Holy shit that is savage. Those answers read like Trump is a kid trying to bs his way through a book report on something he never read.


Yes, the scientific policies that will come out of this government will be a sight to behold. Pray to god that the Paris climate agreement isn't going to be abandoned.
Logo
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States7542 Posts
November 09 2016 22:12 GMT
#123075
On November 10 2016 07:09 Nyxisto wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2016 06:59 Tachion wrote:
On November 10 2016 06:33 Logo wrote:

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/grading-the-presidential-candidates-on-science/

Holy shit that is savage. Those answers read like Trump is a kid trying to bs his way through a book report on something he never read.


Yes, the scientific policies that will come out of this government will be a sight to behold. Pray to god that the Paris climate agreement isn't going to be abandoned.


Um... https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/trump-picks-top-climate-skeptic-to-lead-epa-transition/

Sorry.
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JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16669 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-11-09 22:22:31
November 09 2016 22:19 GMT
#123076
On November 10 2016 06:41 On_Slaught wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2016 06:25 CorsairHero wrote:
Stock market closes up today. Biotech ETF up 7% today and Dow up 260 points. So much for the Trump crash.

We'll see how it looks if and when he starts trade Wars with Mexico and China.

i hope he does... Ontario got a lot a stuff to sell to New York. NAFTA sucks i hope he scraps it. i got no problem with products and services going across the US/Canada border because we have similar living standards and similar employee pay. I don't want Canada signing some sweetheart trade deal with a country that pays people $0.20 an hour.
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18822 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-11-09 22:21:52
November 09 2016 22:21 GMT
#123077
On November 10 2016 07:19 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2016 06:41 On_Slaught wrote:
On November 10 2016 06:25 CorsairHero wrote:
Stock market closes up today. Biotech ETF up 7% today and Dow up 260 points. So much for the Trump crash.

We'll see how it looks if and when he starts trade Wars with Mexico and China.

i hope he does... Ontario got a lot a stuff to sell to New York

Given Trudeau's treatment of Trump, too bad for Ontario, we won't be buying its stuff.
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16669 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-11-09 22:24:49
November 09 2016 22:23 GMT
#123078
Wynne and Trudeau are already in begging mode.... i think 2/3s of all of Ontario's exports are bought by New York state. i'd like to see that # climb.
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18822 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-11-09 22:24:36
November 09 2016 22:24 GMT
#123079
Trump doesn't like beggars I'd guess.
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16669 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-11-09 22:28:47
November 09 2016 22:25 GMT
#123080
On November 10 2016 07:24 farvacola wrote:
Trump doesn't like beggars I'd guess.

there will always be trade between ONtario and New York state. the question is "how much". if Trump starts big fights with Mexico and China it opens up opportunities for others.
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
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