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Read the rules in the OP before posting, please.

In order to ensure that this thread continues to meet TL standards and follows the proper guidelines, we will be enforcing the rules in the OP more strictly. Be sure to give them a re-read to refresh your memory! The vast majority of you are contributing in a healthy way, keep it up!

NOTE: When providing a source, explain why you feel it is relevant and what purpose it adds to the discussion if it's not obvious.
Also take note that unsubstantiated tweets/posts meant only to rekindle old arguments can result in a mod action.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
November 03 2016 00:34 GMT
#117641
On November 03 2016 09:32 xDaunt wrote:
So apparently WashPo is about to run a story stating that Comey has known about the emails on Weiner's computer since early October and refused to reopen the investigation into Hillary until he got additional evidence.

Is anyone surprised? Should anyone reopen an investigation without new evidence in hand?
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
November 03 2016 00:40 GMT
#117642
or some field office director threatened to go public with the issue, you never know
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
zlefin
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
United States7689 Posts
November 03 2016 00:50 GMT
#117643
Flipping channels, seeing a bit of some Louisiana US senate candidates debate.
sad how stupid some of these guys are. (aka political)
They're asked questions on fixing social security and they spout some stuff that just isn't true; claiming they can fix social security entirely by getting more people into jobs and improving the economy. so many fundamentally unsound ideologically claims.
Great read: http://shorensteincenter.org/news-coverage-2016-general-election/ great book on democracy: http://press.princeton.edu/titles/10671.html zlefin is grumpier due to long term illness. Ignoring some users.
LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United States13779 Posts
November 03 2016 00:53 GMT
#117644
On November 03 2016 09:32 xDaunt wrote:
So apparently WashPo is about to run a story stating that Comey has known about the emails on Weiner's computer since early October and refused to reopen the investigation into Hillary until he got additional evidence.

Talk about adding fuel to the fire.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
GoTuNk!
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Chile4591 Posts
November 03 2016 00:56 GMT
#117645
On November 03 2016 06:37 KwarK wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2016 06:29 biology]major wrote:
On November 03 2016 06:27 plasmidghost wrote:
Just six more god-awful days until all is mess goes away... who am I kidding, regardless of who wins, their presidency will be attacked from the very start and it won't stop


exactly, politics has devolved into shit. I'll take a ban bet just because I need to lower the noise, this is quite distracting. Kwark !

I'd rather not ban you either. zeo, GGTemplar after the monkey fiasco and Nettles are the ones who I'd be willing to risk my own posting to remove.


I'll take a 2 week ban on permission to post trump memes (images and videos) if he wins, for a day
Buckyman
Profile Joined May 2014
1364 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-11-03 01:01:45
November 03 2016 01:00 GMT
#117646
On November 03 2016 08:30 ticklishmusic wrote:
not many people actually get heavily affected by the hike because of the subsidies


So the rate hike also means the federal government pays hundreds of billions more to prop up health insurance companies.

And it means people in the partial-subsidy income bracket get shafted.
And it means people with good (Gold) plans need to pay more or downgrade.
oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
November 03 2016 01:04 GMT
#117647
the subsidy is to prop up sick people.
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
November 03 2016 01:06 GMT
#117648
On November 03 2016 09:53 LegalLord wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2016 09:32 xDaunt wrote:
So apparently WashPo is about to run a story stating that Comey has known about the emails on Weiner's computer since early October and refused to reopen the investigation into Hillary until he got additional evidence.

Talk about adding fuel to the fire.

It isn't that much.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/senior-fbi-officials-were-told-of-new-emails-in-early-october-but-wanted-more-information-before-renewing-clinton-probe/2016/11/02/7884dede-a134-11e6-8832-23a007c77bb4_story.html?hpid=hp_hp-top-table-main_comeyfbi-810pm:homepage/story

He sent the letter to congress because they were going to seek a search warrant for the computer and he was worried about leaks. Mind you, there is zero chance of them turning up relevant information until after the election, so why they decided last week was the time to seek a warrant is sort of weird, but that is the excuse they are operating under.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
Doodsmack
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7224 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-11-03 01:11:37
November 03 2016 01:11 GMT
#117649
On November 03 2016 09:56 GoTuNk! wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2016 06:37 KwarK wrote:
On November 03 2016 06:29 biology]major wrote:
On November 03 2016 06:27 plasmidghost wrote:
Just six more god-awful days until all is mess goes away... who am I kidding, regardless of who wins, their presidency will be attacked from the very start and it won't stop


exactly, politics has devolved into shit. I'll take a ban bet just because I need to lower the noise, this is quite distracting. Kwark !

I'd rather not ban you either. zeo, GGTemplar after the monkey fiasco and Nettles are the ones who I'd be willing to risk my own posting to remove.


I'll take a 2 week ban on permission to post trump memes (images and videos) if he wins, for a day


Lol let's do a Clinton vs Trump total ban that allows images and videos by the victors for a week.

edit: or just not any bans but the victors can do images and videos.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
November 03 2016 01:11 GMT
#117650
On November 03 2016 10:04 oneofthem wrote:
the subsidy is to prop up sick people.

Or they could be uninsured, which is how it was pre-ACA. I look forward to the Republican solution where they remove the ACA and companies are able to deny insurance due to pre-existing conditions. Then my wife and I are trapped in MA forever.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
zlefin
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
United States7689 Posts
November 03 2016 01:18 GMT
#117651
stupid republicans; they should try to come up with an actual conservative plan.
I would if I had a clearer sense of what the conservative principles are and I was in congress, and I wouldn't even be a republican.
Great read: http://shorensteincenter.org/news-coverage-2016-general-election/ great book on democracy: http://press.princeton.edu/titles/10671.html zlefin is grumpier due to long term illness. Ignoring some users.
oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
November 03 2016 01:22 GMT
#117652
lol this particular group of republicans don't believe in government. they are randroids.

eisenhower would just say fuck it, va system for most people. problem solved.
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States44131 Posts
November 03 2016 01:38 GMT
#117653
On November 03 2016 09:56 GoTuNk! wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2016 06:37 KwarK wrote:
On November 03 2016 06:29 biology]major wrote:
On November 03 2016 06:27 plasmidghost wrote:
Just six more god-awful days until all is mess goes away... who am I kidding, regardless of who wins, their presidency will be attacked from the very start and it won't stop


exactly, politics has devolved into shit. I'll take a ban bet just because I need to lower the noise, this is quite distracting. Kwark !

I'd rather not ban you either. zeo, GGTemplar after the monkey fiasco and Nettles are the ones who I'd be willing to risk my own posting to remove.


I'll take a 2 week ban on permission to post trump memes (images and videos) if he wins, for a day

It's not in my power to offer you, I can offer you immunity from my own powers or to fall on my sword but I can't protect you from other mods.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-11-03 01:48:54
November 03 2016 01:48 GMT
#117654
License to shitpost is also just a really bad thing to bet over because unlike other bets which only affect the parties involved in the bet, you're negatively affecting the site experience for people who aren't participating in the bet.

If the winning side gets the right to shitpost in the thread, it just means this thread is fucked, regardless of who wins (kind of like America).
Moderator
Falling
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada11563 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-11-03 01:53:46
November 03 2016 01:53 GMT
#117655
Yeah, that sounds like a really sucky bet. The nice thing with the ban bets is regardless who wins, people that are rather sick of each other posting get a little bit of respite from each other (both the banned and the winner). Permission to meme wrecks the thread for all those that have not grown quite so sick of different posters that they would take on a bet.
ModeratorDavid Duke, Richard Spencer, Nick Fuentes, Daily Stormer... "Some very fine people on both sides"
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19367 Posts
November 03 2016 02:03 GMT
#117656
If Gary Johnson wins I'm replacing every post in this thread with a picture of Bisu.
ModeratorFormer Afreeca Starleague Caster: http://afreeca.tv/ASL2ENG2
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
November 03 2016 02:05 GMT
#117657
On November 03 2016 11:03 BisuDagger wrote:
If Gary Johnson wins I'm replacing every post in this thread with a picture of Bisu.

It would be for the best, really.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
Belisarius
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia6233 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-11-03 02:07:53
November 03 2016 02:07 GMT
#117658
You have to admit the issues with that bet are an amusing allegory of the issues with the US itself.

Also if he does get to post trump memes then Trump has actually won, in which case you have bigger problems.
hunts
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2113 Posts
November 03 2016 02:13 GMT
#117659
On November 03 2016 07:28 Little-Chimp wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2016 07:22 Plansix wrote:
They burned down a Black church is Mississippi and put vote Trump on it. Can't blame them for being scared.

On November 03 2016 07:21 zeo wrote:
How can you even receive death threats while anonymous? What a train wreck for the democrats


You send them to the publicly listed law firm that filed the case?


Do you really think Trump is a full on rapist who ties girls down 13 year old girls, rapes them and threatens their families? That's what she accused him of. I think there's a reason the media barely touched this one.

He would make a complete shit president but you actually demonize him that much? At some point you need to be a little more objective.


Yes I do. I honestly would not expect anything less from him.
twitch.tv/huntstv 7x legend streamer
pmh
Profile Joined March 2016
1416 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-11-03 02:26:33
November 03 2016 02:22 GMT
#117660
On November 03 2016 09:34 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2016 09:32 xDaunt wrote:
So apparently WashPo is about to run a story stating that Comey has known about the emails on Weiner's computer since early October and refused to reopen the investigation into Hillary until he got additional evidence.

Is anyone surprised? Should anyone reopen an investigation without new evidence in hand?



Well it is odd to say the least, as the emails itself are the evidence. What additional evidence could he possibly have gotten regarding those emails that made him write the letter? I asume he could not read them because he did not have a warrant and the investigation was closed.


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