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ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
November 02 2016 15:38 GMT
#117401
On November 03 2016 00:30 IgnE wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2016 11:33 oneofthem wrote:
one of the more serious negative reports on hrc from my perspective is from sarah chayes who worked under general mccrystal in afghanistan. she thought hrc was slow to act on corrosive corruption in the afghan govt and it undermined the mission. overly militarized approach and too much deference to the generals.

but then again, admiral mullen was vetted as vp and hrc has a better understanding of how critical the international fight against corruption is for literally everything. this stuff is something the left could do real work on, a genuine 99.9% vs 0.1% issue.

lol thx to wikileaks u can see she understands the issue now and mullen has a respected input

https://wikileaks.org/clinton-emails/emailid/19058


you really are the younger, male version of hillary. now we just need to find the email where she confesses to huma that she has a crush on bloomberg and wants to rule the world with him at her side


id take that as a compliment. better than a younger version of trump, god forbid a female one.
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States43561 Posts
November 02 2016 15:38 GMT
#117402
On November 03 2016 00:37 Sermokala wrote:
I don't think it should be that surprised that Russia curated the email leaks as apart of the deal with wikileaks. That they'd inform their news service of the schedule shouldn't be surprised.

pretty sure its been covered that RT is just another Russian intelligence agency.

Pretty sure you just triggered zeo.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States14103 Posts
November 02 2016 15:39 GMT
#117403
Hey someones got to make sure he gets paid.
A wise man will say that he knows nothing. We're gona party like its 2752 Hail Dark Brandon
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States43561 Posts
November 02 2016 15:40 GMT
#117404
On November 03 2016 00:39 Sermokala wrote:
Hey someones got to make sure he gets paid.

And that someone works in the HR department at the Kremlin.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
November 02 2016 15:40 GMT
#117405
That email does not show collusion at all. All of that is public information. FOIA requests are public. Who is testifying before congress is public.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
Buckyman
Profile Joined May 2014
1364 Posts
November 02 2016 15:41 GMT
#117406
According to a current New York Times article*, the FBI didn't find any meaningful link between Trump and Russia and concluded that the objective for releasing hacked emails was likely to disrupt the election in general, rather than to support Trump specifically.


*by Lichtblau and Myers; I can't link because the NYT web presence doesn't like me.
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15736 Posts
November 02 2016 15:47 GMT
#117407
On November 03 2016 00:40 Plansix wrote:
That email does not show collusion at all. All of that is public information. FOIA requests are public. Who is testifying before congress is public.


That announcement's only intention was to trigger thoughts like xDaunt's upon reading the headline.
oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-11-02 15:51:16
November 02 2016 15:50 GMT
#117408
meaningful link and criminal ties.

did they find links and ties?

we know they are there. but prejudging the evidence is not up to individual agents.
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
IgnE
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7681 Posts
November 02 2016 15:57 GMT
#117409
On November 03 2016 00:37 oneofthem wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2016 00:30 IgnE wrote:
On November 02 2016 11:33 oneofthem wrote:
one of the more serious negative reports on hrc from my perspective is from sarah chayes who worked under general mccrystal in afghanistan. she thought hrc was slow to act on corrosive corruption in the afghan govt and it undermined the mission. overly militarized approach and too much deference to the generals.

but then again, admiral mullen was vetted as vp and hrc has a better understanding of how critical the international fight against corruption is for literally everything. this stuff is something the left could do real work on, a genuine 99.9% vs 0.1% issue.

lol thx to wikileaks u can see she understands the issue now and mullen has a respected input

https://wikileaks.org/clinton-emails/emailid/19058


you really are the younger, male version of hillary. now we just need to find the email where she confesses to huma that she has a crush on bloomberg and wants to rule the world with him at her side

hm? not really.

what is your alternative tho?


my alternative spirit animal or my alternative at the ballot box? the ballot box is black this year, as usual. no choice given. but it still provides the illusion to so many that this is a democratic country so i suppose there's that.
The unrealistic sound of these propositions is indicative, not of their utopian character, but of the strength of the forces which prevent their realization.
zeo
Profile Joined October 2009
Serbia6336 Posts
November 02 2016 15:59 GMT
#117410
On November 03 2016 00:38 KwarK wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2016 00:37 Sermokala wrote:
I don't think it should be that surprised that Russia curated the email leaks as apart of the deal with wikileaks. That they'd inform their news service of the schedule shouldn't be surprised.

pretty sure its been covered that RT is just another Russian intelligence agency.

Pretty sure you just triggered zeo.

I'm not sure what you are trying to achieve with this low quality bait. It just comes off as sad and desperate.
"No amount of evidence will ever persuade an idiot." - Mark Twain
oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
November 02 2016 16:00 GMT
#117411
On November 03 2016 00:57 IgnE wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2016 00:37 oneofthem wrote:
On November 03 2016 00:30 IgnE wrote:
On November 02 2016 11:33 oneofthem wrote:
one of the more serious negative reports on hrc from my perspective is from sarah chayes who worked under general mccrystal in afghanistan. she thought hrc was slow to act on corrosive corruption in the afghan govt and it undermined the mission. overly militarized approach and too much deference to the generals.

but then again, admiral mullen was vetted as vp and hrc has a better understanding of how critical the international fight against corruption is for literally everything. this stuff is something the left could do real work on, a genuine 99.9% vs 0.1% issue.

lol thx to wikileaks u can see she understands the issue now and mullen has a respected input

https://wikileaks.org/clinton-emails/emailid/19058


you really are the younger, male version of hillary. now we just need to find the email where she confesses to huma that she has a crush on bloomberg and wants to rule the world with him at her side

hm? not really.

what is your alternative tho?


my alternative spirit animal or my alternative at the ballot box? the ballot box is black this year, as usual. no choice given. but it still provides the illusion to so many that this is a democratic country so i suppose there's that.

no, i mean your alternative policy ideas for going forward
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States43561 Posts
November 02 2016 16:01 GMT
#117412
On November 03 2016 00:59 zeo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2016 00:38 KwarK wrote:
On November 03 2016 00:37 Sermokala wrote:
I don't think it should be that surprised that Russia curated the email leaks as apart of the deal with wikileaks. That they'd inform their news service of the schedule shouldn't be surprised.

pretty sure its been covered that RT is just another Russian intelligence agency.

Pretty sure you just triggered zeo.

I'm not sure what you are trying to achieve with this low quality bait. It just comes off as sad and desperate.

Right on time.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
November 02 2016 16:27 GMT
#117413
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
IgnE
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7681 Posts
November 02 2016 16:31 GMT
#117414
On November 03 2016 01:00 oneofthem wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2016 00:57 IgnE wrote:
On November 03 2016 00:37 oneofthem wrote:
On November 03 2016 00:30 IgnE wrote:
On November 02 2016 11:33 oneofthem wrote:
one of the more serious negative reports on hrc from my perspective is from sarah chayes who worked under general mccrystal in afghanistan. she thought hrc was slow to act on corrosive corruption in the afghan govt and it undermined the mission. overly militarized approach and too much deference to the generals.

but then again, admiral mullen was vetted as vp and hrc has a better understanding of how critical the international fight against corruption is for literally everything. this stuff is something the left could do real work on, a genuine 99.9% vs 0.1% issue.

lol thx to wikileaks u can see she understands the issue now and mullen has a respected input

https://wikileaks.org/clinton-emails/emailid/19058


you really are the younger, male version of hillary. now we just need to find the email where she confesses to huma that she has a crush on bloomberg and wants to rule the world with him at her side

hm? not really.

what is your alternative tho?


my alternative spirit animal or my alternative at the ballot box? the ballot box is black this year, as usual. no choice given. but it still provides the illusion to so many that this is a democratic country so i suppose there's that.

no, i mean your alternative policy ideas for going forward


lets start with a debt jubilee and go from there

and guys this election is over. hillary is our next president. this polling drama is silly.
The unrealistic sound of these propositions is indicative, not of their utopian character, but of the strength of the forces which prevent their realization.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
November 02 2016 16:34 GMT
#117415
But you don’t understand. If the news networks keep publishing polls showing the race tightening, it keeps people on the edge of their seat. Even though millions of votes have been cast already.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States43561 Posts
November 02 2016 16:44 GMT
#117416
At the very least it should motivate the people passively opposed to Trump to make their voices heard.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
On_Slaught
Profile Joined August 2008
United States12190 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-11-02 16:47:08
November 02 2016 16:46 GMT
#117417
On November 03 2016 01:44 KwarK wrote:
At the very least it should motivate the people passively opposed to Trump to make their voices heard.


This. Plus those state polls today still show her winning what she needs. A close win is still a win. Though it only embolden s the rigged claims sadly.
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States43561 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-11-02 16:49:13
November 02 2016 16:49 GMT
#117418
On November 03 2016 01:46 On_Slaught wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2016 01:44 KwarK wrote:
At the very least it should motivate the people passively opposed to Trump to make their voices heard.


This. Plus those state polls today still show her winning what she needs. A close win is still a win. Though it only emboldens embiggens the rigged claims sadly.

ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
November 02 2016 16:53 GMT
#117419
On November 03 2016 01:31 IgnE wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2016 01:00 oneofthem wrote:
On November 03 2016 00:57 IgnE wrote:
On November 03 2016 00:37 oneofthem wrote:
On November 03 2016 00:30 IgnE wrote:
On November 02 2016 11:33 oneofthem wrote:
one of the more serious negative reports on hrc from my perspective is from sarah chayes who worked under general mccrystal in afghanistan. she thought hrc was slow to act on corrosive corruption in the afghan govt and it undermined the mission. overly militarized approach and too much deference to the generals.

but then again, admiral mullen was vetted as vp and hrc has a better understanding of how critical the international fight against corruption is for literally everything. this stuff is something the left could do real work on, a genuine 99.9% vs 0.1% issue.

lol thx to wikileaks u can see she understands the issue now and mullen has a respected input

https://wikileaks.org/clinton-emails/emailid/19058


you really are the younger, male version of hillary. now we just need to find the email where she confesses to huma that she has a crush on bloomberg and wants to rule the world with him at her side

hm? not really.

what is your alternative tho?


my alternative spirit animal or my alternative at the ballot box? the ballot box is black this year, as usual. no choice given. but it still provides the illusion to so many that this is a democratic country so i suppose there's that.

no, i mean your alternative policy ideas for going forward


lets start with a debt jubilee and go from there

and guys this election is over. hillary is our next president. this polling drama is silly.

that is a good idea for a lot of people.
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
IgnE
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7681 Posts
November 02 2016 17:03 GMT
#117420
On November 03 2016 01:53 oneofthem wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2016 01:31 IgnE wrote:
On November 03 2016 01:00 oneofthem wrote:
On November 03 2016 00:57 IgnE wrote:
On November 03 2016 00:37 oneofthem wrote:
On November 03 2016 00:30 IgnE wrote:
On November 02 2016 11:33 oneofthem wrote:
one of the more serious negative reports on hrc from my perspective is from sarah chayes who worked under general mccrystal in afghanistan. she thought hrc was slow to act on corrosive corruption in the afghan govt and it undermined the mission. overly militarized approach and too much deference to the generals.

but then again, admiral mullen was vetted as vp and hrc has a better understanding of how critical the international fight against corruption is for literally everything. this stuff is something the left could do real work on, a genuine 99.9% vs 0.1% issue.

lol thx to wikileaks u can see she understands the issue now and mullen has a respected input

https://wikileaks.org/clinton-emails/emailid/19058


you really are the younger, male version of hillary. now we just need to find the email where she confesses to huma that she has a crush on bloomberg and wants to rule the world with him at her side

hm? not really.

what is your alternative tho?


my alternative spirit animal or my alternative at the ballot box? the ballot box is black this year, as usual. no choice given. but it still provides the illusion to so many that this is a democratic country so i suppose there's that.

no, i mean your alternative policy ideas for going forward


lets start with a debt jubilee and go from there

and guys this election is over. hillary is our next president. this polling drama is silly.

that is a good idea for a lot of people.


do you think inequality after hillary's 2017-2021 term will be greater or less than than it is now?
The unrealistic sound of these propositions is indicative, not of their utopian character, but of the strength of the forces which prevent their realization.
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