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TheTenthDoc
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9561 Posts
November 02 2016 22:17 GMT
#117601
Clearly Lisa Bloom learned from Assange. Both of them have fairly good reason to be afraid of people shooting them though.
Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
November 02 2016 22:17 GMT
#117602
Little-Chimp
Profile Joined February 2008
Canada948 Posts
November 02 2016 22:21 GMT
#117603
Not surprising.
zeo
Profile Joined October 2009
Serbia6284 Posts
November 02 2016 22:21 GMT
#117604
How can you even receive death threats while anonymous? What a train wreck for the democrats
"If only Kircheis were here" - Everyone
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-11-02 22:23:39
November 02 2016 22:22 GMT
#117605
They burned down a Black church is Mississippi and put vote Trump on it. Can't blame them for being scared.

On November 03 2016 07:21 zeo wrote:
How can you even receive death threats while anonymous? What a train wreck for the democrats


You send them to the publicly listed law firm that filed the case?
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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Doodsmack
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7224 Posts
November 02 2016 22:23 GMT
#117606
On November 03 2016 07:21 zeo wrote:
How can you even receive death threats while anonymous? What a train wreck for the democrats


Certain people know who she is, keep in mind.
zeo
Profile Joined October 2009
Serbia6284 Posts
November 02 2016 22:24 GMT
#117607
On November 03 2016 07:23 Doodsmack wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2016 07:21 zeo wrote:
How can you even receive death threats while anonymous? What a train wreck for the democrats


Certain people know who she is, keep in mind.

Let me guess. Putin? :D
"If only Kircheis were here" - Everyone
iPlaY.NettleS
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Australia4329 Posts
November 02 2016 22:25 GMT
#117608
Virginia poll that had clinton +12 in early October now show Trump +3.

http://news.hamptonu.edu/release/Hampton-University's-CPP-Latest-Poll-Shows-VA-Voter-Shift-from-Clinton-to-Trump-Post-Email-Investigation?a=1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7PvoI6gvQs
TheTenthDoc
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9561 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-11-02 22:28:44
November 02 2016 22:28 GMT
#117609
On November 03 2016 07:24 zeo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2016 07:23 Doodsmack wrote:
On November 03 2016 07:21 zeo wrote:
How can you even receive death threats while anonymous? What a train wreck for the democrats


Certain people know who she is, keep in mind.

Let me guess. Putin? :D


No, her law firm. If it's owned by Putin that would be a next level twist though
Little-Chimp
Profile Joined February 2008
Canada948 Posts
November 02 2016 22:28 GMT
#117610
On November 03 2016 07:22 Plansix wrote:
They burned down a Black church is Mississippi and put vote Trump on it. Can't blame them for being scared.

Show nested quote +
On November 03 2016 07:21 zeo wrote:
How can you even receive death threats while anonymous? What a train wreck for the democrats


You send them to the publicly listed law firm that filed the case?


Do you really think Trump is a full on rapist who ties girls down 13 year old girls, rapes them and threatens their families? That's what she accused him of. I think there's a reason the media barely touched this one.

He would make a complete shit president but you actually demonize him that much? At some point you need to be a little more objective.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
November 02 2016 22:29 GMT
#117611
On November 03 2016 07:25 iPlaY.NettleS wrote:
Virginia poll that had clinton +12 in early October now show Trump +3.

http://news.hamptonu.edu/release/Hampton-University's-CPP-Latest-Poll-Shows-VA-Voter-Shift-from-Clinton-to-Trump-Post-Email-Investigation?a=1


http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-election-forecast/virginia/

So what about the 5 other recent polls that conflict with that result?
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
November 02 2016 22:32 GMT
#117612
On November 03 2016 07:28 Little-Chimp wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2016 07:22 Plansix wrote:
They burned down a Black church is Mississippi and put vote Trump on it. Can't blame them for being scared.

On November 03 2016 07:21 zeo wrote:
How can you even receive death threats while anonymous? What a train wreck for the democrats


You send them to the publicly listed law firm that filed the case?


Do you really think Trump is a full on rapist who ties girls down 13 year old girls, rapes them and threatens their families? That's what she accused him of. I think there's a reason the media barely touched this one.

He would make a complete shit president but you actually demonize him that much? At some point you need to be a little more objective.

I think Trump is a piece of shit and that freely sexually assaults women and would rape them if he could get away with it. The age limit of who he would sexually assault is hard to say, but I won't dismiss it outright because it sounds exactly like something he would do if he could get away with it.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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Doodsmack
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7224 Posts
November 02 2016 22:32 GMT
#117613
I’ve been covering Trump since 1985, when I worked for The New York Times’ women’s pages. He endorsed one of my books, about real estate, and was a character in two more of them. He talked to me about sex and substances and the substance of the arena in which he made his name, real estate. I published all of it. In 1999, he told me that in 1995 he’d been worth about negative $900 million. I didn’t have the chops to think to ask for his tax returns.

I also wrote a book about the modeling industry and heard stories about Trump but didn’t write them because he wasn’t important in it, just another rich guy buying a date farm, perhaps for his friends, perhaps for himself. This wasn’t pejorative, just how things were. (Leonardo DiCaprio, at the height of his “Pussy Posse” fame, thanked Trump for offering “one-stop date-shopping.”)

Now, those stories seem to matter more, and so I spoke in recent days with two Trump pals, both reluctant to talk about the man they once partied hard with who’s now the Republican nominee to be president of the United States. In that capacity, Trump has vowed to sue people who have come forward in recent weeks with allegations about his bad behavior.

One of the two men I spoke with, a fashion photographer, requested anonymity because he has fathered several children since his Trump days and doesn’t want his past dredged up. “There’s no upside for me,” he says.

The other man… well, you’ll read his words. Both confirmed that Trump, as I’ve reported, used to host parties in suites at the Plaza Hotel when he owned it, where young women and girls were introduced to older, richer men. This is hardly aberrant behavior in the modeling business. Indeed, it is standard operating procedure.

But both men also put Donald Trump in the room with cocaine, very young women and underage girls, and rich, old men there to—pardon my language, but if the Times can say pussy on its front page, I can say this—fuck them.

I’m sorry, Ivanka, I really am, because your mother raised you well and I can’t blame you for supporting your father (even if he did give—at the least—his blessing when you were 15 and signed on as a model yourself with Elite, the hard-partying high-end agency founded by notorious teen-fucker John Casablancas) but here’s the sad truth: Your dad’s not a dog. He’s a pig.


The Daily Beast
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
November 02 2016 22:36 GMT
#117614
And also the extended history of Trump partying with people who did sleep with underage girls.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
November 02 2016 22:36 GMT
#117615
My how far we’ve come in less than eight years. We have seen happen what those of us in the climate and energy fields knew could happen. The US has become a world leader on climate change, dramatically increased our production of clean and renewable fuels, reduced our emissions of greenhouse gases, signed major international agreements to continue progress into the future, and have done so without cost increases or power disruptions that the denial community proclaimed would occur.

As we in the United States get ready to elect a new president, it is helpful to think about the impact a president can have. Particularly since we transitioned from the worst climate president ever (Bush) to the best (Obama). I am going to detail what I think are Obama’s signature accomplishments.

In my mind, the most important part of President Obama’s legacy on climate is that he changed the conversation. He showed that not only should the US play a role in reducing emissions, but we can do just that. He showed that this problem isn’t too big to solve. In fact, most of the solutions are subtle enough that we don’t even notice them. He showed that we can change our future for the better.

With respect to specific actions, the Clean Power Plan is one of his biggest accomplishments. By working with the EPA, he created the first ever carbon pollution standards for the largest source of pollution – power plants. He did this in the midst of a do-nothing congress that fought him every step of the way.

Under his presidency, we made huge investments in clean energy, which are paying off already. Jump starts to the wind and solar industry have led to enormous cost decreases – dirty energy isn’t cheaper anymore. It is really astonishing – wind power has tripled and solar power has increased by 30 times since he took office.

Under his presidency, we improved standards for fuel economy of our vehicles, which not only reduces pollution but also saves money. Furthermore, Obama set targets to reduce the federal government’s emissions by nearly 20% by 2025. He has worked to reduce other types of greenhouse gases such as methane and hydrofluorocarbons, not only within the US but through international agreements.

And those aren’t the only international efforts. Obama made a joint plan with China that is almost unbelievably ambitious. It will reduce our emissions by approximately 27% by 2025 and puts major limits on Chinese emissions as well. He also forged an agreement with India to help low-income countries transition to modern economies that are not as polluting as current developed nations.


Source
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
On_Slaught
Profile Joined August 2008
United States12190 Posts
November 02 2016 22:45 GMT
#117616
On November 03 2016 07:25 iPlaY.NettleS wrote:
Virginia poll that had clinton +12 in early October now show Trump +3.

http://news.hamptonu.edu/release/Hampton-University's-CPP-Latest-Poll-Shows-VA-Voter-Shift-from-Clinton-to-Trump-Post-Email-Investigation?a=1


Your cherry picking of polls is getting annoying. Nate Silver warned us about people like you.
jello_biafra
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
United Kingdom6635 Posts
November 02 2016 22:50 GMT
#117617
On November 03 2016 07:45 On_Slaught wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2016 07:25 iPlaY.NettleS wrote:
Virginia poll that had clinton +12 in early October now show Trump +3.

http://news.hamptonu.edu/release/Hampton-University's-CPP-Latest-Poll-Shows-VA-Voter-Shift-from-Clinton-to-Trump-Post-Email-Investigation?a=1


Your cherry picking of polls is getting annoying. Nate Silver warned us about people like you.

You mean Nate Carbon Atom?
The road to hell is paved with good intentions | aka Probert[PaiN] @ iccup / godlikeparagon @ twitch | my BW stream: http://www.teamliquid.net/video/streams/jello_biafra
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15686 Posts
November 02 2016 23:00 GMT
#117618
On November 03 2016 07:50 jello_biafra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2016 07:45 On_Slaught wrote:
On November 03 2016 07:25 iPlaY.NettleS wrote:
Virginia poll that had clinton +12 in early October now show Trump +3.

http://news.hamptonu.edu/release/Hampton-University's-CPP-Latest-Poll-Shows-VA-Voter-Shift-from-Clinton-to-Trump-Post-Email-Investigation?a=1


Your cherry picking of polls is getting annoying. Nate Silver warned us about people like you.

You mean Nate Carbon Atom?


yes yes, t_d memes, so funny!
Little-Chimp
Profile Joined February 2008
Canada948 Posts
November 02 2016 23:01 GMT
#117619
On November 03 2016 07:32 Doodsmack wrote:
Show nested quote +
I’ve been covering Trump since 1985, when I worked for The New York Times’ women’s pages. He endorsed one of my books, about real estate, and was a character in two more of them. He talked to me about sex and substances and the substance of the arena in which he made his name, real estate. I published all of it. In 1999, he told me that in 1995 he’d been worth about negative $900 million. I didn’t have the chops to think to ask for his tax returns.

I also wrote a book about the modeling industry and heard stories about Trump but didn’t write them because he wasn’t important in it, just another rich guy buying a date farm, perhaps for his friends, perhaps for himself. This wasn’t pejorative, just how things were. (Leonardo DiCaprio, at the height of his “Pussy Posse” fame, thanked Trump for offering “one-stop date-shopping.”)

Now, those stories seem to matter more, and so I spoke in recent days with two Trump pals, both reluctant to talk about the man they once partied hard with who’s now the Republican nominee to be president of the United States. In that capacity, Trump has vowed to sue people who have come forward in recent weeks with allegations about his bad behavior.

One of the two men I spoke with, a fashion photographer, requested anonymity because he has fathered several children since his Trump days and doesn’t want his past dredged up. “There’s no upside for me,” he says.

The other man… well, you’ll read his words. Both confirmed that Trump, as I’ve reported, used to host parties in suites at the Plaza Hotel when he owned it, where young women and girls were introduced to older, richer men. This is hardly aberrant behavior in the modeling business. Indeed, it is standard operating procedure.

But both men also put Donald Trump in the room with cocaine, very young women and underage girls, and rich, old men there to—pardon my language, but if the Times can say pussy on its front page, I can say this—fuck them.

I’m sorry, Ivanka, I really am, because your mother raised you well and I can’t blame you for supporting your father (even if he did give—at the least—his blessing when you were 15 and signed on as a model yourself with Elite, the hard-partying high-end agency founded by notorious teen-fucker John Casablancas) but here’s the sad truth: Your dad’s not a dog. He’s a pig.


The Daily Beast


ok. Where is the mention of brutal rape?

Also this source is wonky as fuck. If Breitbart or some shitter right wing BS website had some washed up old model (who talked highly of Trump in the article) and an anonymous source claiming Hillary touched little boys, would you automatically believe it? I wouldn't. I hate coming across as defending greasy Trump, but this whole culture of automatically convicting somebody you dislike of horrible things based on literal nothing sources is ridiculous.
Wegandi
Profile Joined March 2011
United States2455 Posts
November 02 2016 23:01 GMT
#117620
Well I mentioned this earlier and it reinforces my point - screw NIMBY's.

https://fee.org/articles/zoning-laws-are-erasing-the-american-dream/
Thank you bureaucrats for all your hard work, your commitment to public service and public good is essential to the lives of so many. Also, for Pete's sake can we please get some gun control already, no need for hand guns and assault rifles for the public
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