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GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States23221 Posts
October 16 2016 22:19 GMT
#112201
On October 17 2016 07:16 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:


Trump has completely drown out Rush Limbaugh. Win or lose he's going to be a thorn in Republican's side for a while.
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
October 16 2016 22:24 GMT
#112202
I don't think Trump understands why he would need republicans in the House if he wins
ImFromPortugal
Profile Joined April 2010
Portugal1368 Posts
October 16 2016 22:26 GMT
#112203
One question, what will you guys do if Trump wins the elections ?
Yes im
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands21668 Posts
October 16 2016 22:27 GMT
#112204
On October 17 2016 07:24 Nevuk wrote:
I don't think Trump understands why he would need republicans in the House if he wins

The rational part of me thinks that he knows. But he also knows he won't win and he is just trying to do damage where he can.

He strikes me as the kind of man who would seek to drag others down with him (if he thinks they are part of the reason he loses).

But rational and Trump doesn't seem to match so who knows what he is thinking.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Randomaccount#77123
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States5003 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-10-16 22:30:46
October 16 2016 22:28 GMT
#112205
--- Nuked ---
Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28665 Posts
October 16 2016 22:30 GMT
#112206
On October 17 2016 07:26 ImFromPortugal wrote:
One question, what will you guys do if Trump wins the elections ?


change my facebook profile picture to professor farnsworth going 'I don't wanna live on this planet anymore'.
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mahrgell
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Germany3943 Posts
October 16 2016 22:31 GMT
#112207
I'm sure you could ask for asylum in Europe, as politcally prosecuted victims, as you would all been put in jail then if you dare to say anything against the Supreme Leader.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
October 16 2016 22:32 GMT
#112208
I'm white, straight and middle class, so I have little to fear from Trump. But a couple friends I know would move back to Bangladesh and I'm sure it would suck for anyone who isn't white and straight.

So in short, delete all social media and wait 4 year until we vote him out off office.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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KOFgokuon
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States14893 Posts
October 16 2016 22:40 GMT
#112209
or, you konw, cut out his legs by voting in democrats during the mid terms
farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18826 Posts
October 16 2016 22:41 GMT
#112210
On October 17 2016 07:40 KOFgokuon wrote:
or, you konw, cut out his legs by voting in democrats during the mid terms

Given current circumstances, this election's downticket votes might already do much of the job.
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
October 16 2016 22:44 GMT
#112211
On October 17 2016 07:40 KOFgokuon wrote:
or, you konw, cut out his legs by voting in democrats during the mid terms

Democrats don't win mid term elections.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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zlefin
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
United States7689 Posts
October 16 2016 23:03 GMT
#112212
On October 17 2016 07:26 ImFromPortugal wrote:
One question, what will you guys do if Trump wins the elections ?

complain on the internet.
Great read: http://shorensteincenter.org/news-coverage-2016-general-election/ great book on democracy: http://press.princeton.edu/titles/10671.html zlefin is grumpier due to long term illness. Ignoring some users.
zlefin
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
United States7689 Posts
October 16 2016 23:06 GMT
#112213
On October 17 2016 07:08 Nakajin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 17 2016 06:59 LemOn wrote:
So the odds now with bookies
Trump 5
Hillary 1/6

Obviously Hillary is a favourite but nowhere near the lock they are making it out to be... Are interest groups rigging the election through capital again?

It happened in the UK where large companies and City pumped out bets remain to influence the vote


Am I the only one felling super disgusted at the idea of betting on an election? I don't want to be mean to anyone but I can't understand how someone can do it and still have an ounce of respect for democracy.

(Ok that was a little mean, sorry)

here's some reasons:
gambling addiction.
They think it provides more meaningful information than polling.
They're only betting on other country's stuff.
as a hedge against risk.
they're otherwise horrible people who care about democracy (i.e. they'd have no problem betting on life/death matters)
Great read: http://shorensteincenter.org/news-coverage-2016-general-election/ great book on democracy: http://press.princeton.edu/titles/10671.html zlefin is grumpier due to long term illness. Ignoring some users.
kwizach
Profile Joined June 2011
3658 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-10-17 00:14:21
October 16 2016 23:16 GMT
#112214
On October 17 2016 08:06 zlefin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 17 2016 07:08 Nakajin wrote:
On October 17 2016 06:59 LemOn wrote:
So the odds now with bookies
Trump 5
Hillary 1/6

Obviously Hillary is a favourite but nowhere near the lock they are making it out to be... Are interest groups rigging the election through capital again?

It happened in the UK where large companies and City pumped out bets remain to influence the vote


Am I the only one felling super disgusted at the idea of betting on an election? I don't want to be mean to anyone but I can't understand how someone can do it and still have an ounce of respect for democracy.

(Ok that was a little mean, sorry)

here's some reasons:
gambling addiction.
They think it provides more meaningful information than polling.
They're only betting on other country's stuff.
as a hedge against risk.
they're otherwise horrible people who care about democracy (i.e. they'd have no problem betting on life/death matters)

...or you know, because they think it's fun to bet/they're convinced they will win?
"Oedipus ruined a great sex life by asking too many questions." -- Stephen Colbert
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
October 16 2016 23:20 GMT
#112215
On October 17 2016 08:16 kwizach wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 17 2016 08:06 zlefin wrote:
On October 17 2016 07:08 Nakajin wrote:
On October 17 2016 06:59 LemOn wrote:
So the odds now with bookies
Trump 5
Hillary 1/6

Obviously Hillary is a favourite but nowhere near the lock they are making it out to be... Are interest groups rigging the election through capital again?

It happened in the UK where large companies and City pumped out bets remain to influence the vote


Am I the only one felling super disgusted at the idea of betting on an election? I don't want to be mean to anyone but I can't understand how someone can do it and still have an ounce of respect for democracy.

(Ok that was a little mean, sorry)

here's some reasons:
gambling addiction.
They think it provides more meaningful information than polling.
They're only betting on other country's stuff.
as a hedge against risk.
they're otherwise horrible people who care about democracy (i.e. they'd have no problem betting on life/death matters)

...or you know, because they think it's fun to bet/convinced they will win?


this is me. i made a few bucks from the primaries, which i in turn donated to the clinton campaign.
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
TheTenthDoc
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9561 Posts
October 16 2016 23:22 GMT
#112216
On October 17 2016 06:59 LemOn wrote:
So the odds now with bookies
Trump 5
Hillary 1/6

Obviously Hillary is a favourite but nowhere near the lock they are making it out to be... Are interest groups rigging the election through capital again?

It happened in the UK where large companies and City pumped out bets remain to influence the vote


The most conservative statistical model out there that I'm aware of (538 polls-plus) gives Trump worse odds than 5-1. It's pretty unlikely the interest groups are rigging the odds through capital.
iPlaY.NettleS
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Australia4329 Posts
October 16 2016 23:54 GMT
#112217
On October 17 2016 08:22 TheTenthDoc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 17 2016 06:59 LemOn wrote:
So the odds now with bookies
Trump 5
Hillary 1/6

Obviously Hillary is a favourite but nowhere near the lock they are making it out to be... Are interest groups rigging the election through capital again?

It happened in the UK where large companies and City pumped out bets remain to influence the vote


The most conservative statistical model out there that I'm aware of (538 polls-plus) gives Trump worse odds than 5-1. It's pretty unlikely the interest groups are rigging the odds through capital.

And the final poll before the brexit vote had remain up by 10 points.It was also the largest sample size of all polls.Explain that?

Keep trusting those phony polls, plenty here going to get a huge shock come election day.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7PvoI6gvQs
Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
October 16 2016 23:54 GMT
#112218
On October 17 2016 08:54 iPlaY.NettleS wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 17 2016 08:22 TheTenthDoc wrote:
On October 17 2016 06:59 LemOn wrote:
So the odds now with bookies
Trump 5
Hillary 1/6

Obviously Hillary is a favourite but nowhere near the lock they are making it out to be... Are interest groups rigging the election through capital again?

It happened in the UK where large companies and City pumped out bets remain to influence the vote


The most conservative statistical model out there that I'm aware of (538 polls-plus) gives Trump worse odds than 5-1. It's pretty unlikely the interest groups are rigging the odds through capital.

And the final poll before the brexit vote had remain up by 10 points.It was also the largest sample size of all polls.Explain that?

Keep trusting those phony polls, plenty here going to get a huge shock come election day.

I'll have a hearty laugh if the polls are wildly overestimating Trump's support rather than Clinton's
Adreme
Profile Joined June 2011
United States5574 Posts
October 16 2016 23:57 GMT
#112219
On October 17 2016 08:54 iPlaY.NettleS wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 17 2016 08:22 TheTenthDoc wrote:
On October 17 2016 06:59 LemOn wrote:
So the odds now with bookies
Trump 5
Hillary 1/6

Obviously Hillary is a favourite but nowhere near the lock they are making it out to be... Are interest groups rigging the election through capital again?

It happened in the UK where large companies and City pumped out bets remain to influence the vote


The most conservative statistical model out there that I'm aware of (538 polls-plus) gives Trump worse odds than 5-1. It's pretty unlikely the interest groups are rigging the odds through capital.

And the final poll before the brexit vote had remain up by 10 points.It was also the largest sample size of all polls.Explain that?

Keep trusting those phony polls, plenty here going to get a huge shock come election day.


People said the exact same thing in 2012 and in 2008. Doubting the validity of the pollsters is a common tactic among the losing side but the facts are what they are. The polls turn out to be right especially with how long and how often they have been doing them they end up being far more accurate than polls around even other issues.
iPlaY.NettleS
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Australia4329 Posts
October 16 2016 23:58 GMT
#112220
On October 17 2016 07:26 ImFromPortugal wrote:
One question, what will you guys do if Trump wins the elections ?

I'm looking forward to collecting my $20 bet from kwizach.Buy a few beers, some popcorn and watch liberals heads impode online and on television.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7PvoI6gvQs
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